Huh? lol no dude that wasn't directed at you. I know you're openminded to newer ideas and you're one of the few that like both series.

I'm not saying a fan can't disagree with "the idea" but what bugs me are the fans that already hate it, already have it judged which is just retarded.

I know that's not you so don't worry dude lol

@Dave, we'll see about that. I'd love to see Aircancelling in a game where you're falling down literally lol and there's no more fighting styles so that right there will mean less glitches, less OTG's like the past MK's with one style

This game looks like a combination between a grapple, counter game and martial arts up close.

I'm in love with the newer, larger multi-tiered arenas ha, ha. That looks sick

It's not the diehards nor the noobs that hate this game. It's the fans whose minds are closed to any new ideas. Mortal Kombat's plot was about taking fighters from Earth to fight against figthters from Outworld in a fighting tournament. Why is it so bad that the Earth that's been invaded this time is one populated by characters from another franchise? If you want to know how ridiculous you sound, take every little thing you've said about this game, and play some MadLibs.

Where you say "Mortal Kombat" or "MK", insert the word "Disney", and where you say "DC", insert the words "Final Fantasy". Oh wait! That's been done before! And as I recall, it was a massive success that is universally loved among fans of both. Funny how that worked out, huh?

@Dave, we'll see about that. I'd love to see Aircancelling in a game where you're falling down literally lol and there's no more fighting styles so that right there will mean less glitches, less OTG's like the past MK's with one style

Say what you want. I have my money on Check finding 30 inifnite combos in one night. The MK team cannot make a decent fighting game because they lack the proper understanding.

The truth of the matter is Midway wants to make games that sell. If they invest a lot of money in a fighting game that only appeals to hardcore fans like us it will lose money, because fighting games are not what they used to be. When Armageddon was at it's peak the leader board had less than 100,00 people on it, Freaking Halo has that for 1 game type. Midway is tring to make a game that appeals to a bigger fan base. I can remember lines to play MK1 and 2 at the arcade. Now it's all about shooters. I consider myself a Hardcore fan checking Noob.com every few hours looking up news all the time waiting for something. I have waited 2 years for a next gen MK and I am disappointed that it's not MK8. But I will buy the game because I am a fan. From MK1, MK2, MK3,UMK3, Trilogy, Mythologies, MK4, Gold, Deadly Alliance, Deception, Shao lin, Armageddon, and now Vs DC, I am a fan. Hell I even had War Gods. So it might be a cool game. IT WILL NOT BE AS COOL AS MK8 WOULD HAVE BEEN but, we shall see. I think this is their way of testing the next gen waters and getting more intrest in the franchise before there is a MK8.


I still hope that this is for the Wii and we get MK8 but, I think that dream is dead.
He's freaking Superman... He's super and a man. How can you beat him???????????

By the way, you can bitch and yell and flame all you want. The game is still going to come out and all the bitching in the world will not change that fact.

Tekken, Soul Calibur, Smash (if you want to call it a fighting game), Street Fighter sell all as well as MK.

The MK team is just lazy and incompetent.

I highly disagree, anyone that honestly believes that has never played the oldschool MKs....

Like I've said before many times, UMK3 is one of the best MK games competitively and balance wise. That's a fact

No fighting game is perfect, never will be.

But seriously, every game has a "flaw" to abuse....

And like I said, being that I've played every MK religiously I already know that since this game will have one style and no "air kombat" that can be controlled... there will be less problems like there were with the previous games

I doubt there will be nearly as many glitches as there were in the previous two MK games in Mk8

Do you consider a low visit count a sign of someone being a noob? I mean, come on, I have only around 670-680 visits but I joined in June 2004 and I've been active every time a game gets announced..

I'm against the idea, but I still will continue to love Mortal Kombat. I hope it turns out for the best..

By the way, the more I think about the game, the more it sounds...dare I say...interesting? I dunno.

I just hope they are able to do well with this game.

