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posted05/21/2004 09:20 PM (UTC)byMember Since
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I knew it. I've watched every conceivable piece of footage, and read every preview, and you know what? They haven't added anything to the actual GAMEPLAY than little light indicators to tell you when to attack (oh sure, THAT adds a lot - it's a freakin fighting game, why do i need you to tell me when to attack?). Oh, and each character now has a throw and an uppercut.
How about the freakin 12 moves per character thing? How about adding some interesting move properties to the game? How about some MOVES?How about that every character plays the same? No setups, no midgames, no strategy, just spam on the few moves that are actually there. Someone else mentioned that you don't actually hit the opponent; you just sort of push their model around the screen, and you occasionally get an animation when you do it.
Ah, what's the use. It's not like they'll stop making this drivel as long as the sheep keep buying it and calling it the "BEST. FIGHTER. EVAR." Garbage.
How about the freakin 12 moves per character thing? How about adding some interesting move properties to the game? How about some MOVES?How about that every character plays the same? No setups, no midgames, no strategy, just spam on the few moves that are actually there. Someone else mentioned that you don't actually hit the opponent; you just sort of push their model around the screen, and you occasionally get an animation when you do it.
Ah, what's the use. It's not like they'll stop making this drivel as long as the sheep keep buying it and calling it the "BEST. FIGHTER. EVAR." Garbage.


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| Neurotransmitter Wrote: I knew it. I've watched every conceivable piece of footage, and read every preview, and you know what? They haven't added anything to the actual GAMEPLAY than little light indicators to tell you when to attack (oh sure, THAT adds a lot - it's a freakin fighting game, why do i need you to tell me when to attack?). Oh, and each character now has a throw and an uppercut. How about the freakin 12 moves per character thing? How about adding some interesting move properties to the game? How about some MOVES?How about that every character plays the same? No setups, no midgames, no strategy, just spam on the few moves that are actually there. Someone else mentioned that you don't actually hit the opponent; you just sort of push their model around the screen, and you occasionally get an animation when you do it. Ah, what's the use. It's not like they'll stop making this drivel as long as the sheep keep buying it and calling it the "BEST. FIGHTER. EVAR." Garbage. |
all the people moening about this game.... if u dont like it go to the classic fucking kombat forum!
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| justycist Wrote: all the people moening about this game.... if u dont like it go to the classic fucking kombat forum! |
Please. All the other Mortal Kombats were contrived bullshit too. The difference is that contrived bullshit would fly a decade ago, because it hadn't been seen before.


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if u hate mk so much why the hell are u on this forum?
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with 210 visits at that...?
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Because i wanted it to be good. Are we going to discuss the issues with the game, or is the only thing you can come up with to add here is a discussion of how many times somebody's clicked a mouse button?
Yes, there's been a lot of visits, because i wanted to read the forums, get the videos, the previews, and all the information i could. I think i said that already. Are you people this fucking daft?
Yes, there's been a lot of visits, because i wanted to read the forums, get the videos, the previews, and all the information i could. I think i said that already. Are you people this fucking daft?
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yo, u really need to chill the F**k out. i was just playin wit ya at first.. but ur pissin me off.
stop bein a lil b!tch and cryin over how u feel the mk games should be made.
stop bein a lil b!tch and cryin over how u feel the mk games should be made.
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| lareinasindel Wrote: yo, u really need to chill the F**k out. i was just playin wit ya at first.. but ur pissin me off. stop bein a lil b!tch and cryin over how u feel the mk games should be made. |
That has to be the single dumbest thing i've ever read on these forums. And believe me, that's saying a lot. Your parents must be proud. In fact, this person is exactly what i'm talking about. MK is a game for mental midgets, who hate other fighting games because they take skill and precision. They'd rather bite someone's head off - here's a clue, Aristotle: save your 50 bucks and rent Faces of Death instead. I mean, you're right about one thing, though: what the fuck AM i doing here? Good luck with your game, midgets.


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omg your so pathetic, did u have to make a thread to diss mk? why didnt u just post it in the mkd (worst game on e3) instead of making this thread and making urself look like a fool!
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ahh... i knew the silance wouldn't last long.. theres always someone that does this in this form.. anyway... well if u seen every vid and know every info that was on mko and all other sites... and you came to the conclusion that your not going to buy it.. then... yeah well get off the form.. and tell me... you said all the past mk's where bad to... hmm then i guess your an idiot for playing mk1 till the 6th game..
hmm... one more thing..

hmm... one more thing..

