Lets Explore: The Powerful Secret behind the Death and Resurrection of Johnny Cage
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posted07/07/2004 09:47 PM (UTC)by
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queve
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I think we all agree the team should Explore Johnny’s Life Deeper.

As a character, Johnny Cage has lots of potential; sadly, the only thing wrong about him is his repetitive "movie" story.

I was thinking, the whole deal with his death and resurrection could actually make a PERFECT twist in his story. Cage could actually hold a secret, a key everyone ignores, including himself, some sort of force or information powerful enough to use against the Great Dragon King in final battle.

There were 3 ideas created by fans I really liked:

1- Blank/White eyes (by grizzle): He mentioned this idea, saying it was the cause of death that made this happen. That’s why he always uses his sunglasses ever since.

2- A Character from the Death that haunts those who cheated death, and refuse to die (by DanDAbRit)

3- Having visions (by Brendan)

Cage could learn he keeps a secret, something he ignores that involve his death and resurrection. He must explore, discover and reveal this information before it’s too late.

He will return looking more like a mystic character; for now his entirely white eyes are revealed, his outfits will be very different, and new magical special abilities will be discovered. Other then that, he still looks the same, physically (and of course, he will still have the sunglasses for an alt costume).

But like I said, his costumes will be very different, more simple, but mysterious at the same time.

He could begin having strange visions that are clues, leading him to discover the secret he hides.

Of course, at first, he does not know what all this is about, but on the way, he will
learn that the visions are not only leading him to find answers about his life and the key secret, but also, they will somehow manage to let him known an unknown spiritual force haunts him with no rest, a force controlled by the Great King himself, a force that wants him dead before the secret is revealed.

Johnny Cage will find himself in the mission to discover who he really is, what haunts him, what is it that he has the Dragon King wants so bad, what are the powers he conceals inside his soul, and how to help his friends without putting them in more mortal danger.

Discovering the secrets behind his death...and resurrection.
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02/22/2004 05:16 AM (UTC)
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You are so right. That hollywood guy thing is old and I think this quest for who he is. The story telling in MK6 needs to be better than MKDA.
queve Wrote:
I think we all agree the team should Explore Johnny’s Life Deeper.

As a character, Johnny Cage has lots of potential; sadly, the only thing wrong about him is his repetitive "movie" story.

I was thinking, the whole deal with his death and resurrection could actually make a PERFECT twist in his story. Cage could actually hold a secret, a key everyone ignores, including himself, some sort of force or information powerful enough to use against the Great Dragon King in final battle.

There were 3 ideas created by fans I really liked:

1- Blank/White eyes: Someone mentioned this idea, saying it was the cause of death that made this happen. That’s why he always uses his sunglasses ever since.

2- A Character from the Death that haunts those who cheated death, and refuse to die (by DanDAbRit)

3- Having visions (by Brendan)

Cage could learn he keeps a secret, something he ignores that involve his death and resurrection. He must explore, discover and reveal this information before it’s too late.

He will return looking more like a mystic character; for now his entirely white eyes are revealed, his outfits will be very different, and new magical special abilities will be discovered. Other then that, he still looks the same, physically (and of course, he will still have the sunglasses for an alt costume).

But like I said, his costumes will be very different, more simple, but mysterious at the same time.

He could begin having strange visions that are clues, leading him to discover the secret he hides.

Of course, at first, he does not know what all this is about, but on the way, he will
learn that the visions are not only leading him to find answers about his life and the key secret, but also, they will somehow manage to let him known an unknown spiritual force haunts him with no rest, a force controlled by the Great King himself, a force that wants him dead before the secret is revealed.

Johnny Cage will find himself in the mission to discover who he really is, what haunts him, what is it that he has the Dragon King wants so bad, what are the powers he conceals inside his soul, and how to help his friends without putting them in more mortal danger.

Discovering the secrets behind his death...and resurrection.

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02/22/2004 07:00 AM (UTC)
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I read somewere this (if the authos sees it, please take credit):
Jhonny decides to train with the Shaolin monks.... then he has visions of the Dragon king approaching, and he JUMPS into battle.
then he ses sonya beaten by the DK and this gives him the strenght to beat the DK...

