Umm.... I think MK: Deception is basically going to beat the shit outta DOA both in gameplay and graphics.

I dont know about graphic-wise(them DoA chicks sure look real :) but in terms of gameplay MK:D
will win.

Not saying I dont respect your opinion...but why even ask?....definitely MK will be better

Shouldn't this be in general discussion??

Discuss the rumors and theories behind Mortal Kombat: Deception. hmmmm?? *scratches chin*

Dead Or Alive Online I believe is now called Dead Or Alive Ultimate. Its DOA 1 and 2, with the exception of some new backstories and online play. In terms of a fighting engine, DOA definately looks better. Everything else (story, characters, etc.) goes to Mortal Kombat. What will sell more? Deception. Dead Or Alive really lacks strong character/story concepts.

DOA is a good fighter and has a good number of fans out there but in my opinion MK:D is better...'cause is MK and i'm a big fan since the first one.MK has some mystic over it....

fear the Noob....

MK has a much bigger fanbase then DOA.


Now how much of that fanbase is on Xbox over amount of DOA fans....who knows.


I personally will pick up both, along with 4-5 other games. Weeks of 9/28-10-12 are xbox gaming bliss if you ask me.

King of Fighters 2002 and 2003 collection-10/12

Def Jam: Fight for NY-9/28

DOA: U-10/4

Capcom vs Snk: svc chaos-9/28

Robotech:Invasion-10/4

Otogi 2- 10/4

Unreal Championship2: the liandry conflict-10/12

Star Wars:battle front-9/28

now, I know not all (or even most) are xbox exclusive, but that's the only system I own.

All those coming out in the same 2-3 weeks... =-o!

Oh yes..don't forget Fable...9/13 :-d

*these dates are from Gamestop's ETA pre-sale dates, they may change*

Haha, got a job, out of school...Nothing I want now, when I turn 18 and get a Credit Card, I'm ordering most-all of the above titles and paying off right away to slowly build me some credit...and have a kick ass Q4 gaming collection.


Alex~Vab

Shouldn't this be in general discussion??

Discuss the rumors and theories behind Mortal Kombat: Deception. hmmmm?? *scratches chin*

WRDLFE21 Wrote: Shouldn't this be in general discussion?? Discuss the rumors and theories behind Mortal Kombat: Deception. hmmmm?? *scratches chin*

This thread stays right here..because it discusses about MK:Deception. Cmon, if you look in the general discussion youll see a wrestling thread, a final fantasy thread, even a spiderman 2 thread, so whats that got to do with Mortal Kombat? This thread stays.

my bad dude i can admitt to my mistakes still cool?

WRDLFE21 Wrote: my bad dude i can admitt to my mistakes still cool?

Yep. Always cool. I just thinks it funny how people come onto a Mortal Kombat site and talk about wrestling or their first date. Unless their first date ends up turning into a fatality..i dont recommend it being on the general discussion.
Now if they had a "MK General Discussion" and a "General Discussion" it would be different. You see what im saying?

yeah i get ya. I got like 415 some visits and i still get dizzy thinking of allllll the stuff here u know but yeah most of the time u can post something broad(spelling?) and it would be considered SPAM and gets closed. So yeah I get ya pal.

yeah i get ya. I got like 415 some visits and i still get dizzy thinking of allllll the stuff here u know but yeah most of the time u can post something broad(spelling?) and it would be considered SPAM and gets closed. So yeah I get ya pal.

Ah, the Gollems of Mortal Kombat.(tisk, tisk, tisk).
Not saying that MKD is going to get left in the dust, far from it I think that it will give DOAU a good run for the title, but lets compare.
DOA:
Better graphics.
Deeper fighting Engine.
FOUNDED multi tieried enviroments.
DOA Girls in bikinis.
More online options than MKD(eight mentioned)
Varried style of characters(Not characters themselves but the styles) ie grapplers, strikers, counters, combo masters.
Voice chat
Bump-mapping(comes standard)

MKD
More Characters
Darker
Deeper modes, not graphics
More ingame extras
On two systems
More finishers (fatalities, death traps, pits, hara kiris and rumored old ones)
Three fighting styles for the characters
One custom character
Gore
Bump mapping(first induction)
Voice Chat

Both have a similar Collector's addition package.
DOAU-
DOA2+ (Hardcore)
DOA1
poster
trading card
Kasumi action figure(If preordered from Tecmo)

MKD
Bonus DVD-(MK History)
MK1 game
Trading Card

So all things considered, MKD might outsell DOA only because it has a broader fan base since it's on two consoles.
In terms of depth, DOA's online modes might make up for the shallow single player compared to Deception.

