In a way, I am not completely thrilled about MKD if it plays almost the same as MKDA. If it plays like MK1-MKG, then I'll be pumped up a little more. So far, we are all sure it plays like MKDA so I'm not thrilled about that idea, or the game.

trynax.. mkg was the worst imo gameplay of them all... mk:da was better.. and it was great.. i don't know what ppl say it wasn't good.. allwell they added more chars and new fatals... and even rearaged the gameplay.. but they didn't start from scratch.. because there working on the same sys mk:da was on.. and give them a break.. this is there 2nd try at a 3d game... tekken and virtual fighter had much more exp. with that and thats why there so good..

I agree that this is a place for stating opinions, and thats good that you have one. The only thing is, from what you have said, the only MK game you dislike is MK:DA. So why be so quick to dismiss this one? Okay it seems alot like it, but if it is a superior version, then it may change your mind. Also, i love the fact is it giving us some obscure or unusual characters this time around...making it a bit different to the usual lot.
My opinion is don't knock it till you have tried it, and i cant wait to play this game!

From what I've seen so far I just think meh, another MK, an upgrade of the previous version, slightly better graphics, slightly better characters and 2 pointless extra modes that have no effect on the main game or storyline.

Aload of different things for the end of the fight hari-kari's, fatalities and stage fatalities, but hardly anything for the beggining and middle parts of the fight, what? did everyone making the game forget they were part of the game of something???

Then there's the main game itself, still boasting about the whole 3 style thing, as if it's never been done before.

For me, I'm not looking forward to Deception because of the MK series or what it's done in the past, but the dissapointment of the lack of new things to make it a better game, I see new modes, and new this and new that, but all I've seen is more and more evidence to prove that they're trying to turn MK into a 3D version of Midway arcade treasures.

The main game itself has no replay value except to view the endings again, and if they make a theatre mode like MK4 then even that idea will be useless.

Then there's playing online, which has no tournys or anything, meaning you can playing strangers instead of mates at either a super puzzle fighter with fatalities rip-off, MK themed chess, or a vs mode of the main game.

Just another fighting game off the assembly line, oh well maybe something will be done with MK7, I'll still buy it though, but only because of being a loyal MK fan, not because of the quality of the game.

I don't know whether future MK's will be better though. I'm just thinking from the point of view that you have a fighter just coming into the 3D world, created by people famous for 2D games, if they continue following a 2D route like they seem to be now, then what's there to say that they won't repeat these 2D ideas in a 3D fighter, therefore preventing the series from improving in the ways iot should, and up to now hasn't.

Alpha_Q_Up... ud rather get nothing at all instead of MKD???

MKDA system wasn't good due to the fact that most of the moves were useless... pick one or two combos, know when to block and sidestep and you've got the game down. Konquest, though time consuming, was very easy. The combos weren't hard, after the first hit, they were guaranteed!... Your options compared to other fighting games (DOA3, SC2, etc) are small. You can call those button smashers if you want, but all the moves have a purpose, and if you posess any skill you can smoke a button smasher in a few seconds.
MKD needs a total revamp of its fighting system or at least give all the moves a purpose as a set up or leading into a combo or something. Combo breakers, stage weapons, and ring outs will add something into the mix, but despite the gore, MKDA wasn't that great of a fighting game GAMEPLAY wise... the characters, story, and projectiles were cool, projectiles were okay... some need to go old school, which they are doing in MKD with Scorpion's teleport and some other moves. I'm not looking forward to MKD's gameplay, but I'll buy it, beat it, and play the new modes, but I won't be challenging my friends to fight me all that often... feel dirty using glitches to win my matches....later

