Tekken 6 pwns all the games you talked about thats why you didnt say anything negative about it because you CANT but ultimately MK is not FUN to play and yes the last game burst limit is FUN and is not a unplayable stiff piece of crap like recent mk games.

The only thing that I like in MK is the story which is one of the best out there but when you get into details its kinda corny but is still cool with very appealing chars that are just lovable at first site like scorp and sub also your taliking about how DBZ games keep getting worse?

Mk games just keep getting worse and worse and the only thing that is keeping it alive is its fanboys and people who grew up with the MK series also you were talking about how Dbz doesnt change anything the only thing MK is changing is STORY and it is starting to get even cornier the story is always changing we dont know who wins the tournament and what the real out come is yeah we get everybodies story but who really one the tournament? and what happened? and new chars what has MK changed in recent games NOTHING!!!!!!! also nobody really dies they all come back which makes the stoery unappealing for example you see that one of your fav chars die you wont be affected you would go oh yeah HEL BE BACK!!!!!! ALL THE DEVOLPERS DO IS GIVE US CRAPPY PROMISES.

Tekken 6 is said to be one of the worst Tekken's by the actual players just so you know....there's quite a few Tekken fans on here that hate the changes. Believe me I can say bad things about Tekken, no online play until recently, same engine over the years that's barely unchanged as oppose to SF/MK that have experimented with "changes" over the years to keep the series fresh at least. Bad character design, shitty storyline I can go on and on...

MK is very fun actually if you're into it, just like everyone else here has a preference of fighting games. ALL have ups and downs..fact.

DBZ games as oppose to MK, SF, Tekken, VF and DOA can't match them in terms of overall popularity, sales or competitive seen. Like I said man, you go online right now you'll find any of those games with ease except for GT the PSX game that was actually not too bad.

I don't see how MK games get worse and worse when they still sell well, MK:SM was a bad game? lol that's pretty recent, that game owned.

MK:DA was good, MKD had flaws and glitches but at least brought back Ermac, Sindel some nostalgic characters with sick revamped design.

MKA just gets ranted on for the dumbest reasons honestly, being a player of high level and online player, plus actually understanding the flaws and what works and doesn't work i can say that easily.

MK is about Magic, gods etc so someone dying and coming back makes perfect sense speaking as how other fighters have NO gods, sorcerers etc and speaking as how that's supernatural and can resurrect the dead it makes perfect sense and the storyline is still good, but also ended so those fans that bitch forever can perhaps shut up now. Until they find something ridiculous in MK9.....

You make good, strong points in your argument. Nice.

I agree mostly on the part where you're talking about Dragon Ball Z.

Foolish Anime cartoons cannot withstand the things that are happening in Mortal Kombat, nor will they ever. Otherwise, the only thing you will be hearing in an MK vs. DBZ game is "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh raahhhhhhhhhhh saaaaaaaaaaaa" That get's annoying. Grunts are fine, screaming for no reason is annoying.

-- For the record I do not watch these pathetic anime cartoons, as for the fact that they damage brain cells. I saw an episode at my cousin's house and mocked him for the rest of the day for watching a senseless cartoon.

And for the person you are arguing with, MK has not gotten worse. The only bad game I will ever say that Midway created was Special Forces. Special Forces sucked. Though if they're games continued to get worse, I doubt that they would still be around. Take a look at other video game compainies that their games got worse and worse. Take a look at the companies that created a poor rip-off game called Bloodstorm. And that my friend will show you what worse and worse means. Midway, obviously doesn't have that problem.

Mks recent games havent recieved any SIGNIFICANT change its so stiff and unplayble and I know ALOT of people who cant even play Mk when they here some one bring it up they laugh the only game that I REALLY love is SM its a game that I really enjoyed and I hope they make a new one.

Other Mk games are just more of the same with different stories and added chars the gameplay never really changes you cant even start comparing it to Tekken which is one of the best fighting games out there.

Please tell me what they changed in the past games that really feels like a big change NOTHING!!! just more of the same CRAP boring gameplay and as I said it sells because their are blind fanboys that just love their scorpion and sub zero TOO much to care about gameplay mechanics.

