well, in marvel nemesis: rise of the imperfects, wolverine's finisher involves him stabbing the shit out of the enemy, and that's a t rated game.

I think if mk just had baraka stabbing someone several times and throwing them to the ground with minimal blood it could be acceptable

yeah but did you see his blades go throu or just in? barakas blades are a bit bigger so you would have to see them comming out the other side of the player or it will look like he is just poking them with the tips of his blades

You see his blades go through but it looks like some sort of clipping bug rather than a finishing move.

i guess i would prefer to have baraka with a dodgy fatality rather then no baraka at all

Where do you even see Baraka at all?

Baraka probably won't have to worry about that, given that he probably won't make the cut.

agreed

Sadly, our Baraky gonna have to dis-sharpen his blades for this game.

Here's some of the Marvel: Rise of the imperfect finishers. I see a lot of impaling.....

Marvel finishers

... if Marvel DOES allow their characters to be killed off in such a grusome manner... why didn't Midway do a crossover with THEM?...

Because they just didn't. Do you guys have to whine so much about this? Seriously, I understand that fatalities are the best part of Mortal Kombat, but guess what, it's not going to be seen in this game, so just relax. The concept isn't totally destroyed and not to mention that there will be more MK games in the future.

You all just need to stop acting that one little change isn't going to destory an entire corporation. Becuase if it did, that would be humiliating in ways I cannot describe. But seriously, stop whining over a little change.

I'm sure stabbing lift will be fine

If he makes the cut.

We whine because we care. Do you seriously think that GTA fans would remain silent if they got rid of carjacking from the game? Do you think Metal Gear fans would be content if they removed the stealth elements? Can you even picture a Street Fighter without a fireball? Or how about a Zelda game without puzzles or sword combat?

Now, in the hands of a talented developer, a game franchise CAN exist without its "trademarks". Resident Evil 4 was the first RE without the typical trademark "zombies", item boxes, and tank controls, and we all know how much of a success it was. But I have my doubts about a MK game (well, not a MK-related game at any rate) doing phenomenally well without its trademarks. Let's be honest here; MK without its gore would have been a forgotten Street Fighter clone. The gore was its hook; it was what got people's attention. Before anyone put a quarter into a machine, they saw Scorpion knocking gallons of crimson from Sub-Zero's body. I remember it. I stopped and said "that's awesome!" And here I am an MK fan more than a decade later.

The "hook" of this game is the crossover element. That could be a good thing. I don't know yet. I don't know enough to judge the game, and I have NOT said the game will be a failure, or even a bad game. All I said in the above post was the MK vs. DC COULD pull off finisher moves, even killing moves, get a T-rating, just like Marvel: Rise of the Imperfects, but supposedly DC won't allow them, while Marvel apparently didn't have too many problems with it. Not a criticism of either, just something to mull over and think about.

The examples you gave me made no sense. GTA would never get rid of carjacking, even if it was just being said in an example, because it's in its own title. RE4 may not have zombies, but they had creatures related to monsters. It's not just zombies featured in that game.

So what if MK doesn't have ONE tredmark. There's still blood in the game, they didn't get rid of that. So what if it's not too much blood being shown, but you don't know that. We only have trailer to see that, and it's not even a good one.

Like stated in so many threads, why do you guys judge so much by one trailer. No one knows who's in the fucking game for heaven's sake. And you guys judge the game when there's no other movie clips showing more of the game, why do you have doubts on something with little info? You guys make no sense. And I'm not being mean here at all, but it's stupid to judge this game with little info, and I'm sure people on this site who are actually excited for the game, are getting tired of telling you fast judging fans to stop judging the game so quickly before more news comes out.

Why can't you guys just stop?

This is the kind of thing they would put into consideration. Since the game will be rated T and Baraka is all for tearing people apart with his blades... seems pretty clear the MK team won't add him just for that factor alone.