SmokeNc-017 Wrote: Ah, the Gollems of Mortal Kombat.(tisk, tisk, tisk). Not saying that MKD is going to get left in the dust, far from it I think that it will give DOAU a good run for the title, but lets compare. DOA: Better graphics. Deeper fighting Engine. FOUNDED multi tieried enviroments. DOA Girls in bikinis. More online options than MKD(eight mentioned) Varried style of characters(Not characters themselves but the styles) ie grapplers, strikers, counters, combo masters. Voice chat Bump-mapping(comes standard) MKD More Characters Darker Deeper modes, not graphics More ingame extras On two systems More finishers (fatalities, death traps, pits, hara kiris and rumored old ones) Three fighting styles for the characters One custom character Gore Bump mapping(first induction) Voice Chat Both have a similar Collector's addition package. DOAU- DOA2+ (Hardcore) DOA1 poster trading card Kasumi action figure(If preordered from Tecmo) MKD Bonus DVD-(MK History) MK1 game Trading Card So all things considered, MKD might outsell DOA only because it has a broader fan base since it's on two consoles. In terms of depth, DOA's online modes might make up for the shallow single player compared to Deception.

Well said, ole' chap. well said.(runs upstairs to throw DOA3 out the window and play MK:DA more often)

SmokeNc-017 Wrote: DOA: Better graphics. Deeper fighting Engine. FOUNDED multi tieried enviroments. DOA Girls in bikinis. More online options than MKD(eight mentioned) Varried style of characters(Not characters themselves but the styles) ie grapplers, strikers, counters, combo masters. Voice chat Bump-mapping(comes standard) MKD More Characters Darker Deeper modes, not graphics More ingame extras On two systems More finishers (fatalities, death traps, pits, hara kiris and rumored old ones) Three fighting styles for the characters One custom character Gore Bump mapping(first induction) Voice Chat So all things considered, MKD might outsell DOA only because it has a broader fan base since it's on two consoles. In terms of depth, DOA's online modes might make up for the shallow single player compared to Deception.

I agree with this, MKD might outsell because of its fanbase. But DOA will by far have much better graphics than MKD, even DOA3 graphics (which was released way back when) had better graphics than MKDA.

^ Keep in mind DOA3 was pushing the bar of graphics on xbox and it was xbox exclusive.


MK:DA was not Xbox exclusive so they couldn't really make gorgeous graphics.

Oh well, game play>graphics any day

*boots up MK2 and uses DOA3 disc as coaster*


Alex~Vab

Well, good thing I have an x-box because it is an american-made console..which means the Xbox will be getting MK:D first..before PS2(In japan, I mean). And In case some civil conflict between sony and Midway occurs(mabey due to violence) Mortal Kombat will no longer be made for Playstation. Horray! And as far as DoA goes...at least its better than tekken....In fact the X-box itself has been americas first and only console to Excell in the gaming industry.

ScorpianSkullFatality Wrote: Well, good thing I have an x-box because it is an american-made console..which means the Xbox will be getting MK:D first..before PS2(In japan, I mean). And In case some civil conflict between sony and Midway occurs(mabey due to violence) Mortal Kombat will no longer be made for Playstation. Horray! And as far as DoA goes...at least its better than tekken....In fact the X-box itself has been americas first and only console to Excell in the gaming industry.

I'll just ignore that little comment about Tekken on the grounds that you don't have the knowledge it takes to define what makes one fighter better than another, I've seen you try in many threads and you've failed in all

I don't think there's a lot DOA can do to compete with MK without a decent story mode.

Many fighting games fan base's are made based on the games characters themselves, there's not enough envolvement with characters and their stories like MK has eg. people playing as Kung Lao as they adopt him as their new earthrealm favourite.

Another thing is that certain characters have certain moves, MK's characters all stand out from each other, and people like different people because of the things they can do, Scorpion and his spear for example.

Apart from appearence graphically there's not a lot of difference from the characters, maybe a separate combo or power move that people like but not whole different move lists.

There's game that focus on the story like MK, then there's games that focus on the gameplay like Tekken + VF, but DOA seems in the middle. To be successful in the general gaming world, not just it's own built-up fan base, it needs to become one or the other. A game that had both would be perfect in it's own right but that doesn't look like happening anytime soon.

