Can subzero freeze bosses
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posted07/14/2006 05:23 PM (UTC)by
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ddogice
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07/12/2006 03:31 AM (UTC)
can subzero freeze bosses like shaokahn kintaro etc
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Ermac_rain
07/12/2006 03:26 PM (UTC)
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Good question man, i hope that we will be able to freeze Onaga etc, but that is why they are bosses, tyhey are Immune to sth wink
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Rudolph
07/12/2006 03:26 PM (UTC)
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Since they're being balanced out(except Blaze.) They can be frozen as they will be treated as normal characters.
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07/12/2006 03:29 PM (UTC)
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Rudolph Wrote:
Since they're being balanced out(except Blaze.) They can be frozen as they will be treated as normal characters.

I'd think so as well. Not sure about deception for fag-cube, but I would think Shao and Goro could be frozen or vulnerable to any free hit specials.
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07/12/2006 03:31 PM (UTC)
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ddogice
07/12/2006 03:42 PM (UTC)
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thanx dudewink
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07/12/2006 03:45 PM (UTC)
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That's nothing new, though. Shao Kahn, Goro, and Kintaro were always affected by Sub-Zero's Ice Blast; Motaro, Moloch, and Onaga are immune, and odds are will remain immune to it.
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Ermac_rain
07/12/2006 03:48 PM (UTC)
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dibula Wrote:
http://www.davesmk.com/images/mka/e3/screens/015.jpg
it sure looks like it

That is Shao Kahn, his structure is like a human, but buffer and bigger, so that is easy to make him freeze. But Kintaro, Onaga and Motaro don't have that Humanoid structure, so I think they won't be able to be freezed sad
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07/12/2006 03:50 PM (UTC)
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Jerrod Wrote:

That's nothing new, though. Shao Kahn, Goro, and Kintaro were always affected by Sub-Zero's Ice Blast; Motaro, Moloch, and Onaga are immune, and odds are will remain immune to it.

Agreed. Blaze should be immune, because hell, the Fire God was immune to it in MKM. It just makes sense.
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Keith
07/12/2006 03:58 PM (UTC)
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Blaze should be the only character immune to the Freeze. It's useless enough with certain characters being totally immune to it
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07/12/2006 04:05 PM (UTC)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sin77MndnM&search=TMK
another not new thing but if scorpions spear works sub zeros freeze should. its scorpion versus goro btw
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07/12/2006 04:15 PM (UTC)
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Ermac_rain Wrote:
dibula Wrote:
http://www.davesmk.com/images/mka/e3/screens/015.jpg
it sure looks like it

That is Shao Kahn, his structure is like a human, but buffer and bigger, so that is easy to make him freeze. But Kintaro, Onaga and Motaro don't have that Humanoid structure, so I think they won't be able to be freezed sad

How does shape influence freezing? To my knowledge it does not.
Funny fact. To be able to instantly cryo someone with Sub-Zeros blast you would also instantly kill them. Overfreeze of that degree would be lethal.
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07/12/2006 04:19 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Ermac_rain Wrote:
dibula Wrote:
http://www.davesmk.com/images/mka/e3/screens/015.jpg
it sure looks like it

That is Shao Kahn, his structure is like a human, but buffer and bigger, so that is easy to make him freeze. But Kintaro, Onaga and Motaro don't have that Humanoid structure, so I think they won't be able to be freezed sad

How does shape influence freezing? To my knowledge it does not.
Funny fact. To be able to instantly cryo someone with Sub-Zeros blast you would also instantly kill them. Overfreeze of that degree would be lethal.

yep, and if you wil kick them, they won't get to normal, but they will be shattered in pieces.. BUT his is MK; where Realism is just a 7 word letter tongue ( i hope it stays like this tongue)
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07/12/2006 04:20 PM (UTC)
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Ermac_rain Wrote:
dibula Wrote:
http://www.davesmk.com/images/mka/e3/screens/015.jpg
it sure looks like it

That is Shao Kahn, his structure is like a human, but buffer and bigger, so that is easy to make him freeze. But Kintaro, Onaga and Motaro don't have that Humanoid structure, so I think they won't be able to be freezed sad

Goro was able to be frozen in Deception,so i dont see why Kintaro wouldn't be able to.
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07/12/2006 04:25 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:
Ermac_rain Wrote:
dibula Wrote:
http://www.davesmk.com/images/mka/e3/screens/015.jpg
it sure looks like it

That is Shao Kahn, his structure is like a human, but buffer and bigger, so that is easy to make him freeze. But Kintaro, Onaga and Motaro don't have that Humanoid structure, so I think they won't be able to be freezed sad

How does shape influence freezing? To my knowledge it does not.
Funny fact. To be able to instantly cryo someone with Sub-Zeros blast you would also instantly kill them. Overfreeze of that degree would be lethal.