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oh well, the storyline will be good

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OMG everyone need to chill out cuz there over 3 months left to work on the game and that beta is at least 2 maybe 3 months old, before E3, so relax you can freak if it comes out october and nothing changed, but here's a list of things that improved on since MKDA
1:2 Fatalitys per fighter
2:finnaly a real boss the Dragon king
3:Tighter controls(means better response onbuttons and d pad movement)
4:Faster free stepping, and better movement confirmed from PSM and other mags
5:Hair Kari moves(we asked these long ago and now we get them)
6:5-6 specail moves per fighter confirmed in mags and edboon himself
7:darker feel.
8:More fighters 24+hidden
9:online play
10:10 Death Traps at least
11:More moves per fighting style
12:Multitierd Arenas
13:New sub boss
14:clasic MK music
15:clasic MK stages
16:classic moves
17:Deeper konquest mode
18:Puzzle Kombat
19:Chess Kombat
Sho help me out what else am I forgetting
1:2 Fatalitys per fighter
2:finnaly a real boss the Dragon king
3:Tighter controls(means better response onbuttons and d pad movement)
4:Faster free stepping, and better movement confirmed from PSM and other mags
5:Hair Kari moves(we asked these long ago and now we get them)
6:5-6 specail moves per fighter confirmed in mags and edboon himself
7:darker feel.
8:More fighters 24+hidden
9:online play
10:10 Death Traps at least
11:More moves per fighting style
12:Multitierd Arenas
13:New sub boss
14:clasic MK music
15:clasic MK stages
16:classic moves
17:Deeper konquest mode
18:Puzzle Kombat
19:Chess Kombat
Sho help me out what else am I forgetting
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Neuro,
Have you played the game yet? Plus you should also know, it is not done yet.
Have you played the game yet? Plus you should also know, it is not done yet.
To be honest, though, isn't pretty much everything on that list fluff?
Neurotransmitter might have an attitude problem, but I think his concerns are legit. Personally I love MK; I think the stories and characters are great, and I'd probably buy a Mortal Kombat game even if it plays or looks like Street Fighter 1. To me (and apparently most MK fans) the gameplay was never really the most central part in the MK experience though, and I have no problem acknowledging the fact that the gameplay in the MK games have not been flawless.
Compared to other major 3D fighting games like Tekken, Virtua Fighter or Soul Calibur, the gameplay in MKDA was very simple and primitive, and sadly, it seems MKD will not change this to any huge extent. I'm sure I will enjoy MKD thoroughly anyway, as I did MKDA (even though everyone I know hates it, pretty much), but at the same time I do share Neurotransmitter's concerns - if fighting games never evolved, we'd be playing Yie-Ar Kung Fu Online and Karate Champ Conquest.
Neurotransmitter might have an attitude problem, but I think his concerns are legit. Personally I love MK; I think the stories and characters are great, and I'd probably buy a Mortal Kombat game even if it plays or looks like Street Fighter 1. To me (and apparently most MK fans) the gameplay was never really the most central part in the MK experience though, and I have no problem acknowledging the fact that the gameplay in the MK games have not been flawless.
Compared to other major 3D fighting games like Tekken, Virtua Fighter or Soul Calibur, the gameplay in MKDA was very simple and primitive, and sadly, it seems MKD will not change this to any huge extent. I'm sure I will enjoy MKD thoroughly anyway, as I did MKDA (even though everyone I know hates it, pretty much), but at the same time I do share Neurotransmitter's concerns - if fighting games never evolved, we'd be playing Yie-Ar Kung Fu Online and Karate Champ Conquest.
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Yeah, and I'm sure that the animations for receiving a hit would be one of the last things they'd do, so that will probably change.
I dont't believe anything was wrong with the previous MKs with the exception of 4... which wasn't the best.
I play a lot of fighting games, and I wouldn't necisarily say that the fighting system is better or worse than say, DOA or SC2, it's just different. It's all about variety and there really are no other fighting games like MK.
It might be a little slower, perhaps a little rougher, but it's still well done. The fighting system is still good, and there is a lot of style involved. SC2 has a great fighting system, and when you get good at that game you look good doing it, but I wouldn't say that MK pales in comparison by a large margin.
I have fun with MK and that's the bottom line, I find the game very satisfying, and very cool. The character design is top notch, and in most cases so is the storyline.
I think you should wait until the final product is finished. Right now I think the only valid complaints should be about level design, selectable characters and their story lines, and some fatals. Those topics in addition to the game modes are the things that seem to be the most complete, and are probably the most likely to recieve decent and complete opinions at this point.
I think he should be able to post what he wants, as this is a forum, but I think you should wait till the final product for complaints upon things that will LIKELY change before the game is released.
I dont't believe anything was wrong with the previous MKs with the exception of 4... which wasn't the best.
I play a lot of fighting games, and I wouldn't necisarily say that the fighting system is better or worse than say, DOA or SC2, it's just different. It's all about variety and there really are no other fighting games like MK.
It might be a little slower, perhaps a little rougher, but it's still well done. The fighting system is still good, and there is a lot of style involved. SC2 has a great fighting system, and when you get good at that game you look good doing it, but I wouldn't say that MK pales in comparison by a large margin.
I have fun with MK and that's the bottom line, I find the game very satisfying, and very cool. The character design is top notch, and in most cases so is the storyline.
I think you should wait until the final product is finished. Right now I think the only valid complaints should be about level design, selectable characters and their story lines, and some fatals. Those topics in addition to the game modes are the things that seem to be the most complete, and are probably the most likely to recieve decent and complete opinions at this point.