I really liked it, his training could enhance his powers or give him a couple of new ones...
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02/22/2004 10:31 AM (UTC)
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i know everyone is pretty sick of the movie storyline for johnny cage but i think that the developers of the game are actually afraid to change that. they might think of an idea that is too outrageous for johnny cage to get and recieve a lot of bashing from the fans. i think this is the reason why they kept his movie storyline so far.

well, i like the ideas above, and i think they should try to get ideas from what the fans would like (perhaps not exactly) so that it wont be such a big risk to change his storyline...
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02/22/2004 01:36 PM (UTC)
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i might be too late for our little hollywood hero.

the change should have been gradual. but now its gonna seem forced.

i'm all for giving johnny purpose..it just might be a little late
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02/22/2004 08:38 PM (UTC)
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The "secret" behind the death and resurrection of Johnny Cage, it is that the MKTeam fired Daniel Penisa () to do an announcement dressed just as Johnny Cage. For the MK4, this problem already it was solved, and for that reason they revived to Johnny Cage, but I do not believe that they had predicted kill Cage in the MK3.

At last, in the MKDA, the history of Johnny Cage seems as if never it had died really, only in the argument of its films, thus to give more credibility to than those that die, do not revive.
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02/22/2004 09:00 PM (UTC)
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mister_satan666 Wrote:
i might be too late for our little hollywood hero.

the change should have been gradual. but now its gonna seem forced.

i'm all for giving johnny purpose..it just might be a little late


I agree with this. What you said is good, but maybe he should've started noticing things at little bit earlier.
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02/22/2004 10:18 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
I think we all agree the team should Explore Johnny’s Life Deeper.

As a character, Johnny Cage has lots of potential; sadly, the only thing wrong about him is his repetitive "movie" story.

I was thinking, the whole deal with his death and resurrection could actually make a PERFECT twist in his story. Cage could actually hold a secret, a key everyone ignores, including himself, some sort of force or information powerful enough to use against the Great Dragon King in final battle.

There were 3 ideas created by fans I really liked:

1- Blank/White eyes: Someone mentioned this idea, saying it was the cause of death that made this happen. That’s why he always uses his sunglasses ever since.

2- A Character from the Death that haunts those who cheated death, and refuse to die (by DanDAbRit)

3- Having visions (by Brendan)

Cage could learn he keeps a secret, something he ignores that involve his death and resurrection. He must explore, discover and reveal this information before it’s too late.

He will return looking more like a mystic character; for now his entirely white eyes are revealed, his outfits will be very different, and new magical special abilities will be discovered. Other then that, he still looks the same, physically (and of course, he will still have the sunglasses for an alt costume).

But like I said, his costumes will be very different, more simple, but mysterious at the same time.

He could begin having strange visions that are clues, leading him to discover the secret he hides.

Of course, at first, he does not know what all this is about, but on the way, he will
learn that the visions are not only leading him to find answers about his life and the key secret, but also, they will somehow manage to let him known an unknown spiritual force haunts him with no rest, a force controlled by the Great King himself, a force that wants him dead before the secret is revealed.

Johnny Cage will find himself in the mission to discover who he really is, what haunts him, what is it that he has the Dragon King wants so bad, what are the powers he conceals inside his soul, and how to help his friends without putting them in more mortal danger.

Discovering the secrets behind his death...and resurrection.


WOW, great idea... I've never was able to put my finger on how to get Cage's storyline going but you nailed it in the balls like his split punch, really great ideas, I was the one that stated Johhny Cage never revealed his eyes after he died, and that mysterious pale white eyes thing is really good.

This could change everyones perspective on his character and which would make him just as mysterious as Scorpion. I don't think it is too late for Cage's story to change, I like the idea that he gets those visions and that causes him to stop the whole acting thing and concentrate on a much more bigger situation such as the Dragon King, his whole attitude would change and a new aura could be placed around this character.

