Why don't you post all the details here since you are linking to General Discussion and the topic shouldn't be there.
And also, I'll mention what I did there, are you talking about MK3 or UMK3, because regular MK3 would be a waste. Also, even if it is more difficult to run something other then the SNES version, the SNES version is a bad idea because its so broken and different from the Arcade, PSX and Saturn that its just bad.

Playing on ZSNES is good for a tournament because regardless of your location, if you have a good computer you will play with little or no lag...using MAME, we would have lag and high system requirements.

You should post it here and not in GD W_P.

Plus, Random Select is a bad idea...I don't have a problem with it as I can play all characters, but there's bound to be someone who can't play all char.

Use UMK3. Plus, we need a MK2 tourney too!

Everyone needs to buy a legit copy of MKT for PC. It has online play and that would be the most fun. MK2 is pretty slow and I pretty much forgot which moves aren't in UMK3 that are in MKT.

quan_chilli Wrote: Everyone needs to buy a legit copy of MKT for PC. It has online play and that would be the most fun. MK2 is pretty slow and I pretty much forgot which moves aren't in UMK3 that are in MKT.

I actually had that, but it wouldn't run on my Amish Wagon...I'll have to look into getting it again.

But, realistically...it's a hell of a lot easier to find MK2/3/U for SNES for like $5 at a used game store than it is to find MKT for PC, let alone getting the damn thing running. ZSNES and zBattle are free programs and owning a ROM when you own the game is perfectly legal. (Editor's Note: Yes, but giving links to ROM sites also allows those who don't own the xart to get it illegally. That is why we do not allow those links. Thank you. -- D'Arque Bishop)

Why should anything like MK2 on SNES being slow (which I don't think it is) stop us from having a tournament? For Christ's sake, this is a good thing...let's play each other! Tournament or not.

alright cool im gonna go get everything i can get i never played the PC versions but ill buy get a remote and play u guys online!!!!!

I chose MK3 basically because UMK3 on the snes kinda sucked. Sure, it had more characters to choose from, but there was only a handful of battlegrounds, less sound effects, and the gore had been toned down. Add to that the fact that it doesn't emulate all that well with some bad sound glitches and you'll see why I chose MK3.

Here's the rules:

Everyone here likes to boast about their elite MK skills. So, I say, why not prove it? I introduce to you, White_Pointer's MK3 tournament!

The idea is pretty simple. Use this thread to "sign up", so to speak, all you need to do is make a post that says "I'm in" or something to that effect. However, please don't sign up unless you are serious about participating. Nothing is worse than organising matches only to find that people don't show up.

The tournament is open to ANYONE on these boards, from the novices to the experts. Even if you don't think you can win, where's the harm in a little fun? You never know, you may go better than you expect. There's no prize at the end, only the privelage of being able to brag to everyone that you are the best MK3 player on the boards! :)

It will depend on how many people sign up as to how I'll organise the ladder, but, here's a guide if 8 people sign up most of you should be fairly familiar with this kind of structure, this is just a guide (hopefully I'll have more than 8 people sign up!):

A. 1 vs 2
B. 3 vs 4
C. 5 vs 6
D. 7 vs 8

a. Winner A vs Winner B
b. Winner C. vs Winner D.

Final: Winner a. vs Winner b.

Now, everyone's favourite part, the rules! I've tried to make this as simple as possible and also as fair as possible. So here we go.

• The matches will be played on the SNES enulator ZSNES. I've found this is the best emulator to use as Mame has difficulty running on lower end machines. The specs for ZSNES are not very high, and is easily accessible. If you don't have it already, make sure you download the latest version here (top left corner of the page). Only the Win32 and Linux versions will work properly over the internet, so don't download the DOS version.
  
• To make sure everyone has the same rom of MK3, you can download it from my server here. (Editor's Note: We do not allow linking to ROMs on this site. Thank you. -- D'Arque Bishop)
  
• A match will be decided in a first to 5 wins scenario, except for the final which will be first to 10 wins.
  
• Both players must choose random (up and start) for every fight.
  
• Bosses (Shao Kahn and Motaro) can NOT be enabled.
  
• Smoke CAN be enabled if both players agree. (To enable Smoke, on the start/options screen, press this button sequence: Select, A, B, Right, Left, Down, Down, Up, Up. A "Kool Stuff" menu will appear. Enter this menu to enable Smoke on the character select screen)
  
• Infinites are NOT allowed.
  
• Before each fight begins, one or both players must record the characters that were randomly chosen for each player. After each fight, whoever won the fight gets 1 point, so that must be recorded too.
  
• After I complete the match-ups, you'll have a few days to get in contact with each other and arrange your match. If you fail to organise your match within the time period, I'll simply toss a coin to determine the winner, unless I have been prior notified that so-and-so didn't show. Both the players are responsible for organising a match time that suits both of them.
  
• The results of each match must be posted up here by one or both of the players participating in the match. The characters that were randomly chosen for each player, and the scorecard for each player after each fight.
  
• If anyone doesn't comply with the rules (ie, they do not use random select or they use an infinite etc...) I must be notified and the offender will be disqualified.
  

