360 UK Mag gives MK vs DC Universe scathing preview! Awful just Awful
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I dont have scans of this, but anyone in Ireland or the UK can also confirm this. In their latest issue, Nov 08, they run a preview of the near complete version of MK vs DC Universe. Firstly they comment on how vicous the jokers gun fatality is, so i assume they have their copy before Midway had to tone it down.

They said that in an age of such precision fighting like soul calibur, tekken, virtua fighter, there is really no excuse for this game. They say its clunky, unresponsive. Its also the most unfairly balanced fighting game they have ever played. They say that its just bland button bashing with no pay off.

It gets so bad that they run out of things to bash the title with so they instead find it funny to quote lines from "Dude!, wheres my car?! (what does my tattoo say etc).

They finish by saying that they have absolutely no hopes for this title after playing it, and that the crossover could be the biggest mistake in MK history bar Special Forces.

Now while everyone certainly isnt a mortal kombat fan, it should be noted that they rated Ultimate MK 9.1 on live. Gave Deception 8.8 . Cant find what they gave DA or Armageddon. But its certainly not a good sign. These arent a silly flash in the pan website, 360 is the highest selling unoffical mag in the UK.
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10/28/2008 02:50 PM (UTC)
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Told you so. It's funny how mags didn't wake up sooner to the fact that Mortal Kombat has been a broken clunky unacceptable mess since MKDA. They were all giving MKD 8 and 9 out of ten and stuff. People here at MKO are telling others to shut up about the fatalities and DC characters and concentrate on the gameplay that has become miraculously awesome.

The reality seems to be that it's slightly better. Yes, having stringed combos and a replenishable breaker does make it less broken, but that doesn't stop it being a clunky mess. A lot of moves I can see are directly ripped from MKDA/MKD/MKA.

Don't any of you tell me I should wait to play it. It's quite clear it's a mess from just seeing the gameplay in action, and a scathing review only lends credence to what I suspect.
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10/28/2008 02:56 PM (UTC)
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I've never listened to reviews and I wont start now, how can someone tell me if I'm gonna like a game or not? Not everyone likes the same stuff.
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10/28/2008 03:03 PM (UTC)
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Do not listen to them IMO .
This game rocks and you will see .

By the way both they did not try Tekken on PS3 OR X360 .Also it sucks form what I have seen it is just the same as Tekken 5 DR .

Soul Calibur 4 sucked and when we knew it .
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10/28/2008 03:19 PM (UTC)
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Don't listen to magazine reviews, you never know what kind of fanboy is hiding behind them. I'm sure they called it unresponsive cause they were trying out soul calibur combos.
If you want proper impressions, ask people on forums who have actually played the game.
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10/28/2008 03:20 PM (UTC)
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To be honest, if they think quoting "Dude, Where's My Car?" is at all funny (confused) and that Deception deserved 8/10, then I'm not trusting their opinion.
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10/28/2008 03:29 PM (UTC)
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Exactly. In this day and age of the Tekken and Soul calibur fans, if it doesn't play like either title, the reviewer will rate it low. The MK Team has already stated that this game has gone back to a 2D style of game play. The Soul Calibur and Tekken fan will easily scoff at the idea. These same reviewers will no doubt give Street Fighter IV a bad review because it too is a 2D based fighter. I for one am not a huge fan of the Soul Calibur or Tekken series. I perfer the more streamlined 2D fighters to be honest, though I will play the 3D games.


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10/28/2008 03:41 PM (UTC)
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Exactly. In this day and age of the Tekken and Soul calibur fans, if it doesn't play like either title, the reviewer will rate it low.


You have to wonder why the last gen MK's got such good reviews when they were really awful to play though. What does this say, if an MK game with significantly improved gameplay gets such a terrible review? Plus. if they're saying it's clunky and stiff and I can see it's clunky and stiff...

I trust my own opinion, and I'm not happy with it so far. You can't know from just a review, but if ten games mags come out and say it's abominable I'd err stronger towards the side that says it's bad. My expectations would rightly be lowered, and the MK team have a track record for that.

If I turn out to be right, some of you are going to be disappointed after such optimism. I really, really, really, hope I and this magazine are wrong though.
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10/28/2008 04:07 PM (UTC)
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mastermalone Wrote:
Exactly. In this day and age of the Tekken and Soul calibur fans, if it doesn't play like either title, the reviewer will rate it low. The MK Team has already stated that this game has gone back to a 2D style of game play. The Soul Calibur and Tekken fan will easily scoff at the idea. These same reviewers will no doubt give Street Fighter IV a bad review because it too is a 2D based fighter. I for one am not a huge fan of the Soul Calibur or Tekken series. I perfer the more streamlined 2D fighters to be honest, though I will play the 3D games.