And as I said before, I don't think Cage is afraid of anything anymore, he already knows what death is like and he has another change on earth. If i had died and come back I would use that knowledge to my advantage also.
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02/24/2004 06:35 PM (UTC)
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mister_satan666 Wrote:
i might be too late for our little hollywood hero.

the change should have been gradual. but now its gonna seem forced.

i'm all for giving johnny purpose..it just might be a little late


It is NEVER too late. Never say never...It would make an excellent twist for his character, and maybe others.
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queve
02/24/2004 06:37 PM (UTC)
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grizzle Wrote:

WOW, great idea... I've never was able to put my finger on how to get Cage's storyline going but you nailed it in the balls like his split punch, really great ideas, I was the one that stated Johhny Cage never revealed his eyes after he died, and that mysterious pale white eyes thing is really good.

This could change everyones perspective on his character and which would make him just as mysterious as Scorpion. I don't think it is too late for Cage's story to change, I like the idea that he gets those visions and that causes him to stop the whole acting thing and concentrate on a much more bigger situation such as the Dragon King, his whole attitude would change and a new aura could be placed around this character.

And as I said before, I don't think Cage is afraid of anything anymore, he already knows what death is like and he has another change on earth. If i had died and come back I would use that knowledge to my advantage also.


I agree! What he needs is a story change, he is simply an awesome fighter! Great special moves! Awesome fatalities! Powerful styles, original look...but the story needs to be changed!
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02/24/2004 07:41 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
I think we all agree the team should Explore Johnny’s Life Deeper.

As a character, Johnny Cage has lots of potential; sadly, the only thing wrong about him is his repetitive "movie" story.

I was thinking, the whole deal with his death and resurrection could actually make a PERFECT twist in his story. Cage could actually hold a secret, a key everyone ignores, including himself, some sort of force or information powerful enough to use against the Great Dragon King in final battle.

There were 3 ideas created by fans I really liked:

1- Blank/White eyes (by grizzle): He mentioned this idea, saying it was the cause of death that made this happen. That’s why he always uses his sunglasses ever since.

2- A Character from the Death that haunts those who cheated death, and refuse to die (by DanDAbRit)

3- Having visions (by Brendan)

Cage could learn he keeps a secret, something he ignores that involve his death and resurrection. He must explore, discover and reveal this information before it’s too late.

He will return looking more like a mystic character; for now his entirely white eyes are revealed, his outfits will be very different, and new magical special abilities will be discovered. Other then that, he still looks the same, physically (and of course, he will still have the sunglasses for an alt costume).

But like I said, his costumes will be very different, more simple, but mysterious at the same time.

He could begin having strange visions that are clues, leading him to discover the secret he hides.

Of course, at first, he does not know what all this is about, but on the way, he will
learn that the visions are not only leading him to find answers about his life and the key secret, but also, they will somehow manage to let him known an unknown spiritual force haunts him with no rest, a force controlled by the Great King himself, a force that wants him dead before the secret is revealed.

Johnny Cage will find himself in the mission to discover who he really is, what haunts him, what is it that he has the Dragon King wants so bad, what are the powers he conceals inside his soul, and how to help his friends without putting them in more mortal danger.

Discovering the secrets behind his death...and resurrection.


Queve, I love the idea! Cage with a hidden power that has the potential to save Earth and destroy the Dragon King is a brilliant idea. Although, maybe the Dragon King would be able to use this power and Cage now becomes an important pawn in the fight for good and evil. If the DK gets hold of him, he could be able to tap into Cages hidden power and use it for himself.

Or, only Cage can potentially wield this power, so the DK has to turn Cage and make him evil. Or somehow manipulate him into using it for an evil purpose. Maybe through doing somehow as trivial as being selfish - to ressurect Sonya if she died for his own happiness or something. Of course, that would mean his power is so great, he can give life.

As for this power and his death, maybe he was meant to die. There could have been some sort of prophecy to bestow an ancient power upon a warrior of Earth realm but to do so, s/he would have to die. They would have to be the first of a new genration of fighters to die and each generation this power ahs been past on. And now it has been given to Cage and he now, unlike the others, has the ability and potential to unlock it's secrets.

