What would you do to make this MK game better? Now discussing MK Trilogy
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posted12/06/2006 10:30 PM (UTC)by
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Iori9
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10/05/2005 12:37 AM (UTC)
I am hearing people saying MK4 sucked balls (even though I loved it)
name some things you would do to make MK4 a better game.
I would:

-Make separate combos for each character, but at the same time keep the simple combo system (for newbies)

-put unlockable characters and stages in the game (make replay better)

-put gameplay elements from newer MK games in it (Krypt and maybe mini games)

EDIT- YAY my first DP w00t
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Shinnok-fan64
11/24/2006 07:36 PM (UTC)
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better graphics, and less fast gameplay
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dragonking1
11/24/2006 11:56 PM (UTC)
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how is mkg faster then mk4 its the same but with diff characters
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Ninja_Mime
11/25/2006 12:34 AM (UTC)
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Unique combos, an unplayable boss, with unique moves, better character design.
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dreemernj
11/25/2006 01:38 AM (UTC)
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I see a lot of people have said Unique Combos, so stick another check next to that suggestion.

Take out Maximum Damage and instead balance out the game. Better damage protection, better move disabling, maybe even make the hitboxes a little more sensible. The 2D MKs didn't have great hitboxes (1 coldbox per frame) but they worked, these don't.
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11/28/2006 03:41 AM (UTC)
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Better graphics and endings (cept scorp and subby's they were awsome [take that Quan Chi!!])
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Iori9
11/28/2006 03:46 AM (UTC)
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I got another one

-more alitys (from brutal to animal)
EDIT- OK I got an even better thread, what you could do to improve the
topics MK game, Now its MK1.
-Make the fighting styles actualy unique and not this HP LP crap.
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11/28/2006 03:56 AM (UTC)
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I don't know much about this kinda thing from a technical standpoint, but there's GOT to be a way to get things to darken during the Fatalities. (The new games simply remove most of the background and replace it with black, but I suspect there could be another way to achieve this.)
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Ninja_Mime
11/29/2006 12:59 AM (UTC)
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MK1 could have used a bit more colors. That's about it. I do hate the gameplay, but I'll wait until MK2 to talk about how bad it is.
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11/29/2006 02:49 AM (UTC)
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Mk2 is not that bad.
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LadyRaiden
11/29/2006 03:43 AM (UTC)
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That would depend on what you mean by 'improved?' Do you mean using the same techology they had when it came out or remake the game with new techology?

If you want to keep the original look and feel, then just clean up the game a little and smooth it out. For the time it was a great game just it never seemed finished in my opinion.

If you plan to completely remake it with new techology, then I would recommend keeping the 2D. Use the CGI stuff for background and special effects only but use live actors again for the main characters. With current graphics capabilites they should be able to get more 'clips' so as to get smoother, cleaner motion. A few minor changes to the costumes couldn't hurt either. The Raiden, Liu Kang, Johnny Cage, Shang Tsung and even Kano costumes still look ok but give the ninjas their own outfits and something different for Sonya. Goro should be the only GCI made character.
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11/29/2006 03:58 AM (UTC)
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Yeah your right.Cgi for regular people sucks.Only for big boses
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Ninja_Mime
11/29/2006 11:45 PM (UTC)
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Thedogpound Wrote:
Mk2 is not that bad.


No. It was terrible, in the aspect of fighting games. The characters looked cool, and the story was pretty good, but the game itself, no.
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11/30/2006 02:19 AM (UTC)
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To me it was the best 2d mortal kombat fighting game
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11/30/2006 04:44 AM (UTC)
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Only one thing i truly want. Reptile as a playable character! tongue
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11/30/2006 10:30 AM (UTC)
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I'd add extra animation frames to MK1 so it looks less "Jerky" and decrease the likelihood of finding Reptile, also would change his lifebar to SAY Reptile.
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genesim
12/01/2006 02:23 PM (UTC)
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This galls me. We haven't had one decent translation of the game and already people want to change it.

MK1 should not be messed with, that is unless we finally get an arcade perfect version of the game on ANY console.

