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08/22/2006 08:49 PM (UTC)
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In regards to Motaro.

As a game developer myself, I ask you to please read this whole thing and look at it from a development standpoint.

It was either have him in the game but make him playable, IE: two legs. He simply would not have worked with 4 legs, I gaurantee you, it just wouldn't work with the current engine OR not put him in the game and deal with intense/harsh critcism from all of the fans of him. This is the safe route, put him in the game when he's actually useable but with a significant change. You'll please half of the crowd and make half of the crowd angry. Thats why I generally say you'll only see one Chameleon. They'll do some story thing to explain why there is only one or that there was always only one. You got that person in the game with something workable, and you please some poeople but not all.

Better to get the character in, and please half the crowd, then to exclude them entirely and deal with the constant barrage of Where is Motaro? Where is K/C/Chameleon? Which they already dealt with sort of when it was speculated that they wouldn't be in the game. The complaints of his absence are why Motaro is here with 2 legs essentially.

Think about moving up and down in a 3D environment. as a horse. You've rode a horse in other games right? How would Motaro do that, Stand in one place, rotate 45 degree's move a step or two and then rotate again to face the opponent again? He would get annihliated. The only fix is to make him move completely unrealistic and look aboslutely ridiculous in the process. I've never seen a horse strafe/shuffle left/right. It's either this or nothing and personally I think this is better than nothing. The odds of Motaro going to the next game were very slim as it is, so it's better to have him in some form for one last hurrah.
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08/22/2006 08:49 PM (UTC)
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nobrainer Wrote:
It just keeps getting worse and worse... I hate Mortal Kombat.


lol. Why are you here then?
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08/22/2006 08:52 PM (UTC)
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Yes some new pix and look at Motoro's legs now he might be able 2 be in the air kombat!!!!grin
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davemk5955
08/22/2006 08:53 PM (UTC)
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i was right i knew it

i said loads of times bet he has 2 legs i knew it was imposible

ha ha

i knew it!!!!!!

sorry....
hum his bio

Many years ago i fight in mortal kombat and almost died
But there was a way for me to stay alive and that to have my
Centar body remove now i hope of gaing it back and seek my revenge
on ????? but if i dont survived neaver well he.?
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Tundra
08/22/2006 08:54 PM (UTC)
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ah heck, Motaro's new look will grow on me. I'm sure they didn't have time to work him fully into the game. It'll have been to much work for one character anyway... He better have some kickass powers or something to make up for it though ^^
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08/22/2006 08:54 PM (UTC)
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OMG! I can't believe it!
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08/22/2006 08:54 PM (UTC)
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That sucks... Motaro with 2 legs wtf? Its not a centaur anymore but a satyr.
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08/22/2006 08:56 PM (UTC)
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Bad news: boo hoo motaro is not a centaur anymore.sleep

good news: He has just been opened up to be given better fighting styles and a whole better arsenal of special moves. i can think of more creative moves now that he has 2 legs and plus now with his body i can create the demon from legend grin

im pretty sure theyre going to explain in his story wy he has 2 legs. i had a feeling he was. common they first said he wasn' going to be in, im guessing as soon as they thought of a story good enough for them and a good enough reason for him to have 2 legs they decided to include hi. oh yes sweet revenge now i can brutaly kill him and finish him. furious
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08/22/2006 08:57 PM (UTC)
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smaddy Wrote:
In regards to Motaro.

As a game developer myself, I ask you to please read this whole thing and look at it from a development standpoint.

It was either have him in the game but make him playable, IE: two legs. He simply would not have worked with 4 legs, I gaurantee you, it just wouldn't work with the current engine OR not put him in the game and deal with intense/harsh critcism from all of the fans of him. This is the safe route, put him in the game when he's actually useable but with a significant change. You'll please half of the crowd and make half of the crowd angry. Thats why I generally say you'll only see one Chameleon. They'll do some story thing to explain why there is only one or that there was always only one. You got that person in the game with something workable, and you please some poeople but not all.

Better to get the character in, and please half the crowd, then to exclude them entirely and deal with the constant barrage of Where is Motaro? Where is K/C/Chameleon? Which they already dealt with sort of when it was speculated that they wouldn't be in the game. The complaints of his absence are why Motaro is here with 2 legs essentially.

Think about moving up and down in a 3D environment. as a horse. You've rode a horse in other games right? How would Motaro do that, Stand in one place, rotate 45 degree's move a step or two and then rotate again to face the opponent again? He would get annihliated. The only fix is to make him move completely unrealistic and look aboslutely ridiculous in the process. I've never seen a horse strafe/shuffle left/right.

It's either this or nothing and personally I think this is better than nothing. The odds of Motaro going to the next game were very slim as it is, so it's better to have him in some form for one last hurrah.


I love motaros look!!! Im suprised on the outcome but as a fan who cares im just happy he's in!! smile
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Crownjo
08/22/2006 09:01 PM (UTC)
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wow he sure does look like manbearpig
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UNDEAFEATABLE
08/22/2006 09:01 PM (UTC)
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what happend to motaro?

