@NAKM i agree B4 with feng has really fast recovery thats also one of his best move but it doesnt mean its impossible to get away with it. its one of his best move because like i said it has very fast recovery and plus its safe on block. it is also one of the best ss killer , but problem with this move is it lacks range so the opponent could back away and make that move whiff and punish it pretty easily. i think the reason why i can do 2 or 3 times in a row cuz u tried to attack me right after i perform B4, so when u try to hit me with ur move while i try to B4 again, B4 will be the first one to hit since it has very fast recovery unless ur doing some fast frame jab. @DEVILJIn, bro i have to do the move that is best for me to win the match i cant just use the move that will cost me a match. this is the reason y i use one of his safest moves, plus its better to stick with pokes and jabs online cuz those other moves sometimes gets too risky when theres a lot of lag.

Here we go again. It seems as though I'd struck a nerve with the Smush players.

I see reading comprehension isn't one of your people's stronger assets since you still have to graduate from High School. However, here are the facts in simple English:

1. I would have quit MK:D a long while ago if it hadn't been for players asking me to play them each and every day. Check has asked for games and I've played him. The same is true for Karate, Dan, Moe, and many, many others. As for MK:A, I didn't even play that game a lot. I played it for eight months maybe.

2. Iori, I seriously think you're the dumbest poster on this entire site now. Of course some Tekken games are broken but their "brokeness" does not compare to Mortal Kombat's 100 infinite combos and 50/50 mix up gameplay. Also, Tekken 5: DR is not the only balanced Tekken game. TTT has been the most successful Tekken game ever tournament-wise, and it was released 6-7 years ago. Tekken 3, albeit broken, has shaped and implemented many elements that are unique to the Tekken series. You would have known all of this if you hadn't played with your Pokemon cards in elementary school.

3. As for Smush, for the 100th time, it's not a fighting game traditionally speaking. The vast majority of Smush players doesn't even play fighting games; they only play the Smush series. I know this because I've attended many tournaments in which the games have been hosted.

Again, I don't hate the Smush series. However, I do think it's overrated, and it has no place in fighting game tournaments because it's not a fighting game. Evo hosts it because of money.

"Of course some Tekken games are broken but their "brokeness" does not compare to Mortal Kombat's 100 infinite combos and 50/50 mix up gameplay. "

Well according to you, once a game is broken its "trash" so no matter how broken it is, its still "trash" unless I am misunderstanding something from you said in the past because you sure as hell made it seem like it.

"Also, Tekken 5: DR is not the only balanced Tekken game. "
k, name some that are

" TTT has been the most successful Tekken game ever tournament-wise, and it was released 6-7 years ago. "
Awesome

"Tekken 3, albeit broken, has shaped and implemented many elements that are unique to the Tekken series. "
Thats great, though it doesn't have much to do with the argument..

"You would have known all of this if you hadn't played with your Pokemon cards in elementary school."

OK so apparently you believe I played with Pokemon cards at elementary school, thats awesome.

"As for Smush, for the 100th time, it's not a fighting game traditionally speaking. The vast majority of Smush players doesn't even play fighting games; they only play the Smush series. I know this because I've attended many tournaments in which the games have been hosted. "

It has more than enough fighting mechanics to make it a fighting game, you tell me what makes it different from a "traditional" fighting game.


Also, calling other people dumb when you have posts with hypocrisy and ignorance kinda makes yourself like dumb, just to let you know.

Thats beyond true.

Dave, its official. Your not on crack. your on monkey pole.

And your just as twisted as your fuck head TKO bitches (With the exclusion of Dan and MR. S).

I remember when I played MKD. I'll be first to admit that I wasnt good at all. Mainly because I came insanely late into the game, but guess what ?? In the few months that I did play that shit, I would see you on nearly every time I logged in.

Meaning that you weren't just there to play with Karate, HoMoe, Check, ect. Actually, I never really saw Check on a whole lot near the end of the game. You, on the other hand were on EVERY DAY.

Oh, and Tekken Tag was over rated. Unreal how it gets so much rep points. Seeing any high level player play is comedy. Kazuya, Devil, Jin. Nobody else... nothing but WGF's, and some EWGF's. Real fun.

now... enough with the bullshit.

