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posted04/06/2005 08:24 PM (UTC)by
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recently i have heard from a thread that it is possible that nitara's realm is zaterra. this would make sense as she knew lots about reptile and his people, and kahn did take over it. i decided to go a step further by saying that nitara and reptiles ralm could also be onaga's as well.
outworld was not originally a realm, just a big realm made up of small ones such as zaterra and edenia, before it was free. so where did onaga come from. we all asume that he was the first ruler of outworld so its possible that he created it. so i believe that onaga was unhappy about how zaterra was ruled and took for himself. it makes sense.
then i thought, how was kahn born and where? he was onaga's grand advisor, so he was probably recruited first, so he probably originated somewhere else. im thinking that kahn was born in chaosrealm and lived to create chaos until he heard that zaterra was going to war with onaga; who had now called the realm outworld. therefore, i think kahn joined onaga in hopes of expanding the chaos. then of course, he lead onaga's army into battle, killed reptiles ancestors and then got greedy and poisoned onaga. this explains everyones origin (b/c outworld was not created by the elder gods), and then explains why havik liked what kahn did. (he must have had allies and stuff in chaosrealm including havik.).

does anyone agree/disagree/have another theory?

it would also be cool b/c nitara freed zaterra in mkda, so if mk7 has a konquest where you go to all of the realms again, you could visit reppy, kham and cham.

and once again, it would explain why reptile thought that kahn dunit but wasnt sure, how kahn could have freed zaterra if he wanted to and how reppy could evolve back into his ninja form.
and it could be connected with why reppy was onagas host in mkd, but thats probably coincidence. and nitara did find a temple explaining reptiles people. i think it works perfectly. you?tongue
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02/26/2005 03:56 PM (UTC)
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That seems probable, well done
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02/26/2005 04:15 PM (UTC)
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thanx blackmagik. n e 1 else?tongue
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02/26/2005 04:21 PM (UTC)
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No!
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02/26/2005 04:32 PM (UTC)
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hmmm.....

You may be right, I like your train of thought lol.
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02/26/2005 05:30 PM (UTC)
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That’s actually a well developed theory. Good job!

I can see Vampires and Reptile having some sort of realm-relation. After all, you can see in MKDA that Nitara has found proof of a humanoid reptilian raced that lived in earth in the era of Dinosaurs.

But earth cant be Zateraa. My guess is that vampires and Reptiles lived in community in the realm of earth, but after the many evolutions etc etc a new realm was created by the gods (Zaterra) allowing vampires and the big reptilian creatures of that time to live there. Kahn later conquered it and destroyed it.

Onaga could very well be a mix of reptilians and vampires.

Great theory!
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02/26/2005 06:45 PM (UTC)
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thanx. btw didnt mention earth once.
siduu, y u say no?
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02/26/2005 09:43 PM (UTC)
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Thats actually kinda what I thought too. I mean the vampires with all the raptor records and the fact that Khameleon also gets mentioned in Nitara's konquest suggests to me that vampires and raptors occupied the same realm.
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02/27/2005 04:27 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
That’s actually a well developed theory. Good job!

I can see Vampires and Reptile having some sort of realm-relation. After all, you can see in MKDA that Nitara has found proof of a humanoid reptilian raced that lived in earth in the era of Dinosaurs.

But earth cant be Zateraa. My guess is that vampires and Reptiles lived in community in the realm of earth, but after the many evolutions etc etc a new realm was created by the gods (Zaterra) allowing vampires and the big reptilian creatures of that time to live there. Kahn later conquered it and destroyed it.

Onaga could very well be a mix of reptilians and vampires.

Great theory!


Nice theory on Onaga being a mix of Reptillians and Vampires. We know that he is beyond simple Reptillian. I hadn't thought about it before, but your explanations make some sense. This could also explain Onaga's big weakness, his heart. Impale the heart (as Sindel does in her ending) and you destroy Onaga for good, kind of like Dracula with the wooden stake.
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03/01/2005 10:53 PM (UTC)
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to make this simple it's not possible. If Nitara and Reptile were from the same Realm then when Nitara smashed the orb that join "there"realm with outworld, both Nitara and Reptile would have been transported away.