Dont misunderstand me I love the MK series and hope the best for it but theses last few games are dissapointing I really hope that they get the gameplay right this time. If I didnt care I wouldnt talk about the negative points I just desperately want a good Mk game that could remind me of my childhood playing MK 1.2 & 3.

Same can be said about Tekken and VF games man, like I said before at least MK and SF changes the style here and there to keep things fresh. The older MK's of course will never be forgotten but that can be said for a lot of games, SF, VF and SC.

lol I don't see how the gameplay is boring, perhaps you should really check and look into Check's vids on here. PM him and he'll explain the differences more vividly but there are some. As let's see here MKA for one is faster paced then the previous two, there's jumping which automatically makes you feel more free and able to get away. There's parries, wake ups added to help with gameplay(which MK:DA or MKD didn't have) every character and a close to one storyline finally....

There's your differences, ohh and the KAK system. KAF system didn't appeal to much of anyone but other then the Fatalities system I didn't see much problems with it honestly. Most were dumb reasons like half the rants on here like "costumes" a bio or a stage...please, those are trivial reasons to hate on a game.

Actually, the older MK's can easily be compared to Tekken, SF etc. Because for one Tekken has always been 3D, if they attempted 2D they'd suck which is why they stick to 3D because obviously they're afraid of "failure" which happens anyway sometimes. Look at MK, SF....yet they survived, I rest my case...

All they need to do is fix the glitches and since the past 3 MK games had tons of styles, that was bound to happen. They ditched the multiple styles so it's like the older MK's now with just one style. That alone will make the gameplay a lot better and a hell of a lot less broken or glitchy. MKA got rid of a lot of MKD's problems that's why I have confidence in Midway/DC with MK8 honestly.

@Icebaby, glad you agree. Well said.

*sigh* Major case of fanboyism. Why bother.

*sighs* major case of pointless ranting and hating...why bother indeed

EA owns the rights to Marvel videogames.

Tekken is the same thing for 10 years ..Iam getting sick of it .
VF no story bad charcters the same movments for 12 years .
DBZ give me a break ..please every new game is just an updated version of the last one
Soul Calibur : good but not good enough ..

MK : is the best although some steps back .I really enjoy playing it as it is a very classic game .

First of all tekken has not been the same thing for 12 years its gotten better and with some cool changes but ultimately the fighting mechanics are the same and is not a problem because all fans love it but IYO. Virtua fighter is a not a story based game if you want a story go read a book!!!I actually never liked VF the gameplay wasnt that fun.

When you say that all dbz games are a updated version of the other games in the series their you goo you said it your self UPDATED thats what mk lacks UPDATES that CHANGE gameplay what the hell do you want them to do NOT update the game like boon and his friends you made laugh when you said that all they do is update it :). SC is agood game which plays good.

My final point is that if MK started with mk 4 and had a different story it would be a big epic FAIL!!!!!!!

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Cool changes huh ???
The same fucken things , even the same stupid clothes for the charcters .Also the people are hating Tekken 6 for this moment because they just knew that Namco is a lazy CO .

You are only 14 years old .We played MK before you were born .How can a young kid like you know anything about MK .....


Min zenk ya bin almushradeen ya shrmoot ze kull ahlak ....

He doesn't need to be 50 years old to know that the current MK games are just bad. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that. Of course it's hard to see with fanboy glasses on.

Tekken, it might play exactly the same for you with every new release, but the changes are there. Though they are mostly minor tweaks. Why would a major overhaul be needed, when the game already plays solid enough? That'd be stupid.

Same thing goes for any other fighting games.


Some of you also comment how Midway has the guts to try new things. Too bad though that all of their attempts to try something new just horribly fail. So, MK's got parries and wake-ups, all which are horrible executed compared to games like Tekken. Having something and doing it right, are two completely different things.

And what the hell has Namco supposedly sucking at 2D games to do with anything? Can we lay off these feeble attempts to try to distract from Midway's inability to develop a decent fighting system? Namco isn't the one here that has to prove itself.


Also, nice how you guys really can't comment on DBZ as a fighting game at all. All you're able to do is to insult anime in general. It's really amusing, please continue.