The MK team better be able to explain this....
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08/22/2006 09:07 PM (UTC)
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LOL @ Motaro

Centaurs are no more, say hello to minotaurs. grin
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08/22/2006 09:08 PM (UTC)
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once again the mk team does it. if ur gonna half ass something dont even put it in the game. understandable a 4 legged character is not doable. SO LEAVE HIM OUT. could hav put in a masked guard or shadow priest.


nice tail also, im guessing no tail whip??? mokap os looking better and better these days.
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08/22/2006 09:11 PM (UTC)
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Some people are neva satisfied.

Motaro would not work on 4 legs in MKA! Why? loading times would be nuts especially with the movements he would make.

2D it wasnt bad because everything was flat and sprite.

You all wanted him in mka, now he's in and your still not satisfied.

Get over it, it's life of the 3d world.
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08/22/2006 09:12 PM (UTC)
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redsaleen02 Wrote:
if ur gonna half ass something dont even put it in the game. understandable a 4 legged character is not doable. SO LEAVE HIM OUT. \


nice tail also, im guessing no tail whip??? mokap os looking better and better these days.


Exactly if your going to half ass something its better not to do it
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08/22/2006 09:12 PM (UTC)
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Psh, minotaurs are cooler than centaurs anyway.

If anything, I'm pissed that Khammy got bumped in favor of that wannabe Cham.
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08/22/2006 09:14 PM (UTC)
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Yeah, because promising the fans all characters and not having motaro is totally plausible right?

They can fix it with a decent story. Some kind of sacrifice to remain alive or something. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. Smdaddy is most on point here: he would not work with the current engine.
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08/22/2006 09:15 PM (UTC)
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smaddy Wrote:
In regards to Motaro.

As a game developer myself, I ask you to please read this whole thing and look at it from a development standpoint.

It was either have him in the game but make him playable, IE: two legs. He simply would not have worked with 4 legs, I gaurantee you, it just wouldn't work with the current engine OR not put him in the game and deal with intense/harsh critcism from all of the fans of him. This is the safe route, put him in the game when he's actually useable but with a significant change. You'll please half of the crowd and make half of the crowd angry. Thats why I generally say you'll only see one Chameleon. They'll do some story thing to explain why there is only one or that there was always only one. You got that person in the game with something workable, and you please some poeople but not all.

Better to get the character in, and please half the crowd, then to exclude them entirely and deal with the constant barrage of Where is Motaro? Where is K/C/Chameleon? Which they already dealt with sort of when it was speculated that they wouldn't be in the game. The complaints of his absence are why Motaro is here with 2 legs essentially.

Think about moving up and down in a 3D environment. as a horse. You've rode a horse in other games right? How would Motaro do that, Stand in one place, rotate 45 degree's move a step or two and then rotate again to face the opponent again? He would get annihliated. The only fix is to make him move completely unrealistic and look aboslutely ridiculous in the process. I've never seen a horse strafe/shuffle left/right.

It's either this or nothing and personally I think this is better than nothing. The odds of Motaro going to the next game were very slim as it is, so it's better to have him in some form for one last hurrah.


Yea, some people are just not thinking. At least he is in the game for those that like Motaro and are willing to realize his change. The others can just not use him.
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08/22/2006 09:21 PM (UTC)
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So now we have 631⁄2 characters instead of 64? lol.
Looks good but I wonder how they'll come up with his change, storywise.
It's nice to have a cirurgian in the MK world.
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08/22/2006 09:23 PM (UTC)
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I always wondered how it would look like,when he is doing an air combo,or an air combo is being performed on him.I never thought that he would be in the game with 4 legs. Just think about hitting him into the air,grabing him and throwing him on the ground like the other fighters do it.

It ́s simply not realisable.In my opinion this is the best compromise.
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08/22/2006 09:25 PM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Some people are neva satisfied.

Motaro would not work on 4 legs in MKA! Why? loading times would be nuts especially with the movements he would make.

2D it wasnt bad because everything was flat and sprite.

You all wanted him in mka, now he's in and your still not satisfied.

Get over it, it's life of the 3d world.
don't say all not everyone wanted him in there. now especially they should've left him out.
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08/22/2006 09:29 PM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
MINION Wrote:
Some people are neva satisfied.

Motaro would not work on 4 legs in MKA! Why? loading times would be nuts especially with the movements he would make.

2D it wasnt bad because everything was flat and sprite.

You all wanted him in mka, now he's in and your still not satisfied.

Get over it, it's life of the 3d world.
don't say all not everyone wanted him in there. now especially they should've left him out.


Back in July till august that's all ppl did was make motaro threads. And now he's has 2 legs boo hoo.

He's more humanoid now, do i care nope, did i ever nope.

Motaro is cool, and imo this was a smart decision on midway's behalf.
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obsessedashfan
08/22/2006 09:30 PM (UTC)
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I have a feeling Motaro is just going to get retconned from being a centaur to a minotaur.
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08/22/2006 09:31 PM (UTC)
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hey tobias look what boon and his friends just did to the legendary motaro of the legendary mk3 !
wow kintaro looks great though.
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