Smash is the biggest Vs. game ever made!!! That is why is sells. Come on. It is Metroid, Mario, Metal Gear, Pokemon, and more!!!!!!!!!! I know because my kids play it constantly.

Are you calling me a noob because I don't come to this site very much? Man I have had almost every MK game ever made. My sister managed an arcade and used to set MK1, 2, 3 , and UMK3 to free play when I came in after school so I played those game for hours every day till the next game came out. Pa....lease!!!!

I agree. MK:2 and UMK:3 are solid games. The rest are atrocious, though.

Every game has flaws, indeed, but you cannot compare MK:A's flaws to Tekken 5: DR's flaws engine-wise. It is not even a comparison.

We will see about the glitches. You said the same thing for MK:A.

Well said Dan, well said...

Wow... most people are being waaaayyy too judgemental waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy to early. All we know is that it's gonna be Mk vs. DC.... that's barely anything.

No Dan, I believe that was directed towards me. Captain M seems to have a beef with me having an initial opinion. Apparantly I am not allowed to have one in Fanboi Land.
As I said before, I am no hater. I have LOVED MK since the begining and defended it tooth and nail. I thought Deception was the best thing they did in a long time, and raved about it (don't believe me, read my past posts). then the mistakes were found. MANY of them. I still defended it. Then MORE were found...and I had to at least open my eyes and realize that MK is not what it used to be. THAT is when MK started to waver for me. Then MKA came out. When you make a fighting game where you HAVE to pick someone in order to counter someone else, and call that balanced, I am sorry, I am done. That makes me a noob? That makes me ignorant? Because I see a TRACK RECORD that I don't like here? That makes me closeminded because I have been giving them my money, chance after chance to come back and sometimes defend the crap they have given us? Because I am opposed to an idea, I am an ignorant, closeminded noob that totally hates MK. Gotcha. I can say what I love about the series and what I don't, I can be honest and NOT go aroudn saying Midway walks on water and love everything they do, and actually get pretty angry at some of the stuff they HAVE done.
I am passionate about my love for all things MK, and I have seen this series I love SO much slowly go down the toilet since MKD. And I am to be happy, optimistic and overall positive towards Midway....WHY???
Dan, I hope you are right. My wife said the same thing.."Hey, if they are doing fan favorites, maybe Sindel will be in it..a lot of people like her". One can only hope. And true, the storyline DID need a twist. I do admit, the more I read it the more it is starting to wear on me.I I just REALLY hope they make it mesh...I do.
I want this to be a success. I want it to work. I really do. But given the past, can people REALLY blame me for being anything less than a bit skeptical? People are ALREADY taking bets on how many infs Check will find on night one, and how lame the story will be. Since many were disappointed in the past, can you blame us for having our guards up now?

And you're captain anti-mk right? right...


LOL, funny how you assume I meant you...yet did I quote you? lol seriously though now I wasn't addressing"you per-se"

No, it was at all the haters in general or people that already have this game judged before it's release. You're telling me that's a wise policy? I understand being cautious, concerned but I'm referring to the fans that hate it cause of the "fatality gig" or "Batman" or OMG DC?!?! or just assume it'll be a bad game.


Ok, first of all ALL fighting games have a system where you can always counterpick to have a better chance of winning...it's not as if that's "an MK exclusive" or something, not to mention the timer is only limitless in the previous 3 titles...ever play the older MK's? Timed so if you're going to COUNTERPICK you both have an equal chance to counterpick. If I play you in SSBB, SF, SC, Tekken, DOA4 or whatever...you can counterpick with. If we play SF II online xbox man, if you pick someone first I'll counter with someone I feel is a good counter...that's kind of a moot point man. And although MKA had tons of characters, the same thing happened in MVC2 and MKA was still more balanced then MKD was...Bo, Dairou and N/S owned that whole game....at least MKA there's quite a few characters to choose in your arsenal.