That's my addition onto what you wrote Queve. Hope you like it.
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02/25/2004 12:02 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:

queve Wrote:
I think we all agree the team should Explore Johnny’s Life Deeper.

As a character, Johnny Cage has lots of potential; sadly, the only thing wrong about him is his repetitive "movie" story.

I was thinking, the whole deal with his death and resurrection could actually make a PERFECT twist in his story. Cage could actually hold a secret, a key everyone ignores, including himself, some sort of force or information powerful enough to use against the Great Dragon King in final battle.

There were 3 ideas created by fans I really liked:

1- Blank/White eyes (by grizzle): He mentioned this idea, saying it was the cause of death that made this happen. That’s why he always uses his sunglasses ever since.

2- A Character from the Death that haunts those who cheated death, and refuse to die (by DanDAbRit)

3- Having visions (by Brendan)

Cage could learn he keeps a secret, something he ignores that involve his death and resurrection. He must explore, discover and reveal this information before it’s too late.

He will return looking more like a mystic character; for now his entirely white eyes are revealed, his outfits will be very different, and new magical special abilities will be discovered. Other then that, he still looks the same, physically (and of course, he will still have the sunglasses for an alt costume).

But like I said, his costumes will be very different, more simple, but mysterious at the same time.

He could begin having strange visions that are clues, leading him to discover the secret he hides.

Of course, at first, he does not know what all this is about, but on the way, he will
learn that the visions are not only leading him to find answers about his life and the key secret, but also, they will somehow manage to let him known an unknown spiritual force haunts him with no rest, a force controlled by the Great King himself, a force that wants him dead before the secret is revealed.

Johnny Cage will find himself in the mission to discover who he really is, what haunts him, what is it that he has the Dragon King wants so bad, what are the powers he conceals inside his soul, and how to help his friends without putting them in more mortal danger.

Discovering the secrets behind his death...and resurrection.

Queve, I love the idea! Cage with a hidden power that has the potential to save Earth and destroy the Dragon King is a brilliant idea. Although, maybe the Dragon King would be able to use this power and Cage now becomes an important pawn in the fight for good and evil. If the DK gets hold of him, he could be able to tap into Cages hidden power and use it for himself.

Or, only Cage can potentially wield this power, so the DK has to turn Cage and make him evil. Or somehow manipulate him into using it for an evil purpose. Maybe through doing somehow as trivial as being selfish - to ressurect Sonya if she died for his own happiness or something. Of course, that would mean his power is so great, he can give life.

As for this power and his death, maybe he was meant to die. There could have been some sort of prophecy to bestow an ancient power upon a warrior of Earth realm but to do so, s/he would have to die. They would have to be the first of a new genration of fighters to die and each generation this power ahs been past on. And now it has been given to Cage and he now, unlike the others, has the ability and potential to unlock it's secrets.

That's my addition onto what you wrote Queve. Hope you like it.


Great idea, have you ever seen the movie, Underworld, the human who was turned into both a vampire and werewolf, there was a whole profecy that the main badguy wanted to stop..

It could be something like that, and Johnny Cage is caught right in the middle, he won't relize what power he has, all the pain he suffers and headaches will be a sign for him, and at the end of his storyline he could take out the Dragon King with his power, or strip the Dragon King down into being weaker so that another mortal may fight him.
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02/25/2004 12:33 AM (UTC)
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Well queve, I really like your idea and I wished that Johnny Cage's storyline could be as interesting as that. However, I do agree with mister_satan666 when he said that the change in Johnny Cage's storyline should have been gradual. Pretty much the same thing can be said with Jax. There wasn't really much of a storyline evolution for him as well. I really don't know if either of them should be in MK6, especially since it seems like MK6 will probably be something very big in terms of storyline and such. I guess we'll just have to see what happens when MK6 is released.
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vikiv
02/25/2004 10:09 PM (UTC)
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I love the idea!

This is simply what we have all be looking for. A perfect story for Cage to return. BTW, the people who made the ideas of white eyes, death haunter and visions should be proud. Very good stuff.