That's about it ladies and gentlemen. If anyone has any questions, don't hesitate to ask me. If you are unsure about using zsnes or setting up an internet game on zsnes, contact me on ICQ: 36025875 or MSN: wh1tepointer@hotmail.com and I'll walk you through the process. It's pretty easy so don't worry about it! :)

So with that out of the way...start signing up! Feel free to ask any questions, too.

White_Pointer

I definitely want to play, but I still think that UMK3 is a better choice, all the gameplay is intact...which is what matters.

And Random Select still is a bad idea, but whatever.

What about some practice rounds? I'm Konqrr on zBattle.net, I'll play any SNES MK game except MK1 cuz it's way messed up and infinites are way too easy.

I'm not really interested in the tourny I'm way to rusty to participate... but I do love mk2 and I would love to play you when you have some free time Konqrr. Contact me on msn (if you have it) deathwalker69@hotmail.com or via the private message system here.

Konqrr Wrote: I definitely want to play, but I still think that UMK3 is a better choice, all the gameplay is intact...which is what matters. And Random Select still is a bad idea, but whatever. What about some practice rounds? I'm Konqrr on zBattle.net, I'll play any SNES MK game except MK1 cuz it's way messed up and infinites are way too easy.

Konqrr Wrote: I definitely want to play, but I still think that UMK3 is a better choice, all the gameplay is intact...which is what matters. And Random Select still is a bad idea, but whatever. What about some practice rounds? I'm Konqrr on zBattle.net, I'll play any SNES MK game except MK1 cuz it's way messed up and infinites are way too easy.

Get in contact with me...ICQ: 36025875 MSN: wh1tepointer@hotmail.com...I'd love to arrange a game with you :)

White_Pointer

Well, what the hell, I might as well try it. I'm in for the tournament. I am trying to get ZSNES to run on my comp but it needs a big DirectX update. If I get it setup before your tourny I'll be in.

How is ZSNES on lag?

nvm, realized that I broke the rules by mentioning roms

Oh and also, are there any issues with random select when playing with ZSNES online? For other emus like Mame, the random select causes a desync because the two copies of the game playing on the two computers randomly select different characters.

dreemernj Wrote: Oh and also, are there any issues with random select when playing with ZSNES online? For other emus like Mame, the random select causes a desync because the two copies of the game playing on the two computers randomly select different characters.

Nope, random select is fone on ZSNES...I've tried and tested it myself.

White_Pointer

Well, here's a few things.

First of all, MK3 is simply a really bad idea. I will go as far as to say extremely bad.

Gore, violence, sounds, and bgs are no reason to disqualify the game for the tournament, I would play on Mame, with bgs, sounds, and violence turned off if need be, but hey that's just me. In any event, I'm in no matter what game it is, and I have a feeling random select will desync the game, like it does in Mame, even though I prefer double random select, because I enjoy using all the characters. Also, no matter what program you use, anyone on dial up will have lag, there's no getting around that, and it's going to be nearly a second's worth, merely because of the packet loss from dial up connections. z:o

So count me in.

Matt

A few other things:

The person that hosts the game has an advantage of no lag.

Not true... I played mk2 with a friend of mine and i was the host... we both had lag.

dreemernj Wrote: A few other things: The person that hosts the game has an advantage of no lag.

So what is going on exactly with this tourny?

I just tested it out playing UMK3 with MK2KungBroken. It was nice, I played with my ~33.6 connection and had zero lag as host but some decent lag as a client. Definately not an even balance if two people have a slow connection.

Also, again, I dont understand why UMK3 was ruled out. It is superior to MK3 for SNES in every way that matters at all.

Well unless we get more people interested, it's not happening...

White_Pointer

Didn't I make another reply in this thread? hmmmm

quan_chilli Wrote: Didn't I make another reply in this thread? hmmmm

Me too...

Oh well...when I get my computer back up (virus), I want to play all you guys!!!!!!!

Konqrr Wrote: quan_chilli Wrote: Didn't I make another reply in this thread? hmmmm Me too... Oh well...when I get my computer back up (virus), I want to play all you guys!!!!!!!

Last night I was making a post to this forum and a few minutes after I did MK5.org crapped out. When I tried to post to another thread it refused to go. Then I went to the forum lists and they were all empty, saying there were no messages. Later, when it came back, a bunch of the posts to this thread and probably others were gone.

I believe that White_Pointer asked why MK3 is so much worse then UMK3, here's why:

1. Drastically fewer characters
2. No 2 on 2 Kombat
3. Fewer moves (e.g. Kano's upward cannonball, Stryker's Gun)
4. Fewer kombos (e.g. Liu Kang's launcher, Sonya's Launcher)
5. No air starters (Huge difference in gameplay)

There are other differences but those are the main ones. Any losses in sound quality and backgrounds in the SNES version of UMK3 are irrelevant if you are trying to Play the game versus just looking at it or listening to it.

dreemernj Wrote: There are other differences but those are the main ones. Any losses in sound quality and backgrounds in the SNES version of UMK3 are irrelevant if you are trying to Play the game versus just looking at it or listening to it.

I have to whole heartedly agree with DreemerNJ on this one, there's just simply no rational justification for playing any MK game other than UMK3. It is in essence, "Komplete" with more variety to offer, and more fine tuned. No matter the case, whether it's MK3 or UMK3, I will just have to claim victory under protest.