Both of you dont need to be 100 years old to know that it is all about what do you like ...
MK:DA ,MK:D and MK:A were the best games I pay money for in ten years .I cant even describe how I spent my first monthes for each .those games spent most of their time inside the PS2 while tI gave (Tekken , SC,VF and ST ) to friends ..
I as player for more than 12 years think that MK is the best fighting game ever made .
You on the other hand think that Tekken or DBZ is the best .
It is all matter of taste .

For both of you :
It is really foolish to rant a game in its biggest forum .We are the fans will take your rants as insulting .

I dont like anime but I dont insult it at all as I respect its fans .

I'm not just here for rantings sake. I hope that MK manages to be acknowledged as a good fighter that can hold his own with the likes of Tekken and VF. If I wouldn't care about the franchise, I wouldn't be here in the first place.

You may be happy with what Midway churned out the last 3 times. But MK could be so much better. It should be so much better. Boon is apparently a fan of other big fighting games, so I'll never understand why he doesn't take some notes from them.

First of all MKA's implements DO work for those here that are ignorant to that. I know darn well because I unlike most on here actually play the game at high level ONLINE. I've played MK2, UMK3, MK:DA, MKD and MKA at high level so I can tell those "haters or ignorant people" right now that yes MKD did have problems, and due to the glitchyness can't be playable that much at high level however, MKA can and that's a fact.

Who gives a shit if MKA's wake ups and parries "are exactly like Tekken" Tekken isn't MK, or any other fighting game for that matter. This is an MK site, not a Tekken site.... It DOES work btw, so you're wrong for the people saying it doesn't. If you disagree play me some night on xbox and I'll literally prove you wrong myself......

Also, I love it how some people act as if Namco never failed lol. SC3 anyone? Tekken 6? yeah....even the "great Namco isn't perfect" so before you guys take shots at Midway, Capcom just note they're survived longer then Namco has any obstables thrown their way and have been around before Tekken was even a thought, which is btw as nobody wants to admit a rip off of VF anyway....just with a Tekken badge. So, yes I do and will give Midway and Capcom more credit because although some of their games have failed, more have succeeded over the years. Namco again, I'll say it if they're soo "talented" let's see them make a good 2D game like SF and MK did. They're obviously afraid to, thus why they haven't and stick to the same boring shit year after year.

I totally agree with ErmaSco, thank you God for someone paying attention. lol Tekken is the same shit over and over and over...with slight improvements, T6 finally decided to alter some gameplay implements and is taking some heat for it but personally I commend Namco for finally trying something new. I mean, obviously the Tekken fans like the same thing over and over despite how it compares to some other fighting games in general but come on? Characters suck, story sucks, creativity sucks, no online play until recently for Tekken, shitty mini games at least MK has had good ones and is also PS exclusive which IMO sucks. If it were "so great" then the other consoles would be chomping at the bit to try to get at least one Tekken title onto their console like Xbox did with some of other sony's "former exclusives, GTA, MGS to name a few"

AS for DBZ, ok..seriously anyone that even compares that to any fighting game needs a reality check, they all SUCK except for GT, nuff said. Later






Exactly, well said man. I'm with ya 100%, I'm also getting tired of some of these dumb, pointless rants. Most of which people have no idea what they're talking about.

If someone wants to like Tekken, VF whatever...fine but please don't talk nonsense about MK if you don't know what you're talking about....people on here obviously have no idea how huge MK2, UMK3, MK:SM and MK:DA STILL is to this day. Yet some people insist on judging MK series based off the last game...

Tekken and Virtua Fighter have boring characters and story, but great gameplay.

MK has cool characters and story, but shitty gameplay.

End of discussion.

Stories could be more involving, but I'd disagree about the quality of characters. Especially for Tekken, that's developed it's list with a much lower miss rate than MK's expansions.

I share the disagreement boat with Mick, but totally different reason. MK actually has good or should I say "better" gameplay in certain MK games much better then some of the recent games. Fact. MK2, UMK3, MK:DA all played great and are among the most balanced, playable MK's. And although it was short lived, MK4 at one point had a little competitive scene but didn't last as long as the other MKs. MKA even isn't that bad.