I think he should be able to post what he wants, as this is a forum, but I think you should wait till the final product for complaints upon things that will LIKELY change before the game is released.
the guy who made the thread DOES have an attitude but like Jigsaw said his concerns r very legititmate. i was disappointed with DA because i thought it was going to be this super in depth fighting game. if i get deception (will def rent) i will rent it for what it is. a fun avg fighter with blood and fatalities. for more in depth fighters i'll go for soul calibur2. its like goingto see a crappy action movie (van helsing) as long as u go to see i for what it is, u wont be disappointed =)
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I don't understand you people, there are LOTS of changes to the gameplay.
The two most important and signifigant changes:
1. Combo Breakers
Do I need to tell you how much this alone changes things?
2. Death Traps / Ring Outs
Easily, the second biggest and most important change. Really if I have to illustrate how this completely changes the battle, I am saddened.
Not so signifigant, but still change the gameplay:
1. Arena Weapons
A completely different fighting stance lying around on any given level? Have you seen how big that sword is on the glass level? This clearly changes things.
2. New specials / Stances.
We know Scorp got the teleport, Sub has the clone, Li Mei got two new moves, Nightwolf's got at least 4 moves, The chick in the hat's got at least 4 moves. We've seen at least 6 or 7 completely new stances in movie clips alone, in addition to new strings in Pi Gua, and Dragon. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. You're telling me this isn't gameplay change?
3. Dashes
Not in the E3 build, but Boon says it's going in. Anyone whose played DA seriously knows that this will definately change things.
4. A larger cast than DA, about 75% of which is all brand new to the DA engine.
So, yeah, MKDe is a little more than an uppercut and some traffic lights. You may be disappointed because they didn't magically transform it into Tekken, or Soul Calibur over night, but let's get real. Mortal Kombat has always been simple, easy to learn and get into, and about showmanship. MK1/2/3 were never as deep as any Street Fighter / KoF, and MK4 certainly was no Tekken, Soul Cali, or DoA. Before DA, Boon said they were going to reinvent MK, and they did. DA is better both in overall gameplay, and "fluff" than any MK prior. Now they've taken DA to the next level, you would have to be blind to not see how far De has come.
-F.
The two most important and signifigant changes:
1. Combo Breakers
Do I need to tell you how much this alone changes things?
2. Death Traps / Ring Outs
Easily, the second biggest and most important change. Really if I have to illustrate how this completely changes the battle, I am saddened.
Not so signifigant, but still change the gameplay:
1. Arena Weapons
A completely different fighting stance lying around on any given level? Have you seen how big that sword is on the glass level? This clearly changes things.
2. New specials / Stances.
We know Scorp got the teleport, Sub has the clone, Li Mei got two new moves, Nightwolf's got at least 4 moves, The chick in the hat's got at least 4 moves. We've seen at least 6 or 7 completely new stances in movie clips alone, in addition to new strings in Pi Gua, and Dragon. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. You're telling me this isn't gameplay change?
3. Dashes
Not in the E3 build, but Boon says it's going in. Anyone whose played DA seriously knows that this will definately change things.
4. A larger cast than DA, about 75% of which is all brand new to the DA engine.
So, yeah, MKDe is a little more than an uppercut and some traffic lights. You may be disappointed because they didn't magically transform it into Tekken, or Soul Calibur over night, but let's get real. Mortal Kombat has always been simple, easy to learn and get into, and about showmanship. MK1/2/3 were never as deep as any Street Fighter / KoF, and MK4 certainly was no Tekken, Soul Cali, or DoA. Before DA, Boon said they were going to reinvent MK, and they did. DA is better both in overall gameplay, and "fluff" than any MK prior. Now they've taken DA to the next level, you would have to be blind to not see how far De has come.
-F.
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i didnt find the gameplay in mkda to be that bad as long as i get to do some fatalities it doesnt bother me.
and what the hells with everyone getting so offended whenever someone has something to say? as soon as someone says something negative everyone gets on their ass
is mortalkombat your mom? well alot of you act like it. you act like hes said something about your mother
maybe you dont have a mother and you think mortal kombat can fill that void in your life and thats why when people say something bad about her "mortalkombat" you go off the handle if thats why then yeah i can see why you act the way you do and im sorry but really can there be that many people in here who dont have a mother? i think not
and what the hells with everyone getting so offended whenever someone has something to say? as soon as someone says something negative everyone gets on their ass
is mortalkombat your mom? well alot of you act like it. you act like hes said something about your mother
maybe you dont have a mother and you think mortal kombat can fill that void in your life and thats why when people say something bad about her "mortalkombat" you go off the handle if thats why then yeah i can see why you act the way you do and im sorry but really can there be that many people in here who dont have a mother? i think not
| SpeedRacer Wrote: i didnt find the gameplay in mkda to be that bad as long as i get to do some fatalities it doesnt bother me. and what the hells with everyone getting so offended whenever someone has something to say? as soon as someone says something negative everyone gets on their ass is mortalkombat your mom? well alot of you act like it. you act like hes said something about your mother maybe you dont have a mother and you think mortal kombat can fill that void in your life and thats why when people say something bad about her "mortalkombat" you go off the handle if thats why then yeah i can see why you act the way you do and im sorry but really can there be that many people in here who dont have a mother? i think not |
That was a really fucking stupid analogy comparing MK to someone's mother.
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