Tgrant I really like the idea of the prophecy! It could actually make the story more interesting and mysterious. But please no more resurrections. I think Cage could grow to become a very important tool to defeat the great king, but maybe not THE MOST important. He could hold the key, but with the help of another warrior, use it to destroy the DK.

I don’t thinks it’s never too late for a change, especially for great characters like him.
ok, ive heard alot of rumors that Noob Saibot is actually Johnny Cage (cuz of the eyes) anyone wanna comment/disprove
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02/27/2004 12:52 AM (UTC)
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Follower_of_Scorpion13 Wrote:
ok, ive heard alot of rumors that Noob Saibot is actually Johnny Cage (cuz of the eyes) anyone wanna comment/disprove


That is 100% not possible. Where did you heard this? How can people actually say Noob is Cage for the eyes when Cage with white eyes has never been revealed?
i think one of my friends told me they said the two are the same JUST becuase cage is wearing glasses to cover them up

it kinda makes sense but it would be HIGHLY unlikely, why on gods green earth would johnny cage, a formerly dead movie star, dress up as a black ninja named Noob Saibot?
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02/27/2004 01:28 AM (UTC)
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vikiv Wrote:
I love the idea!

This is simply what we have all be looking for. A perfect story for Cage to return. BTW, the people who made the ideas of white eyes, death haunter and visions should be proud. Very good stuff.

Tgrant I really like the idea of the prophecy! It could actually make the story more interesting and mysterious. But please no more resurrections. I think Cage could grow to become a very important tool to defeat the great king, but maybe not THE MOST important. He could hold the key, but with the help of another warrior, use it to destroy the DK.

I don’t thinks it’s never too late for a change, especially for great characters like him.


why thank u, me an queve combined our thoughts on that.. he would be awsome to see like that in deception.
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queve
02/27/2004 07:35 PM (UTC)
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Thanks vikiv.....

I only hope we see classic characters return....
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queve
02/29/2004 09:12 PM (UTC)
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Follower_of_Scorpion13 Wrote:
i think one of my friends told me they said the two are the same JUST becuase cage is wearing glasses to cover them up

it kinda makes sense but it would be HIGHLY unlikely, why on gods green earth would johnny cage, a formerly dead movie star, dress up as a black ninja named Noob Saibot?


Yes, that is definitely false information.
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02/29/2004 09:37 PM (UTC)
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Actually the debate on Johnny Cage being Noob Saibot is nothing new. A lot of people thought that it could be him because Noob Saibot belongs to "the order of the shadow" or something like that. And Johnny Cage has the shadow kick. A lot of people for along time though he could either be Noob Saibot or belong to his clan, but I'm pretty sure midway or someone with connections disproved this quite a while ago.
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03/01/2004 08:56 PM (UTC)
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Malice Wrote:
Actually the debate on Johnny Cage being Noob Saibot is nothing new. A lot of people thought that it could be him because Noob Saibot belongs to "the order of the shadow" or something like that. And Johnny Cage has the shadow kick. A lot of people for along time though he could either be Noob Saibot or belong to his clan, but I'm pretty sure midway or someone with connections disproved this quite a while ago.


Really?? o_o

I apologize for saying that info was fake. I mean, it is fake but it was actually a rumor I had never heard about. But it’s clear Noob and Cage are 2 different characters UNLESS he can actually change into someone else for some reason (anger, possession )
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toxicvirus
03/15/2004 06:56 PM (UTC)
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Awesome thread.

Cage is one of my fave characters, sadly his story is the only thing that needs a change, and this post simply gave the best Ideas I have ever heard.

I think they should be applied to his character, even though I think he wont be in MKD, but maybe for Mk7.
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RasAlGhul
03/15/2004 07:04 PM (UTC)
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Totally like the idea!!!!!

Another cool thing, could be that Cage would become a little bit crazy.
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deathring
03/15/2004 07:29 PM (UTC)
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Brilliant ideas!!!!

This could make Cage be one of the most interesting characters ever!

i love them!!!
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