Your 2D comments still make no freaking sense whatsoever. Why would they have to show to be able to make a 2D game? Seriously, you're just grasping for excuses.

And neither do your "MKA's gameplay don't work" comments....

No, I'm actually speaking off fact and from my own experience playing at high level...perhaps you just don't understand what I'm saying obviously. It's obvious, Namco has always been 3D and most likely always will be.

First of all they did change the COSTUMES my friend that just shows that your a big FANBOY that does not know what he is talking about and im not fourteen yal 5aneeth ana abook. I played all the MKS the time they came out in arcades and on consoles so please do not talk shit I think your the little kid and as nathan said I dont need to be 50 years old to know that mk has CRAP gameplay lol you say you have been playing mk before I was born comment is funny you obviously whatch alot of movies(wayed etal3 mbc ACTION)

And just face it the last DBZ game burst limit plays better than all of the RECENT mk games, and for the guy that said that tekken has a bad story and good gameplay and mk has a good story and bad gameplay I totally agree with you except for tekken having a bad story lol but theses fanboys want face that their game is inferior compared to other fighting games. Like I said before they like their scorpion and sub-zero too much to care about gameplay }}}}} fanboys!!!!!!

Someone might want to add that the Marvel trademark is DAMN expensive. I was even a bit surprised Midway purchased DC's, but Marvel?

It was easier to get marvel characters in your game 8 years ago when there wasn't multiple comic book blockbusters coming out every year. Hollywood has been flooded with Marvel entertainment every since the X-Men and Spiderman films, and Marvel did what evert business should do: base their price on the demand.

You think Capcom lost interest in making Marvel vs. Capcom 3? They would have been crazy not to! But Marvel wouldn't keep the contract going at what they were being offered.

Defending MK's gameplay is like pissing into the wind.
Nine times out of ten you're going to look like and stink like a moron.

MKDA definitely had it's charms and MKA was not as bad as Deception, but with the 3D games all they seemed to do was invent a new tradition of inconsistency. If they'd built on what was established in Deadly Alliance and applied more logic to the motivation and individuality of fighting styles, there'd be much less argument.

Stagnancy's usually the argument against Tekken, but MK plays constant catch-up to series like Tekken because they've refined their system through attention to character, and haven't tried to gratuitously reinvent the wheel.
The expectation for constant reinvention strikes me as one of the many peculiarities of the MK fanbase.

Yeah...slightly lol it's nothing compared to MK's or SF's costume changes over the years though. Actually, chances are I'm older then most in this thread and was around before MK1 started thanks anyway but you're wrong Who said anything about 50 year olds? lol I love it how you generalize "older mature players" as 50 year olds.......anyone that thinks every MK game has crap gameplay is just dumb or seriously ignorant.

DBZ is garbage please.... Not really...you see speaking as how those MK games I listed CAN and ARE played at high level, you'll find tons more like me telling you guys why the gameplay is good....but of course most people on here have no clue about that and just spurt out bs like "all MK's have disappointing gameplay" no, no that's ignorance or just plain stupidity right there. I even said the newer ones had problems and aren't as good as the older MK's but seriously, I know when I see some nonsense posted about MK's gameplay. In the 3D MK's, It's like this MK:DA>MK:A>>>>>>>>MK:D in terms of gameplay. All they needed to do actually was give MK team more time to find all the glitches, which they fixed a lot of in MKA as oppose to MKD's problems. It's like I said before, as far as 3d fighters go Tekken is among the best, actually VF is better...and Tekken stole from them but whatever, they've never gone 2D like SF, MK and others have over the years. They're afraid of change.....

Ever heard of exaggeration? Anyway, stop bringing the age issue into this. Just because someone is older, it doesn't make their opinions any more valid than others.



Good thing then that we're talking the entire time about the current-gen games of MK. No one here said anything about MK I-III.



And here we go again with your nonsense comments. What does it have anything do with with being afraid of change? Why should they make 2D games when they already have a very successful 3D franchise? It would make no sense. Especially the fans would think "WTF?!"