I doubt that Baraka will be in the game. He's among my favs but there's more iconic characters than him.

Why do we judge? Why can't we stop? Why do we complain?

Because some of us are burned out on mediocre MK games. Some of us are tired of company hype that fails to deliver. Some of us are tired of gimmicks used to cover up poor gameplay. Some of us are tired of uninspired characters, lackluster storylines, cheap production values, and glitchy combat. Some of us aren't asking for something better, we're DEMANDING something better. This new game may be that game, but nothing released so far, which admittably is very little, has made me believe this will be the current-gen Renaissance for this venerable, if inconsistent, franchise.

The fact that I do "whine" so much, that I critique every render, analyze every scrap of footage, is a testament to my loyalty to this franchise and to the other fans who follow this game. I WANT this game to be amazing. I'm not looking for an opportunity to bring the game down, but rather looking for places where the game could shine and improve. I've done the same thing with other franchise I love, from Silent Hill to Zelda. But I'm at a point, as I'm sure many other gamers are as well, where being "good" is no longer good enough. Games and game systems are far too expensive, and my budget far too limited, to warrant any unncessary purchases, and I want to get as much bang for my buck as I can. I'm the consumer. I pay for this product, and I want it to be amazing. I want this next MK game to be the greatest MK game ever. I want it to be the greatest fighting game ever.

That is what the development team SHOULD aspire to do. If they don't have that mindset, and they're just making "another MK game", then of course it won't measure up.

A big issue here, and why I take all this so personally, is that I'm studying to be a game developer myself. I'm studying character modeling, animation, programming, and all that stuff so that I can make GREAT games. I hold myself to that level of integrity that if I wouldn't dare release anything underwhelming. As a fan, I expect a lot, but as a modeller, I expect more. I want to look at these renders, character models, and animations, and I want to be envious. I want to wish I was that good. As it stand, that hasn't happened. From the footage I've seen, animations are stiff and robotic, as they've always been, characters are low-resolution, and I've seen nothing of any real "refined" combat. "Falling combat" is not refined combat, it is a gimmick (albeit perhaps a good one.)

I want to be amazed by this game, gore be damned. There has to be a very real reason why my excitement and enthusiasm for this game went from passionate anticipation to trepid fear to bitter anger to calm indifference. And that has nothing to do with the gore.

Yet the problem is... it's just a game. Nothing more, but a mere game.

And yet my entire career is based around creating "mere games". To some, such as yourself, it is a hobby; to me, it's become my life's purpose. I should have stayed in Med School...

Baraka will make the cut and will have a brutal and gruesome finisher, but with the only small difference, that his blades will be replaced with feathers..

Yep, to me it's just a hobby, nothing more but a hobby.

I hear Scorpion's spear has a soft, foam-rubber ball at the end now to prevent anyone from getting stabbed. In the truest sense, he has been "nerfed".

Well... Yeah, I spoke to him, and not surprisingly, he was pretty upset.
It's actually not the violence that's bothering him per se, so much as the implication. He feels like the decision to make a T rated game is a deliberate slight to him because of the nature of his... condition.

Thing is, after appearing in Deception and Armageddon, he thought he'd finally reconciled with the team after they'd left him out of every major release post-MKII. I mean, sure. He was eager to come back for the Gold and Trilogy redux games, but he felt he should've been given a more important role. Look, let's be honest, he's still angling for king of mutants and to be taken seriously as a character.

So, yeah. I think the violence thing has just stirred up a lot of emotions and he's not doing so great. He feels betrayed and ostracized for something he can't change. He has twelve inch blades sticking out of his forearms. Why should he have to change? That's what I ask! Why can't we all just accept him for the mutant he is?! Bastards!



Wow. How poetic! Usually the beauty of terms like 'nerfed' is that they have contextual meaning without blatantly referring to the word's origins. How delicate of you! Hhhhaaannk.

Simple lol, he won't be in it

He can fight without his blades though if he wanted.