While i can see you gave your theory much thought, I think you forgot that the Vampire people have records of many Cultures and civilizations, past and present. They Travel the realms and most likely have visited Zaterra.
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03/05/2005 09:14 AM (UTC)
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im saying thast those records about races are in the zaterra part of outworld where nitara is and shes collecting data on the other species in her realm and how to manipulate them. reptile could have sensed something about her when he attacked which made him stop and praise her. and there are still other vampires as it says in raidens mkda ending: "the vampire people". and they did not go back to the realm with nitara. they need to find their own way from outworld to zatterra with the nexus or the magic crystals around their necks. i still think it makes sense that onaga,nitara,reptile,khameleon and chameleon are/were from the same zaterra.
it could also explain why reptile was onaga's host.(probably a coincidence)
reptile was not present at the time of orb smashing so he did not go with her, but it would be cool if in konquest 2 had zaterra.
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03/05/2005 10:22 AM (UTC)
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shotgunpuma Wrote:
recently i have heard from a thread that it is possible that nitara's realm is zaterra. this would make sense as she knew lots about reptile and his people, and kahn did take over it. i decided to go a step further by saying that nitara and reptiles ralm could also be onaga's as well.
outworld was not originally a realm, just a big realm made up of small ones such as zaterra and edenia, before it was free. so where did onaga come from. we all asume that he was the first ruler of outworld so its possible that he created it. so i believe that onaga was unhappy about how zaterra was ruled and took for himself. it makes sense.
then i thought, how was kahn born and where? he was onaga's grand advisor, so he was probably recruited first, so he probably originated somewhere else. im thinking that kahn was born in chaosrealm and lived to create chaos until he heard that zaterra was going to war with onaga; who had now called the realm outworld. therefore, i think kahn joined onaga in hopes of expanding the chaos. then of course, he lead onaga's army into battle, killed reptiles ancestors and then got greedy and poisoned onaga. this explains everyones origin (b/c outworld was not created by the elder gods), and then explains why havik liked what kahn did. (he must have had allies and stuff in chaosrealm including havik.).

does anyone agree/disagree/have another theory?

it would also be cool b/c nitara freed zaterra in mkda, so if mk7 has a konquest where you go to all of the realms again, you could visit reppy, kham and cham.

and once again, it would explain why reptile thought that kahn dunit but wasnt sure, how kahn could have freed zaterra if he wanted to and how reppy could evolve back into his ninja form.
and it could be connected with why reppy was onagas host in mkd, but thats probably coincidence. and nitara did find a temple explaining reptiles people. i think it works perfectly. you?tongue


omg.... ur just speculating....

Onaga was the ruler of Zaterra. Reptile is his son! Onaga did make Outworld (i think starting with Zaterra but not sure on that). later Shao Kahn then poisoned his great enemy, Onaga, so he could be emperor of outworld. and since then Reptile has been trying to get his realm, Zattera back.

Nitara isnt from Zattera. wasnt her realm mentioned in MKDA? i think it was but cant remember the name of it.

as for Shao Kahn hes the last of some kind of Dragon race. his realm was destroyed. Shao Kahn was then born in Edenia and with the help of magic was able to take a human form.

and and one other thing.... Onaga and Reptile r of the same race (and im nearly positive they r father and son) and thats y Reptile was taken as the host for Onaga.