Think of it as a snowball fight...TO THE EXTREME
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abomb1987
07/12/2006 04:45 PM (UTC)
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since everything is being balenced out with the boss character returning as normal playable character, they will all be able to get frozen or stunned.
but having certian character immune to the freeze is likly, if you remeber in MK:D kenshi was immune to kira's blinding dust attack since his is blind all ready. so blaze being engulfed in hot searing flames would mostly not be effected by the freeze. i see no other reason that another boss character would be immune to it.
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andrewbwm
07/12/2006 04:46 PM (UTC)
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If they want to make something useful they should just make Blaze imune to any type of stun(scorpion's spear should burn on contact for example). Onaga, Moloch and Motaru should be affected by freeze in my opinion.
Or another option that just hit me all of the stun moves would work too and sub-zero's freeze would just damage him i don't think a big fire being likes ice hits so this would make sense.
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Ninja_Mime
07/12/2006 06:15 PM (UTC)
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In the classic games, you could freeze all of the bosses besides Motaro.
In MKD, you could freeze both Kahn and Goro. They are normal characters. I don't see why people find it so hard to believe.
So in MKA, you'll be able to freeze Goro, Kahn, and Kintaro. And if they really plan on making Onaga/Motaro/Moloch balanced, you'll be able to freeze them.
There.
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Ricardo Snow
07/12/2006 07:05 PM (UTC)
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in the older games in you could but the new one ehh.... i dont notongue
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Ninja_Mime
07/12/2006 07:28 PM (UTC)
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flameshang Wrote:
in the older games in you could but the new one ehh.... i dont notongue

Read the post above you...
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07/13/2006 12:50 AM (UTC)
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yes, u could!!
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SuperT26
07/13/2006 01:24 AM (UTC)
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I'm a huge Sub-Zero fan obviously, and I think it would be bad to change how these people are played. If Onaga could not be frozen in MKD, then I think he should not be able to be frozen in MKA as well. Unless they have some way of explaining why all of a sudden he can be, it would be stupid to me.
Sub-Zero's shoulder rush did reduce health though but did not knock him across the room like other players. I hope they keep it the way it was. It would be more challenging anyway.
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Ninja_Mime
07/13/2006 01:40 AM (UTC)
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SuperT26 Wrote:
I'm a huge Sub-Zero fan obviously, and I think it would be bad to change how these people are played. If Onaga could not be frozen in MKD, then I think he should not be able to be frozen in MKA as well. Unless they have some way of explaining why all of a sudden he can be, it would be stupid to me.
Sub-Zero's shoulder rush did reduce health though but did not knock him across the room like other players. I hope they keep it the way it was. It would be more challenging anyway.

But that was Onaga when he was using Reptile's body. Now he's back into his own (More human-like) body.
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SuperT26
07/13/2006 05:47 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
SuperT26 Wrote:
I'm a huge Sub-Zero fan obviously, and I think it would be bad to change how these people are played. If Onaga could not be frozen in MKD, then I think he should not be able to be frozen in MKA as well. Unless they have some way of explaining why all of a sudden he can be, it would be stupid to me.
Sub-Zero's shoulder rush did reduce health though but did not knock him across the room like other players. I hope they keep it the way it was. It would be more challenging anyway.

But that was Onaga when he was using Reptile's body. Now he's back into his own (More human-like) body.

Not sure what you mean by "more human like body". Are you saying he would be weaker without using Reptiles body? Sorry, having trouble figuring out what you mean.
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Ninja_Mime
07/13/2006 06:39 PM (UTC)
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SuperT26 Wrote:
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
SuperT26 Wrote:
I'm a huge Sub-Zero fan obviously, and I think it would be bad to change how these people are played. If Onaga could not be frozen in MKD, then I think he should not be able to be frozen in MKA as well. Unless they have some way of explaining why all of a sudden he can be, it would be stupid to me.
Sub-Zero's shoulder rush did reduce health though but did not knock him across the room like other players. I hope they keep it the way it was. It would be more challenging anyway.

But that was Onaga when he was using Reptile's body. Now he's back into his own (More human-like) body.

Not sure what you mean by "more human like body". Are you saying he would be weaker without using Reptiles body? Sorry, having trouble figuring out what you mean.

Look at Onaga on the wallpaper render and compare him to how he was in MKD to see what I'm talking about.
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