What people don't realize is that Midway does listen to the fans, the wrong ones half the time that make up these silly petitions for trivial nonsense and then bitch when they get the finished product anyway lol. If majority of MK fans learned to worry about "important things" then I doubt you'd see so many MK fans disagree with each other....

For you to assume I meant you right off the bat implies guilt you know that right? I never said you or quoted you in here lol my post was a general statement towards the "ungrateful MK fans or" haters in general....that's it, whether they're ignorant, noobs, fans of other series posing as MK fans whatever...

You're entitled to your opinion, being cautious and all that....all I'm saying is that despite what kind of Mk fan you are, to be fair and not pass judgement until the game is actually out.

Surely you have a job right? Whatever you do, would you like your supervisor or customers to pass judgement on what you do before you finish or just have them be all negative on you all the time because you've made a few mistakes?

@Dave, well a glitch is a glitch to me man. Tekken, MK or otherwise either way T5 and MKA are both playable if you ban the broken dude from Tekken and ban the KAK/Bosses in MKA.

I remember when many Tekken fans were against online play including the creators but noticed how fast that changed since they were getting ripped for it. I think that was a Namco thing though, but you've played Tekken online right? Not so bad huh? All fighters will at some point lag I just learn to deal with it.

For me MKD was a fun game to play, but from a gameplay view MKA was more fun because it offered the player more options to work with at the very least. It had it's own problems but that was mainly due to the air kombat, I was actually happy people had trouble with that online due to lag because in MKD, that games flaws were just way too easy to abuse to even the average player....

One more thing now concerning the Check and glitches, I respect his skills for doing what he does and finding what he does.

However, in saying so you both must realize he's had months to find some of these insane combos, flaws and such and is still finding things out 2 years later to find this stuff out. On day one when he discovered the AC, given the system that was to be expected but I can't see honestly something like that in this game when you're both falling down punching each other. I doubt there will be a trick to "stay in the air" like you could with the MKA air kombat engine cancelling yourself out of the air to drop down and since there's only one style, no weapons I think this alone personally will help out with the gameplay.

To me, although I found the styles cool it was also a scream for more glitches with moves, FT's, OTG's etc

MK8 looks more like a grapple, counter, punch and kick game kind of like a movie martial arts fight which I like and feel it's definitely something new...

We'll see.

@Dave, well a glitch is a glitch to me man. Tekken, MK or otherwise either way T5 and MKA are both playable if you ban the broken dude from Tekken and ban the KAK/Bosses in MKA.

There is nothing to do ban in Tekken Tag, Tekken 5, and Tekken 5: DR. The games are played as they are. Namco tests their games unlike Midway.

I remember when many Tekken fans were against online play including the creators but noticed how fast that changed since they were getting ripped for it. I think that was a Namco thing though, but you've played Tekken online right? Not so bad huh? All fighters will at some point lag I just learn to deal with it.

It is decent. Nothing special because of lag of course. All serious Tekken tournaments are still held off-line, obviously.

For me MKD was a fun game to play, but from a gameplay view MKA was more fun because it offered the player more options to work with at the very least. It had it's own problems but that was mainly due to the air kombat, I was actually happy people had trouble with that online due to lag because in MKD, that games flaws were just way too easy to abuse to even the average player....

Exactly. MK:D is a pathetic game. MK:A is not any better either. It is sad that lag actually saves it. The developers had no idea what they were doing.

However, in saying so you both must realize he's had months to find some of these insane combos, flaws and such and is still finding things out 2 years later to find this stuff out. On day one when he discovered the AC, given the system that was to be expected but I can't see honestly something like that in this game when you're both falling down punching each other. I doubt there will be a trick to "stay in the air" like you could with the MKA air kombat engine cancelling yourself out of the air to drop down and since there's only one style, no weapons I think this alone personally will help out with the gameplay.

