I think you are mixing the movie's storyline, and the game's storyline. They aren't the same, and have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.

No I am not, I know the storyline but not like the back of my hand. In MK1 when you defeat Tsung he went spastic then fell to the ground - which didn't instigate if he died or defeated until his return in MKII. Now when Kahn was beat, he turned to stone and blew up then in MK3 he was good as new or just the same as before with no explanation. If I was a company like midway I would think out these things especially with the popular success of MK and the expectations of MKII I would think before hand if I were to do another sequel... "hmm would it be a good idea to have Kahn blow up at the end?" "yeah it would look cool" it's a little thing but it just showed inconsistency within the story which suffered from that. And some of the explanations for character's returns were weak too (examples - Scorpion and Johnny Cage). Enough of my rambling, when did you people think MK jumped the shark?

I don't think it actually meant that Kahn became stone and exploded. It was explained and believed that no one actually defeated Kahn in MK2, but that the tournament was really a diversion to resurrect Sindel and open a gate to Earth. So by that logic, someone might have faced Kahn, but either no battle took place or he was simply not defeated, since the gate to Earth was opened before he could be killed. The stone thing was probably just for effect or to show what might have happened to Kahn if he was defeated in Outworld.

The MK storyline hasn't "jumped the shark" in a sense that it hit a point that it went downhill with no chance of survival, because MK: DA's storyline is more of an upward climb compared of past games. But I would say that MK4's storyline is the least worthy of all the games. Characters were brought in that were without a good background or personality, and characters such as Shinnok were weakened to the point of unbearable. Such as Scorpion believing that Sub-Zero killed his family when it was made clear in MK2 that Scorpion knew that the younger Sub-Zero was not the one that killed him or his family.

how was it a planned diversion if it is shown in the beginning of MK2 that Shang Tsungsuggested a plan to Kahn? if you know what i mean. The more I re-discover MK3's plot the more I dislike it besides Kahn overtaking Earth. The whole Sindel thing was bad.

Endings are 'what if' scenarios. What would you propose Midway do when you beat a boss? Make the boss say something like "Oh no, I am defeated." And run and hide? The bosses have to die, or at least look dead when you beat them, it wouldn't make sense any other way.

And about your references to MK reminding you of movies; thats shallow thinking in my opinion. You could trace back farther than you can imagine things that remind you of other things. Every idea has been used once, in some way at least. I don't see how MK4 reminded you at all of things like you mentioned, perhaps you heard the word 'amulet' and immediately turned your head to it.

Scorpion has had a purpose to return each time he has, and Cage is just in the game because he's a good filler, and its safer than trying to add some dumb new character no one will like (see: most of the MK4 new characters).

It's suggested that the plan to resurrect Sindel was the plan that Tsung suggested to Kahn, and that the plan was created 10,000 years ago when Sindel died. By luring the Earth warriors, especially Raiden, to Outworld, Earth had no defense, since Raiden is supposed to protect Earth, and he was in Outworld. Also, resurrecting Sindel on Earth instead of Outworld would allow Kahn to enter Earth, since it's his privelage to reclaim his queen. In a sense he diverted Earth's forces to have Sindel reborn on Earth, which would open the gate to allow him to enter Earth and take over.

"Endings are 'what if' scenarios. What would you propose Midway do when you beat a boss? Make the boss say something like "Oh no, I am defeated." And run and hide? The bosses have to die, or at least look dead when you beat them, it wouldn't make sense any other way."

WTF do you mean it wouldn't make sense? Shang Tsung fell down after a fit and you didn't know if he was dead or not...why do they have to die or explode exactly? Does it make you feel more sure of yourself that you killed Kahn and can sleep at night and earth is saved? No. Same thing could of happen to Kahn but midway opted to go for razzle dazzle *at the time (which isn't bad just not needed and confuses things when it comes to the story).

"And about your references to MK reminding you of movies; thats shallow thinking in my opinion. You could trace back farther than you can imagine things that remind you of other things."

I could but I don't read books or any of that stuff.

"Every idea has been used once, in some way at least. I don't see how MK4 reminded you at all of things like you mentioned, perhaps you heard the word 'amulet' and immediately turned your head to it.

Scorpion has had a purpose to return each time he has, and Cage is just in the game because he's a good filler, and its safer than trying to add some dumb new character no one will like (see: most of the MK4 new characters)."

Man I can't even believe you're defending Cage's death comeback. And MK4 characters were lame because no one was thinking about them properly, they were all focusing on the 3D aspect of the game that the game lost storyline substance from that. Jarek was horribly unoriginal and Tanya was baad, MK4 was ughghghgh...think happy thoughts.

But you can't really say MK had that cool original story it onced did now though you can probably say cool but that's where it ends. Look at the original MK's storyline it was classic as with MKII's then MK3 was wtf is this? but not at first though it slowly grew on you.

Exactly what I said, they wanted something spiffy, so they made Kahn blow up. Thats why I said its 'what if', just get past it. So Midway wanted to be fancy, who cares? Its not in the storyline, and you should just forget about it. Cage already has a big fanbase, so putting him in makes people happy, some of them. As with Scorpion. And nothing can stay the same forever, MKDA is alot different storyline wise than some of the other MK's. Which is a great thing in my opinion, and yes I can say its cool AND original still.

Ok, enough debating back to the question. When did you think MK's story jump the shark or ever did?

I'm not sure this topic itself in on the right board, but I'll answer anyway.

I don't feel its 'jumped the shark' because usually when something does that, it doesn't produce anything better than something older in the series. And many feel MKDA is the best game, or at least second behind MK2. The point is, its defiantly a step up for MK again. I did feel MK's story got off track at MK Trilogy, but the point of that game was to get all the characters on the same game, it wasn't about the story. MKDA's story is the best of all the games in my opinion, so it has defiantly not 'jumped the shark'.

I don't think any MK game ever really had a BAD stroy, maybe MK3 and 4 weren't up to par with the first two, but MKDA has an extremely complex and in-depth story, which is cool. So I don't think the MK storyline has ever "jumped the shark."

I suppose the guy has never heard of dramatic effect.

XcarnageX Wrote: I don't think any MK game ever really had a BAD stroy, maybe MK3 and 4 weren't up to par with the first two, but MKDA has an extremely complex and in-depth story, which is cool. So I don't think the MK storyline has ever "jumped the shark."

Actually, I think the worst story of Mortal Kombat was Mk2. Mk3 was one of the best! The second best I must say (MKDA is DEFENATLY the best Ive seen) The invasion, resurecting a more then 10000 year old queen and breaking the rules to invade earth was all exelent. The story of Mk3 was well elaborated and all compared to Mk2, whos story was just another tournament with another main evil guy....no more.

MKDA is sure the best Ive seen, in that I agree.