When the fuck are you gonna accept my friend request on PSN, and fight me at Tekken ? I wanna see how good you are at a series that if it had a penis, you would definitely suck it.

Well according to you, once a game is broken its "trash" so no matter how broken it is, its still "trash" unless I am misunderstanding something from you said in the past because you sure as hell made it seem like it.

For the last time, you have understand that there is a difference between Tekken 5's "brokeness" and MK:A's "brokeness". One requires knowledge and a degree of skill to execute the "brokeness" while the other consists of a hundred infinite combos that are easily executed because they can be set up by INESCAPABLE and high prority throws. Compare:

1. Steve's SSL, 3*,1,1

2. Jade's throw, teleport, throw, teleport, etc.

The only thing I've said is that online makes EVERY fighting game broken due to lag. Of course they may still be playable but that depends on the amount of present lag. Lag is even going to affect your precious Smush.

Balanced Tekken games: Tekken 5: DR is one of the most balanced 3D fighting games of all time while TTT is one of the most strategic and deepest 3D games of all time. Name one balanced Mortal Kombat game aside from UMK:3, and name one that has had as much tournament success as the aforementioned Tekken games. Go ahead and make yourself look like an idiot.

Why your precious Smush is not a fighting game traditionally speaking:

1. No life bars (existant in ALL fighting games)
2. No hit levels (existant in ALL fighting games)
3. Items (no wonder it is banned in tournaments)
4. Stages (some stages banned in tournaments; stages have "terrains")
5. Simple move executions rivaling those of "beat 'em up" games (speaks for itself)

You're done. Stop posting. Tell Versa to educate you a little bit so you're not such a moron all the time.

Oh man. What's up with these underaged users on here?

Ball-Crap, I'm not playing you because our connection is absurd. Besides, you suck at MK, what makes you think you're worth a shit in Tekken?

Before replying with your ignorant bull shit, kid, remember that even your boy Versa agrees with me:

Versa: "Dave, how the fuck do you lose to Ball-Sac?"

Dave: "He lags for me, man."

Versa: "I thought so. You're too good of a player to lose to him."

There.

You can fight my man, Moe, though. He can beat you. You can then bitch and tell the board how he pulled on you.

Listen, don't call me out. Don't waste my time. You're known as a top three lagger by the entire community. I'm sure I speak for your Smush friends as well when I say that.

Fuck You, trash.


Lag or not, you lost the majority of the series on MKA to no other than yours truly. Sure, you beat me on MKD... of course, I came 3 months prior to MKA's release. MKA was a different story, pal.

Wanna know the funny part ? I didnt even need high tiers to own that ass. I recall you getting literally ass raped by my Hso Hao, a character that has nothing but a measly laser beam, and you fell for it everytime. You had nothing but Dairou, and a Sarrena that you alone considered good.

And do not bitch to me about lag. Especially you with that People PC connection your sporting. What was it again ? 1.5 Mbps ??? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. My connection is almost 3 times better than your fax line.

Your a fucking joke.


And so is your prison bitch, Moe81. Mother fucker used to lose to Drahmin, Kintaro, and Blaze OVER AND OVER while using Moloch, and then pull when he lost. He was quite possible the biggest joke to ever step foot into online MK, and I dont even know why I had to explain that to you. You really are ignorant like everyone says you are.

Look, take your shit somewhere else. I'll smoke either one of you at any fighting game. And maybe even Tekken... Me and Yayo watched your vids, and honestly... we came to conclude that your not even that good. We watched your cousin "MASTER D" drop you like the bitch you are. Fuckin free wins.

I would love to watch you play 3S, KOF, Garou, MK2, UMK3, SSB, ect. I would own you at any of those games. And you think you know shit about fighting games ? LAWLZ.

damn, arcade, i thought we were friends, you used to give me props all the time for shit i did here, i dont know what i did to deserve being called a bitch. and a "twisted fuck head" im real sorry you feel that way. i mainly came here to just ask what thats all about, but as for dave:
its thats funny because every time id ask for games with him, and he would be like "na, im just here to chat"

wtf is the point of posting this anyway? he played mkd, he dominated, it didnt matter when he quit mkd/mka when he realized how stupid the lag was

whats the big deal? i just dont see why the fuck anyone would even mention that.