MajinTsung Wrote: MKDA system wasn't good due to the fact that most of the moves were useless... pick one or two combos, know when to block and sidestep and you've got the game down. Konquest, though time consuming, was very easy. The combos weren't hard, after the first hit, they were guaranteed!... Your options compared to other fighting games (DOA3, SC2, etc) are small. You can call those button smashers if you want, but all the moves have a purpose, and if you posess any skill you can smoke a button smasher in a few seconds. MKD needs a total revamp of its fighting system or at least give all the moves a purpose as a set up or leading into a combo or something. Combo breakers, stage weapons, and ring outs will add something into the mix, but despite the gore, MKDA wasn't that great of a fighting game GAMEPLAY wise... the characters, story, and projectiles were cool, projectiles were okay... some need to go old school, which they are doing in MKD with Scorpion's teleport and some other moves. I'm not looking forward to MKD's gameplay, but I'll buy it, beat it, and play the new modes, but I won't be challenging my friends to fight me all that often... feel dirty using glitches to win my matches....later

thank u, thats a very astute way of putting things. i am a HUGE MK fan but i just didnt like the gameplay for DA, and considering that it didnt have all the fun litte diversions (fatalities and such) it just wasnt very fun to play. Deception is a step in the right dirrection(soem improvements, and the mini games look fun), but it will still NEVER be as fun as Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter, or Smash Bros (anyone who thinks that smash bros isnt a deep fighting game is welcome to PM me and i'll send u some links to some tourney vids that will cause ur jaw to drop) because the new MK's fighting system sucks. i'm not talking about the xtras (fatalities, konquest, mini games whatever) i mean the CORE gameplay ISNT fun. Boon said that they did all the extras first and NOW they working on perfecting the fighting system, i think thats retarded. they should have done the kombat FIRST and THEN worried about extra because thats all they are, EXTRAS! i dont care HOW MUCH extra crap a game has, if the core gameplay isnt fun or deep, then why bother playing the core game at all? just 1 of the characters in soul calibur has twice the depth of a "3-styled" character in MK, thats not an opionion, or an assumption, thats a FACT and any objective and intelligent fan of fighting games knows this.

i love the MK series to death but i just wish it would drop this fascade of trying to become an "elite" or "serious" fighter, because its NOT its Mortal Komabt, u rip peoples heads off in absurd killing moves (and kids, MK isnt a violent game, its a goofy violent game, go play eternal champions or weaponlord to see a violent game) and the second that MK realizes its place as a goofy fun fighting game that it was back in the street fighter days (street fighter was a deeper game then the first MK, but MK was just so damn fun because it was simple and absurd) and it changes its style the better off MK will be. i think MK is having an indentity crisis, its tryign to outgrow its roots but i cant quite make it to where the "big boys" r playing, but it doesnt NEED to! i dont always want to play a super deep fighter, sometiems i just wanna throw on a simpler game with HP HK LP LK and chuch spears at people IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK?! :PPPPPPP

MK:DA = Badass fighting engine, Graphics.

MK:DA = Improve fighting engine, Stage fatalities, 2 fatalities per person, O N L I N E P L A Y.

I don't see how anyone could NOT be looking forward to Deception even if they liked MK:DA in the slightest.

Deception is one of the only two games I'm looking forward to the rest of the year.

Whatever...Your opinion though. But as you can tell there isn't MANY with the same as you.

Well...I guess I'm with alot of people...Because I'm definitely looking forward to MK:D....and If you do notice...the graphics SEEM the same....but they made it to a more photo-realistic character model and they do look good to me....damn good...and for people who say the game isnt deep?....what other game has fighting styles?....and 2 at that?..the only thing that levels out the playing field is that their combos can be experimented with aand you could creat your own...in SOME games that is.....and it has weapons with combos....fatalities....special moves...it may not be the most Realistic game ever...but certainly not shallow...the new characters I'm excitied about...and the return of the classics is cool...along with many unlockables and extra content.....Online play to bring back the arcade feel....new interactive and destructible enviornments....stage fatalities....death drapps and so much more will make this a great one....and as usual...i have pre*ordered it and will play the shit out of it until the next one comes out.....if you dont like it, thats on you but I'm not going 2 rip on ya 4 it...but at least give it a try b4 you decide if you do or dont like it

RRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAGH I cant stand it any longer all this negative bullshit going on!! I'm sick of hearing MKd 2.0 and its not much new, don't you people do any research, Listen at the E3 show that was only 20% of the code of the game, basiccaly its stripped down for the show, I bet you in month maybe sooner we'll start seeing vids of the 60% code and this negativity can stop,I am so sick of coming on here and seeing these stupid threads all the time, Alpha made this thread to get reaction of people cuz he likes the attention and getting people riled up, when he reads what i said he'll reply rudely, just so he can look good, basiclly i'll im saying is enogh is enough, this is one of the many reason alot of the old fans don't post here anymore cuz this board has turned into a bunch of weinners and complainers and its a Fucking mircle that i ever see a constructive thread, any ways im done, flame me if you want' i wont reply to flames, i just hope i opened some eyes.

BMF23 Wrote: Well...I guess I'm with alot of people...Because I'm definitely looking forward to MK:D....and If you do notice...the graphics SEEM the same....but they made it to a more photo-realistic character model and they do look good to me....damn good...and for people who say the game isnt deep?....what other game has fighting styles?....and 2 at that?..the only thing that levels out the playing field is that their combos can be experimented with aand you could creat your own...in SOME games that is.....and it has weapons with combos....fatalities....special moves...it may not be the most Realistic game ever...but certainly not shallow...the new characters I'm excitied about...and the return of the classics is cool...along with many unlockables and extra content.....Online play to bring back the arcade feel....new interactive and destructible enviornments....stage fatalities....death drapps and so much more will make this a great one....and as usual...i have pre*ordered it and will play the shit out of it until the next one comes out.....if you dont like it, thats on you but I'm not going 2 rip on ya 4 it...but at least give it a try b4 you decide if you do or dont like it

er right where to start, there's a lot of stuff but I'll give it a go.

Fighting styles - Different fighting styles have been used since Tekken 3 eg. Lei Wulong being able to use every animal style that has been used in MK. Each separate style Lei does has it's own advantage, longer reach with moves, faster moves, more powerful moves, longer combos.

MK uses a dial-a-combo system, which straight off puts it at a disadvantage, it's too basic to be ever considered anything average.

80% of each styles movelist is useless, in every style are 2 or 3 combos that are fast, powerful, have long reach and either finish with a pop-up or stunning the opponent, rendering other combos that can't do these a waste of time learning.

Specials??? "projectiles" as they are known are still used as if the game is still 2D, fired straight forward making them far too easy to step-side, the only time they are useful are when you are right infront of the opponent, when the whole point of projectiles are to harm an opponent when they are to far away to hit with melee or weapon attacks.

Online play has no tournaments or anything that online games have.

This means you get the joy of playing against complete strangers instead of friends at a super puzzle fighter with fatalities rip off, MK themed chess, or just a 1 vs 1 fight, none of which have any effect on the main story mode or provide a good multiplayer expierence.

Right there you go the lastest MK in a nutshell (and a big one at that ) hopefully, more time will be spend to make MK a better fighting game next time around because that is what it is, not a 3D version of Midway Arcade Treasures.

im not lookin foward to it.. i was when sektor and the livin forest were mentioned but its was all a lie.

I'm looking forward too deception and mk7 no matter what.

Jerrod Wrote: MENTHOL Wrote: what a jump cancel is, or what a run jab is.Off topic, but what are those?

GAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, The MAJORITY of MK fans don't know WTF that is and thusly know absloutely nothing about MK's gameplay.

You may think you may know but you don't.