Okay seriously, gamplay and graphicswise DOA3 smokes MKDA anyday due to the useless moves in MKDA.. As far as DOAU vs. MKD... MKD's gameplay doesn't look that improved... The Story mode in MKD will be far more interesting, mini-games, etc, but if you just compare the two's fighting engines... I think DOAU will own MKD... Throw DOA3 out the window and play MKDA? Dude thats crazy... I've unlocked everything on MKDA... took me a while to do it without cheating, but I did, and now the only thing in MKDA I can use in fights are one or two combos that are effective... most characters have one... in DOA3 every moves has a purpose either as a set up or straight on attack, low attacks and high attacks for every person that are effective, plus combos from most of these, I semi-complex unblockable throw system, and a counter system(which is DOA3's downfall I think, because its entirely to easy to do a reversal)... tag team attacks(tag team mode), and multi tiered enviroments, attacks using the enviroment such as jumping off walls to attack someone or to avoid their attacks...
DOA3 lacks weapons(but most of MKDA weapons aren't worth the risk of getting smoked more due to taking more damage) multiple fighting stance(but if most of the attacks are useless why care), fatalities(which doesn't affect the fighting system), Story, test you might, etc... but still not affecting the fighting system...
MKDA was projectiles which does add a element into the match... most are side steppable, but some take a little more skill....
DOA3 has speed... and non dial a combos, which take offensive and defensive skill... because reversing the combo in mid combo is possible sometimes if hit just the right way...
So anyway... just not to confuse things... I am buying both, but MKD for the mini-games, storyline, and hoping they upgrade the fighting system somewhat... DOAU to get good at the actual fighting game...
In the review for MKD they said it was easier to do combos, so maybe their giving everymove a purpose... I hope so... because sidestepping, doing a combo, blocking, doing it again... isn't that fun... until you rip the guy's head off... thats fun... MKD will outsell DOAU without question... but which one will be the better game is still up in the air I think...

So ask yourselves this. If DOA is so shallow, how come it always gets ranked very highly? Any other fighting game would had the taste slapped out of it's mouth.
What makes DOA so great is it's depth in the fighting engine, along, with greate effects such as simulated lighting and shadows, along with bump mapping, particle effects, multi-terried invormonets, which it created. Everybody there has their own unique moves, along with standards like a kick or punch, just like MK, so you can't tell me nothing. Plus their fighting styles reflect the character, Ninjas have ninjitsu, hit man have grappling and death moves, wrestlers have WWE moves and so on.

Like I said MKD is going to be an awesome game, but I won't be the best game. As long as people keep wanting more, fighting games are going to keep growing.

MajinTsung Wrote: Okay seriously, gamplay and graphicswise DOA3 smokes MKDA anyday due to the useless moves in MKDA.. As far as DOAU vs. MKD... MKD's gameplay doesn't look that improved... The Story mode in MKD will be far more interesting, mini-games, etc, but if you just compare the two's fighting engines... I think DOAU will own MKD... Throw DOA3 out the window and play MKDA? Dude thats crazy... I've unlocked everything on MKDA... took me a while to do it without cheating, but I did, and now the only thing in MKDA I can use in fights are one or two combos that are effective... most characters have one... in DOA3 every moves has a purpose either as a set up or straight on attack, low attacks and high attacks for every person that are effective, plus combos from most of these, I semi-complex unblockable throw system, and a counter system(which is DOA3's downfall I think, because its entirely to easy to do a reversal)... tag team attacks(tag team mode), and multi tiered enviroments, attacks using the enviroment such as jumping off walls to attack someone or to avoid their attacks... DOA3 lacks weapons(but most of MKDA weapons aren't worth the risk of getting smoked more due to taking more damage) multiple fighting stance(but if most of the attacks are useless why care), fatalities(which doesn't affect the fighting system), Story, test you might, etc... but still not affecting the fighting system... MKDA was projectiles which does add a element into the match... most are side steppable, but some take a little more skill.... DOA3 has speed... and non dial a combos, which take offensive and defensive skill... because reversing the combo in mid combo is possible sometimes if hit just the right way... So anyway... just not to confuse things... I am buying both, but MKD for the mini-games, storyline, and hoping they upgrade the fighting system somewhat... DOAU to get good at the actual fighting game... In the review for MKD they said it was easier to do combos, so maybe their giving everymove a purpose... I hope so... because sidestepping, doing a combo, blocking, doing it again... isn't that fun... until you rip the guy's head off... thats fun... MKD will outsell DOAU without question... but which one will be the better game is still up in the air I think...

Speaks the truth, nice one.

hey the guys at team ninja know what theyre doing, just like the guys at midway know what theyre doing. And as far as people saying" Mortal Kombat:Deceptions graphics look the same as MK:DA"
MK:D still has 3 more months until it comes out. Im sure they will vastly revamp the graphics engine, along with bump-mapping(halo), so right now it may not look like much, but it will when its finished.

Meh, DOA will be better. I'm a dedicated MK fan, but MK4 and DA have caused me to lose some faith. I'll still buy Deception, but I don't have high hopes for it. DOA will totally smoke MK:D on all fronts except story and atmosphere.