but then you ask to play tekken with you knowing how shitty the conn will be and how he feels about online play in general? it just doesnt make sense to me, im sorry to say.


and now hes throwing my name into that shit? after being cool with you for how long? calling me a bitch or whatever?

thats really not cool,arcade. im the most laid back, chill person in the fucking world. anyone who chills with me in real life will tell you the same.

if youre gonna bring up the fact i didnt play online or something, its because my mind wasnt into fighting, it was into combos. now that thats over, my mind is into fighting just like i said it would. i dont enjoy the setup i have in my room at the moment, mainly because its setup for my wii, but its bascially the same setup as ive played on for years, and im tired of it.

i just dont know what i did to deserve this from you, bro. no offense, you used to be really cool, now i dont know what to think about you.

peace, and hope we have an understanding. just know any of my craziness in the past was mainly due to the stress im under while making those videos. if you cant understand that, and my reasons for not playing online. ( i will now though ) then i guess theres no point in writing back.

Check, you did nothing wrong.

Please excuse me for not including your name into the "Exclusion List". Sorry bout that dude.

Ball-Crap, again, you = lag.

You're nothing but a little arrogant and spoiled brat. It looks like your parents are not doing a good job disciplining you. Shit, people like Moe and I could be your fucking daddies.

If I ever play you off-line, let's play for $1000 for Tekken 5: DR and any other fighting game of your choice. Put your money where your mouth is, you fucking cocksucker.

cool bro, thanks a real lot.

let me know if you ever want to play... well whatever, your choice, i just got a brand new computer so we could hook up and play whatevers good with you ; )

peace

hahahhahahahah.

Damn.... lol, I'm a lagger....

Dave, hate to tell you this. And this is what makes you yet again, an ignorant douche bag.

Arcade = 5.0 Mbps

m2dave = Fax Connection (1.5 Mbps at most)

5 > 1.5


If anyone here is the lagger, that would be you. Are you so ignorant that your having problems with simple numbers now ???


And sure... $1000 ?! Cool !, if you dont mind, pay my way to the slum you live in, have all of those games ready, and I'll smoke you one by one.

And then afterward, we can do real life Mortal Kombat to. Lets watch you TS Drop after I sock you in the face for the one hit KO, you little bitch.

Check, anytime you wanna play Street Fighter 3: 3rd Strike, let me know dude, and I'll guide you to the way of the emulators, roms, ect.

Pretty fun game...

But with SSBB coming out on Saturday, you might just wanna focus on that until MK8's release... thats gonna be dope.

yea dude, cant wait for that. hope we can make a habit out of it. ive wanted to play versa in that too, hope hes down.

as for smash, ill be there, i just want to play some mka for a while since theres so many people i havent played yet.

good to talk to you again, arcade.

btw- Prime 3 was absolutly incredible. thanks for the heads up, even though i knew it would be ; )

i think i still have your screen name. mine is sodano49. hit me up, and looking forward to playing you in smash as well.

wow man . . . dave wtf ?
you guys have to chill .

And just to point out because I thought it was REALLY nasty sounding



I always knew you and Moe were gay ... together.

Be my fucking daddy.... what the hell is wrong with you, Dave ????







fag.

I upgraded my connection to 5.0 MBpS a long time ago, and unlike your inconsistant cable trash, my connection is always at tops.

And then afterward, we can do real life Mortal Kombat to. Lets watch you TS Drop after I sock you in the face for the one hit KO, you little bitch.

XD XD XD a 17 year old kid threatening to beat up a 23 year old over the internet XD. You're too much. The first thing you'd do upon meeting me is cry to your mommy and suck on her titty.

Please stop posting for the sake of intelligence.

In fact, if you stop posting here, I'll declare Smush as a fighting game. Promise.

Prime 3 was indeed incredible. Very fun game...

We'll definitely play some Smash when its released. Me, you, Versa, and Yayo in a 4 player brawl would be fun.

For the sake of my intelligence ?

That coming from you is a mistake. You have so many people watching you post, and declaring you a full fledged retard, that its almost sad.


By the way... why would you even bring up "Sucking on my moms titty ??"


Is that how you handled things when you we're 17 ?? Hahahaha, grow some nuts Dave. I would probably beat the fuck out of you. What do you know about real fighting, huh Dave ?