It does not have to be aerial cancels again. It could be something else. Don't you see that as long as they don't test these games the results will always be the same? Infinite combos and abusable glitches that both you and I don't want.

They have failed many times, and it my personal educated guess that they will create another atrocity if they don't test. It is their job to test. Not Check's. We pay them to give us a quality fighting game.

I think there's a total misunderstanding of what it means to be loyal.

If you buy this game, despite whether it's terrible or amazing, you're not being loyal to Mortal Kombat, you're being loyal to Midway. Maybe that's cool with you. People who truly love the series won't want to see it get butchered. THAT is loyalty. The people who supported Mortal Kombat all the way till this point will always be a thousand times more loyal than the people who buy this product, because we respect the game in essence, not a hack job with the MK name attached to it.

Purchasing MK vs. DC doesn't make you NOT a true fan, but it doesn't mean you are a loyal follower either.

I've been a fan of Mortal Kombat for most of my life.........meaning more then 10 years..........and I purchase dc comics as well, which I am fan of both.........but to me this is ridicolous....to me a noob is a choice that one takes....which means an unexperienced moron, which includes the one who started this thread......This breaks eveyry boundary that mk puts up..No one wants to see Kitana fighting Wonderwomen or the Joker fighting rain.....it sounds pretty ridicolous to me for being both a dc comics and mortla kombat fan.....BUt in anyway I put it, I'm still supporting this game as I am a fan of both...but if midway cancelled it I would be both Happy and crying for joy, for both things do not flow together.....

Everyone just brings up good valid points. I see both sides of the story but I honestly don't know anymore. It really hit me hard, No fatalities, no blood or gore? That isn't Mortal Kombat. I'm going to get the game regardless but I just really don't know what to think right now. I try to find reason in reading all of you guys responses, I'm just so confused. I still say, MK is not DEAD! Keep up the good post everyone and nice to see so many people on.

Look child... first off you do not know why us older type fans don't agree with this type of idea for the Mortal Kombat series...we know mortal kombat of a gore killing game...you was probably still in diapers at the time...Mortal kombat had to struggle for it to be release to the public because of its rating of this horrific fighting game.....but they succeeding and please many fans when it was out.... That was the only game at its time to have someone kill his opponent in such multiple details ways that other games didn't had... how dare you to call us noobs you child, you have no idea what mortal kombat is all about...you started when it was in 3d, you may ask how do I know? look at your childish icon..... so child keep your kiddie comments to your self. This game is suppose to scare you kids into liking it....not bringing some old heros in this japan based fighting game....this game is like japan vs America ww2 crap....I find it stupid. I completely disagree with this idea of the new MK....I thought special forces was bad...this took the cake... so child learn history of MK before calling us noobs....

@TUsername, good point. But at the same time pointless hating(like some fans on here) doesn't help anyones case either.

Just a general observation on here, that we saw with MKD and MKA...fans complained they wanted 2 fatalities from MK:DA we got that, in MKD still weren't pleased lol. They wanted everyone in MKA...we got that...still not pleased, fans want something new and unexpected....MK 8 is MK vs.DC....still not please.

This is really a lose-lose situation from MK/Midway's standpoint, everyone knew we were getting something "fresh" and unexpected now that we have that it's once again...just not good enough. That's what I call hopeless, not a loyal fan nor casual one.



I don't think MKA was nearly as bad as MKD, that's just apples and oranges on so many levels...with options for the player, the huge cut in constant offensive onsaught.

As for the testing, they test their games midway problem is they give strick "dates to meet" in which any developer is destined to fail or not get it right. Unlike Namco who has no time limit and lets the team work at their own pace. I'm sure if Midway let boon and company have 4+ years instead of just every 2 years, that would change also. And it's not like we never got a good MK game, we have. MK:SM, MK2, UMK3, MK:DA to name a few....