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You have to admit that this is still confusing. I've read through that thread on Shoryuken.com and on one hand I'm seeing a few people saying it's very very good (and converting a few naysayers in the process) while on the other hand we've got people saying it's terrible. They both can't be right and it's pretty uncommon for a game to be lauded on one hand and slammed on the other. You might have one or two rogue reviewers but in general there's usually a "consensus."
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10/28/2008 04:10 PM (UTC)
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Token Wrote:

You have to wonder why the last gen MK's got such good reviews when they were really awful to play though. What does this say, if an MK game with significantly improved gameplay gets such a terrible review? Plus. if they're saying it's clunky and stiff and I can see it's clunky and stiff...

I trust my own opinion, and I'm not happy with it so far. You can't know from just a review, but if ten games mags come out and say it's abominable I'd err stronger towards the side that says it's bad. My expectations would rightly be lowered, and the MK team have a track record for that.

If I turn out to be right, some of you are going to be disappointed after such optimism. I really, really, really, hope I and this magazine are wrong though.


I hear what you're saying. To me, from what I've experienced and read on the Street Fighter IV threads at SRK, some reviewers said the same thing. Once the majority of the players got first hand experience on the game, the general concensus was that the game was very good, although it felt clunky at first.

Now, I hear nothing but good things about the game and I have seen plenty of gameplay vids that say SFIV is a great game. I see the same thing happening with this new MKvsDC. Sure, you can't please everyone, but I certainly am pleased that the old combo system is gone, replaced by a free combo system.

The second thing I'm happy about is the fact that special moves are no longer just stand alone moves and can now be included as part of a combo chain like DarkStalkers. The pro moves just add a bit more depth to the game, requiring a bit more skill and timing to pull off. These changes to the core engine will separate the men from the boys online and at future tournaments. Yes, there is a tournament sheduled for early next year for this game. The guy who's writing the guidehas already mentioned where it will be held on SRK.

Honestly, MKD and MKA got 8's and 9's because of the sheer amount of content that they had. Cetainly, it was not the fighting engine that deserved those scores. This game has shifted it's focus to apeal to the hardcore and the casual gamer, meaning no mini-game gimicks to entice customers.

If you feel that you can trust these reviewers, that's your decision. You're entitled to that. I for one will form my own opinion once I play it. If the recent videos are any indication, I'd say that I'm going to enjoy the hell out of this game.

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10/28/2008 04:34 PM (UTC)
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MK-DA Wrote:
Don't listen to magazine reviews, you never know what kind of fanboy is hiding behind them. I'm sure they called it unresponsive cause they were trying out soul calibur combos.
If you want proper impressions, ask people on forums who have actually played the game.

Agreed. They're the FIRST bad review. Not to be trusted in my opinion.
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10/28/2008 04:41 PM (UTC)
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Aha... interesting, interesting...! Well, at the end it's just one opinion out of thousands, so it won’t influence me by now. Maybe the reviewer was only familiar with 3D fighting games and has no idea of 2D (oriented) fighting games (more jumping, much more combos, faster and so on)... Nah, I don’t know XD Fuck it... IMO there’s no reason to be worried about. Everybody has a different taste, so be it!
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10/28/2008 04:44 PM (UTC)
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Nic-V Wrote:
Agreed. They're the FIRST bad review. Not to be trusted in my opinion.


I don't know. Having a lot of good previews/reviews doesn't necessarily mean that it is indeed good. Spider-Man Web of Shadows came out recently and it got practically everywhere a good score. Then IGN reviewed it and smashed it with a score of 5.5.

Then I got to play it and boy were they right with many of the things they had to say.
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10/28/2008 04:50 PM (UTC)
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the day MK:A came out gamespot gave the game a fuckin 9 and it turned out to be a 6. That's evidence that a game's potential truly shines when it's on the shelves. Don't be dissapointed it's too early.They probably dont know how to play the game at its fullest. They just keep comparing it to soul caliber and fucking tekken well they're not the same and they should'nt compare. they'll give a game a fuckin 10 if its 3-D. they just dont like the idea of an old-school game.
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10/28/2008 04:53 PM (UTC)
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really are you out of your mind?? i know we tend to look back on the older ones with a childlike sense of awe and sentiment but...cmon..deception and armageddon game play was a huge step forward and by far the better games for actual gameplay (wasnt a fan of most of the new characters (havocs a big exception)
anywho, button masher...ya i dont think so, and if you do lets play and we'll see where that button mashin gets ya
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10/28/2008 05:11 PM (UTC)
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i'm not shocked. echoing what was said earlier you can literally SEE that some of the same moves from the past games are still there which made me think that even though the execution will be different the actually feeling will be the same.

which is sad but i don't base wether i buy a game or not or how much i enjoy it based off of another persons review. really i just read those to know some what what to expect from the game so i won't be throwing my controller around in shocking dissapointment.
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10/28/2008 06:07 PM (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger Wrote:
mastermalone Wrote:
Exactly. In this day and age of the Tekken and Soul calibur fans, if it doesn't play like either title, the reviewer will rate it low. The MK Team has already stated that this game has gone back to a 2D style of game play. The Soul Calibur and Tekken fan will easily scoff at the idea. These same reviewers will no doubt give Street Fighter IV a bad review because it too is a 2D based fighter. I for one am not a huge fan of the Soul Calibur or Tekken series. I perfer the more streamlined 2D fighters to be honest, though I will play the 3D games.