i suggest that u just stop right here right now making up stuff where there is already facts.
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03/05/2005 12:47 PM (UTC)
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what the hell r u talkin about??!! you cant remember nitara's realm's name b/c it wasn't said. its just a realm, and i think that its zatterra. what are you talkin bout, reppy's not onagas son. where did u find that bs bout kahn. my theory works, and some of it is speculation but not all of it. it frits perfectly
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03/05/2005 04:14 PM (UTC)
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The only connection Reptile has to Onaga is that There both green and scaley. which brings up a good point. Is onaga naturaly like that? or was he just taking on reptiles traits? Is'nt it coinsidence that REPTILE was the one selected to be the DRAGON king. IMO there gonna explain it had nothing to do with reptile being in the wrong place at the wrong time which seems to be most peoples idea. Reptile has a fadeing memory with each new game. We know nothing about his real past. Is it possible Reptile WAS and HAS been the dragon king all along? Did the dragon embreyo simply activate a long burried power from withing Reptile? He can't remeber worth shit. mabey khan was never able to kill him so he simply let him De-Evolve and made him his slave. which would explain why he is simply called "Reptile". What about the whole new world opened to MK threu MKD on GC. Cloneing. U know were gonna find out someones been a clone now this whole time. ALA Boba Fett in AOTC. And what of Khameleon? She listed as one of Reptiles Allies in Mortal Kombat Deception. So were is she??? All in All eveyones storys and theroy aare simply speculation.
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03/08/2005 06:46 PM (UTC)
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03/08/2005 07:36 PM (UTC)
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also, think about this!!!

when onaga, chameleon and khameleon all died, reptile devolved. but when onaga returned he leaped into reptiles body.
in sindels ending (doesnt matter if its canon or not) she takes the dk's soul out of reptile into his original one and kills him. we then see reptile as a human lying down unconscious.
why wasn't he an actual reptile like in mkda? because he was with one of his pwn people. he was with a zaterran. now he's a ninja. it works out. and everyones happy about reptiles look, b/c the ninja look is the best.tongue
argue with that!
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03/12/2005 05:50 PM (UTC)
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btw, what did nitara's bio say about kham?tongue
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03/14/2005 10:34 PM (UTC)
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KHAM'S not in nitara's biotongue
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03/21/2005 08:24 PM (UTC)
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dont f*ckin ignore me. this is a good thread and it links in to the "is onaga evil" thread in the deception section. kham and cham are not mentioned anywhere in nitara's bio and im waiting for someone to bring new evidence to my attention concerning the fact that reptile, chameleon, khameleon, onaga and nitara are all part of the same realm zaterra which is now free from outworld allowing you to travel in it in konquest mk7. agreed?
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03/21/2005 10:46 PM (UTC)
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Khameleon (female) is mentioned in Nitara's Konquest mode. She is of the same race as Reptile, the raptors.

No one knows who/what Chameleon is. Maybe he's a clone/hybrid, maybe he's a raptor, or maybe he's non-canon. It doesn't matter.

Onaga's actually a dragon... not a raptor. But because they are both reptilian, that probably made it so that he was able to inhabit Reptile's body. (Also, the fact that Reptile's body was in the process of undergoing tremendous changes probably made it very easy for Onaga to warp Reptile's body the way he saw fit.)

I hope this helps.
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03/22/2005 01:01 PM (UTC)
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chameleon is the male version of khameleon except khameleon knows more about the zaterra past than chameleon. he's also really good as he has the others' moves=spear/freeze/acid etc.
how is khameleon mentioned. i have not heard her in nitara's konq. can you send me the text? did she appeal to khameleon during the mktrilogy in ordeer to get thye orb then but then she got killed? tell me please
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03/23/2005 10:13 PM (UTC)
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does anyone else agree or disagree whether onaga, nitara and reptile all were born in the realm of zattera until it was taken over and became outworld. and the same realm that nitara attempted to free during mk trilogy, which she later suceeded in doing. the same realm that everyone wants to explore in the konquest mode of mk7? i do.tongue
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03/24/2005 02:24 AM (UTC)
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I agree on every thing but Onaga, but shotgunpuma you know I have issues with the Dragon King. I'd be as bold as to say that he was the one who took Zattera, but in Reptile's bio we know thats not the case. I'd say Onaga assasinated JFK but we still know thats not the case.

Just messing with ya grintongue. But you do have a great theory though.
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03/24/2005 11:32 AM (UTC)
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yeh. he either took zaterra by force or was elected or sumat. since his return, maybe he'll be the one to assassinate george bushtongue
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04/03/2005 03:43 PM (UTC)
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anyone got any other theories relating to this or maybe agrees/disagrees with me???tongue
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