I understand that it's their job to test, it's like I said however..lt's easy for us as the fans to test it when we don't have any time limits, objectives to meet other then our own delight. They've also apparently changed their testers over the years. The 2D MK's were tested way better then the recent ones, perhaps they should be brought back or something...or Check should try to work for Midway. Seriously.

On the online bit, like you said earlier and in other threads. All online games lag especially in fighting games so right there that will alter the balance. MKD for xbox and UMK3 for 360 and DS play well online, now I know you like PS2 that's fine but I've played both. Although both were laggy at times, Xbox was no doubt better overall. Less disco's, less bs with cheat codes(I'd hope Sony was smart enough to address this with gameshark etc) and the fact that there's like 10+ tags for free you can make under Sony, I don't like that. At least for xbox, you're paying for it.

On the tekken gig now, I forget which game it is but the one where you can't play it because of the additional broken character....what was it? Tekken DR? Besides, I also remember you recently in that other thread having a huge beef with T6's gameplay..saying how namco caved in to casual fans, but if you think about it that will only bring in more fans. You figure ok the hardcore players might be turned off but most likely not enough to turn away from Tekken if they're fans of Tekken, but at the same time attract more casual players that can play a Tekken game now and not worry about mastering advanced techniques all the time in order to play.

Temp..awesome point. There needs to be a distinction between a Midway fan and an MK fan.

MKF...well, seeing as the posts you put up right after my posts hint at me being overly negative, I could only draw the conclusion that your inferance was towards me. That said, I also have to ask this. Why in the WORLD do you think that the people on this board who dislike this idea are "noobs" and engage in "pointless hating"? Geez man, many of us GAVE you MANY reasons why we are expecting some horrible things from this game..and yet you still call it "pointless hating". "Pointless" would be completely random and no meaning (kinda like playing MKA online anymore...). M2Dave, myself and MANY others gave reasons WHY we can expect to be disappointed. And those reasons do NOT sound "pointless". Now, given their track record, give me YOUR reasons why YOU think this is going to be a smashing success. Go ahead please.

Fuc* you TheKrypt...
I have been with this game since MK1.
You can go to Hell Slash Netherrealm for all we care.
It's people like you because the game is like this.
I think Ed Boon should do us a Favor and hire an Assasin to get rid of these guys. To Keep the Violence up for MK.
That was a joke.


Anyways. Fuc* You Krypt.

I'm merely responding with another point of view here, I won't put your opinion down but ask for the same respect in return. I'm not exactly a nooby to the MK universe, I play all the games competitively online(where and when I can) pending on the console, know the gameplay gigs and such.

As for your question, well because it's 50% true...when I see threads like "MIDWAY SUCKS ASS- DC sucks, or sold out" blah blah...or hate the new game after one little video, after the first day? I mean lol come on, that's far from being fair to anyone. Not to mention MKO is known for having very young users...how many users, MK fans on here besides myself grew up on MK 1+, not many....I'm speaking from the beginning, not MK4, MKG or MK:DA.

I'm calling it pointless hating because the GAME ISN'T OUT YET. Thus, you can't possibly know how the game will be nor play...

Thats' like judging a new car that came out at a car show, not due out til next year and already saying OMG this car looks dumb, disappointing etc, etc yet have you actually driven it? No, thus you wouldn't know then would you? That's why I'm saying some of the heat this game is taking is just flat out silly.

What dave was referring to, was what him and I both agreed on. Although him and I might disagree on certain things, we both were speaking of the "batman thing" half the fans on here are ripping the game because of "Batman" alone...why? Because they hate DC? You're telling me that's a wise policy? Seriously....if anything Batman, Supes etc will ATTRACT more attention to the game especially DC fans.

Not to mention how many really big, good titles have DC characters in it besides Justice League Heroes? You won't find many.

Anyone with a Naruto picture for a forum avatar, and a naruto picture in his signature, posting in a Mortal Kombat forum, doesn't deserve to call anyone a noob.

That's all I'm sayin'.