Or....tekken uses ONE style per fighter and that was good....and they didnt have 100 combos that worked either...they had maybe 1 or 2 that did fast good damage....trying 2 string your own together meant that you were going to get your ass whooped...aka the other player would just use a preset move......and it didnt have weapons.....the SPECIALS as everyone calls them....i guess the shadow kick was a "projectile" right?...anyways.....its called a special because no other character can do it only that particular one....furthermore of being the dumbass you are....playing against people you didnt know is what the arcade was all about...you walk up and play......kinda like the ONLINE portion....but i guess thats wrong too right?....and the specials may be easy to dodge but they are there for the sake of last stitch efforts to get some damage done....more time went into the combos which even if some were useless...they were there to use....and there was quite a few of them.....not saying that they shouldnt let u create ur won...but thats the way MK is doing it so lets not cry

If u arent lookin forward to MKD, then WTF r u doin here? Y are u tryin to get people against it!?

BMF23 Wrote: Or....tekken uses ONE style per fighter and that was good....and they didnt have 100 combos that worked either...they had maybe 1 or 2 that did fast good damage....trying 2 string your own together meant that you were going to get your ass whooped...aka the other player would just use a preset move......and it didnt have weapons.....the SPECIALS as everyone calls them....i guess the shadow kick was a "projectile" right?...anyways.....its called a special because no other character can do it only that particular one....furthermore of being the dumbass you are....playing against people you didnt know is what the arcade was all about...you walk up and play......kinda like the ONLINE portion....but i guess thats wrong too right?....and the specials may be easy to dodge but they are there for the sake of last stitch efforts to get some damage done....more time went into the combos which even if some were useless...they were there to use....and there was quite a few of them.....not saying that they shouldnt let u create ur won...but thats the way MK is doing it so lets not cry

That shadow kick that sends the user sliding forward will be as easy to step-side in 3D as projectiles are, so it's just as useless.

Your lack of knowledge and false accusations of Tekken is something I'm just going to ignore.

The thing arcades and playing against friends has in common was the interactivity you had with the person you were playing against, it didn't matter whether you knew the person or not it was the fact that you could see them, that was the point mentioning that, the whole point of the online part was to go through the modes, if you don't understand what's being said don't bother replying.

There's no point of havin a lot of bad combos compared to having a few good ones.

EdenianNinja Wrote: If u arent lookin forward to MKD, then WTF r u doin here? Y are u tryin to get people against it!?

MK fans are MK fans whether people like the current version or not, I said that back on the 1st page.

lol im guessing ur the tekken master now huh?....the shadow kick Definitely worked you prlly just suck at the game and you cant think of anything but old excuses....maybe one day you will know what your talkin about until then.....no more talking!

You have to be kidding me....

Seems just as soon as the ignorant peeps realize how wrong they are, a new group enters the forum. It's a never ending cycle!

MENTHOL Wrote: You have to be kidding me.... Seems just as soon as the ignorant peeps realize how wrong they are, a new group enters the forum. It's a never ending cycle!

They won't leave us alone, why?

I admit I think of myself pretty highly as a Tekken player I don't get beat often by friends, but maybe that's because they're crap and I'm not much better, but I've always hold on to the fact that I have no problem beatin ultra hard mode team battle as Jin and Kazuya (TTT and T4, soon T5 ) which for those who don't know is against 8 characters, using my two

I'll tell you what, you try that shadow kick on me , I'll side-step it and do a nice combo on you, sounds fun to me.

lol its called block...and no matter how good you Think you are...you will never be half of what I am...you are just some guy who no one cares about no one knows who you are ur just some guy trying 2 seem cool on the internet.....mortal kombat is cool...no matter what.....and just becuz thats takes up ur whole day....i actually have what we like 2 call a "LIFE" and i'd still whoop ur ass

sorry i havent visited the site 8000 times....that doesnt make me less of a fan than you.....you just have too much time on your hands...and for the other guy...who the hell are you? and why do i care?

BMF23 Wrote: lol its called block...and no matter how good you Think you are...you will never be half of what I am...you are just some guy who no one cares about no one knows who you are ur just some guy trying 2 seem cool on the internet.....mortal kombat is cool...no matter what.....and just becuz thats takes up ur whole day....i actually have what we like 2 call a "LIFE" and i'd still whoop ur ass

Are you kidding me? LMAO!

How old are you? Jesus... These guys must come from gamefaqs or something.