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You have to admit that this is still confusing. I've read through that thread on Shoryuken.com and on one hand I'm seeing a few people saying it's very very good (and converting a few naysayers in the process) while on the other hand we've got people saying it's terrible. They both can't be right and it's pretty uncommon for a game to be lauded on one hand and slammed on the other. You might have one or two rogue reviewers but in general there's usually a "consensus."


Jack Burton was kind of wondering whether or not the reviewer got accustomed to the new system. If this reviewer gave MKDA, MKD, and possibly MKA good reviews, it could have been because they were used to that fighting system, but perhaps this new one for MK vs. DC is just too different for them...could be a viable theory on my part...

And THAT'S what Jack Burton has to say at this time.
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10/28/2008 06:42 PM (UTC)
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Jack Burton was kind of wondering whether or not the reviewer got accustomed to the new system. If this reviewer gave MKDA, MKD, and possibly MKA good reviews, it could have been because they were used to that fighting system, but perhaps this new one for MK vs. DC is just too different for them...could be a viable theory on my part...

And THAT'S what Jack Burton has to say at this time.


I was thinking the same thing Jack. Either that or it could be the work of Lo Pan. grin


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10/28/2008 06:46 PM (UTC)
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RealSubZero Wrote:
Hi,

I dont have scans of this, but anyone in Ireland or the UK can also confirm this. In their latest issue, Nov 08, they run a preview of the near complete version of MK vs DC Universe. Firstly they comment on how vicous the jokers gun fatality is, so i assume they have their copy before Midway had to tone it down.

They said that in an age of such precision fighting like soul calibur, tekken, virtua fighter, there is really no excuse for this game. They say its clunky, unresponsive. Its also the most unfairly balanced fighting game they have ever played. They say that its just bland button bashing with no pay off.

It gets so bad that they run out of things to bash the title with so they instead find it funny to quote lines from "Dude!, wheres my car?! (what does my tattoo say etc).

They finish by saying that they have absolutely no hopes for this title after playing it, and that the crossover could be the biggest mistake in MK history bar Special Forces.

Now while everyone certainly isnt a mortal kombat fan, it should be noted that they rated Ultimate MK 9.1 on live. Gave Deception 8.8 . Cant find what they gave DA or Armageddon. But its certainly not a good sign. These arent a silly flash in the pan website, 360 is the highest selling unoffical mag in the UK.


the review fails at "gave Deception 8.8," I'm sorry this game looks worlds better than that flaming turd
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10/28/2008 06:47 PM (UTC)
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Interesting. Especially seeing as for previews magazines and websites tend to be "kind" to games, overlooking flaws and the such.

Maybe this game will just be like the previous 3D MKs. Where more casual players will pick it up and enjoy the game for what it is and more "hardcore" players will slam it for being a fuck up. Time will tell.

But this time we can punch Superman in the face. And it isn't Create a Fighter. Awesome.
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10/28/2008 06:52 PM (UTC)
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mastermalone Wrote:
JackBurton Wrote:
Jack Burton was kind of wondering whether or not the reviewer got accustomed to the new system. If this reviewer gave MKDA, MKD, and possibly MKA good reviews, it could have been because they were used to that fighting system, but perhaps this new one for MK vs. DC is just too different for them...could be a viable theory on my part...

And THAT'S what Jack Burton has to say at this time.


I was thinking the same thing Jack. Either that or it could be the work of Lo Pan. grin


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Ahhhh....I see what you did there. haha

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10/28/2008 07:01 PM (UTC)
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I hope that's the case. And did I mention that JackBurton is my favorite new user on here?

One of two things is happening. Either the people slamming the game are finding it too different and thus had trouble learning to play and so are feeling that they just can't do anything. Or people who are praising the game are so enamored by a few bells and whistles they're being blinded and can't see that there are major problems. I am sincerely hoping for the former.
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10/28/2008 07:52 PM (UTC)
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Any links to the article other than this topic? No offensive to the TC, but, do we actually know that this is what the article says? All I've seen is word of mouth.
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Nic-V
10/28/2008 08:43 PM (UTC)
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On the Midway board they said the same magazine bashed Halo 3... HMM
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10/28/2008 08:49 PM (UTC)
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Reviews are nothing more than glorified opinions.

Silent Hill: Homecoming got a scathing review from IGN, while I think it is a perfectly fine installment in the franchise. Meanwhile, I think Metal Gear Solid 4 really does not deserve the perfect 10 they awarded it.

That being said, I'll wait for a general consensus. If the majority agree it's a shot product, I'll hold back. If it gets universal praise, I'll reconsider giving it just a rental. If it gets mixed reviews, like I expect, I'll borrow a copy and give it a run through myself.
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