As for some kind of special edition. Pack it with extras.

The only improvement I see being needed is increased resolution/color tweaking.

But changing ninjas or outfits makes want to scream BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Even the "jerky" frame rate is what makes the game so much fun. The gameplay of the first is plain awesome and the whole balance is like a paper/rock/scissors kind of thing.

Incidently same goes for sound. Would you really want to change to voice limitations as well? That to me is signature!

Now for the next generation that is different.

A new Mortal Kombat would be to have all the old back grounds up to Trilogy redone in 3D. The living forrest was an exception. What a screw up on Deception! I thought the damn thing was supposed to be LIVING!!
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JediTommy8
12/02/2006 10:47 PM (UTC)
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The only things i would want MK1 to have is better graphics,and having Reptile playable.
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Shinnok-fan64
12/02/2006 11:15 PM (UTC)
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for MK1 what i would do to make it better...
-make it more colotful
-reptlie be playable character

pretty much it.
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Iori9
12/03/2006 05:23 AM (UTC)
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OK, MKT time. (I go in a randomish order)

-take away infinites
-actually make the aggressor bar useful against bosses
-make it for the PSP and DS (these hand helds get more sales with 2d games)
-Do everything in my thread I made about this in the handheld forum called "MKT for the DS" or something like that.
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Ninja_Mime
12/03/2006 05:40 AM (UTC)
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MKT

1. Bigger sprites.
2. Cage Torso Rip instead of Exploding Backbreaker... what the hell?
3. More random arcade ladders. Way too many ninajs.
4. Toned down Rain, Jade, Noob, and bosses.
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dreemernj
12/03/2006 06:21 AM (UTC)
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If anything Jade needs to be enhanced to match everybody else. She's not a very powerful fighter.

The others though definately need to be toned down. I say get rid of the bosses all together. Trying to get them in there was a valid struggle, but in order to balance them they'd have to be pretty heavily limited and they would end up like Thanos in MvC2. It's sad to see that happen to a boss that used to be powerful.

Noob needs to lose the disabler. Its basically a break-the-game-gun. It has no startup, it very fast moving, and the effects of it are just too overboard. I think the Noob from UMK3 with no special moves but vey fast walking speed and Kano's combos was great. Maybe include a unique teleport, although not one that leaves quite as big an opening for comboing as the one he has in MKT.

Rain needs his roundhouse to be a special move, or make it cause damage protection and include a hit limit on its usage.

Characters should all do MK3 level damage. Cage, Baraka, Mk2 Jax, and MK2 Kung Lao all do MK2 level damage which is unnecessary.

Slow down some of MK2 Kung Lao's moves. His roundhouse and sweep get pretty crazy. On an unsuspecting person you can sweep into popup autocombo and that just shouldn't be happening. Combine that with the MK2 level damage and you end up with a character that can do a lot of damage to someone even if they block.

Kung Lao's spin should not move.

Baraka's spin should not move. And it would be still useful even if it did less than the insane damage it does now.

Fix characters hitting the ground to remove relaunch infinites.

Kabal's spin should activate damage protection. Perhaps even add some startup time.

This list could just keep going. And this is talking about greatest hits MKT for PSX. If discussing the N64 version, you're going to have to make a list twice as long :-/
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Iori9
12/03/2006 08:23 AM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
MKT
2. Cage Torso Rip instead of Exploding Backbreaker... what the hell?
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LOL I know dude, I was the same way when I seen it, they should just add the torso rip and keep it instead though
I got another one anyway

-Make the fatalitys similiar to MK2
-make the ninjas have diffrent stances (kinda like MK mugen)
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Shinnok-fan64
12/03/2006 03:02 PM (UTC)
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for MKT i'd change....
-no infinites


MKT's my fav mk gme, so there wouldn't be too much negativity to be said on my part about the game.
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JediTommy8
12/03/2006 03:52 PM (UTC)
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For MKT i would change it so:

Cage could do BallBreaker.

MK1+MK2+Bosses would have fatalities,friendships,animalities,etc.

Less Infinites

Noob,Rain, toned down
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