Stuff you've seen on Mortal Kombat ? And maybe Tekken ?

Hahahhaa.

Listen up, you silly bitch. I actually know how to fight. I've studied Muay Thai for 2 years, Karate for 4, and Wrestled for my high school for 2 years.



Either way, lets talk about video games. I believe in World Peace XDXDXD.

Seriously, I'll take you at 3S any day. You said that you were gonna give me, Versa, and Yayo some matches a long while ago, and you never did stick to that. And since I have MK2, and T5: DR on PS3, why dont you man up, quit being a bitch, and lets see how good your new 5.0 Mbps works out for you ?

Damn.

Classic MKO drama!

The arguement here is pretty stupid. Super Smash Bros is a fighting game, but it isn't traditional. It lacks life bars and the way to kill someone is different because of that. Outside of that there is spacing, mind games and techniques(side stepping, wave dashing, parrying, throwing beating out blocking, etc) that all resemble that of a fighting game. Even if that is too complex for some to understand, Check this: characters face off with the objective of using various moves and techniques to eliminate the other opponent on a stage. Damn...that sounds like a fighting game.

The fact that it has items is because it is also a party game(4 players, items on, goofy/random stages,several etc). The creator set up the game so that it can work as both a fun party game for friends and a competitive fighting game as well by simpy turning these items off and playing on a non random stage(there are several).

It's pretty simple to comprehend in my opinion, but maybe not for some.


Check lets be real. You know you aren't playing Brawl anytime soon. You're going to be too busy doing MKA Wii combos bruh. When you're done with that though you better pick it up you'll ove it.


Oh, and Yayo is calling out anyone to fight him in 3S in argument that fighters cannot be played online competitively. Kof 98 on GGPO too.

RJ, chill. Sign on MSN if you can.

Your connection is pretty amazing, but the distance that you have from most of the "competitive" MKO community made matches very laggy.

When you said you killed Dave I was surprised because I felt he was the better player. This is why I came to the conclusion that only severe lag could stop him from winning. Could I be wrong? Sure, but that's what I believe.

I hope that doesn't anger you or threaten our friendship since we've gotten damn cool over the last year, but I definitely told you this before.

Yes, you could be most definitely wrong Chris.


Heres where I look at it:

Anytime I played Dave, he could spam Dairous D+2 in weapon all day long. 100% Safe. His U+4 1st Stance was 100% safe. The only way I could really get to him was through safe pokes, semi safe moves, and most importantly, Waiting for the TS DROP . How often should Hso Hao win against Dairou in a match ??

Everytime... if you just wait for the foolish TS Drop, and punish it with the laser. HAHAHAHHAHAHAAA.

Same concept applies to Sarrenas ff+1, and I'll even admit that it was semi safe against Dave. But he had the exact same advantages if not more.

Now if anybody should feel overwhelmed by lag, it should be me. I was the one dealing with DSL connections any day that I played.

hey chris, not sure if youre aware, but i already posted the khameleon combos, and everything for wii.

im pretty much done with combos, im mentally exhausted from the whole thing and my attention is focused on fighting now.

yes i wont be playing smash as soon as i hoped because of the above, im too tired to learn a new game at the moment, but when i feel ready, i will do so.

im currently in the process of finishing my last project. a new mkd movie i worked on for 3 months before my computer died, im not capping anything, just been working on it on my computer.

i dont have any intention of capping anything anymore unless i feel the need to. try to understand that my dude, besides, 60 characters in mka is alot of work, and ive done it numerous times.

i know ill love smash, ill pick it up most likely after i run through Prime 3 on hypermode. still havent even started it yet, will do so most likely next week.

later

4 years of Karate (aka I'll hear from your parents' lawyers when I beat the holy shit outta you and get charged with abusing a minor or some type of shit) XD

Anyway, Versa, I appreciate your honesty, but Smush = kiddy presentation, no fighting game, overrated, etc. Most fighting gamers agree with me. Attend some tournaments and see for yourself.

lol, keep running your fat ass mouth, you fucking slob.


Tell you what, why dont you take Yayos offer, and jump on 3S real quick ? Let me own you a fast 10/0, and I promise that I wont take your lunch money at an offline fight.