mortal kombat back to 2d?
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posted07/02/2003 07:45 AM (UTC)by
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04/02/2003 07:34 AM (UTC)
would anyone else think it would be cool if mk went back to its roots and went 2d...i think it would be cool
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04/05/2003 02:25 AM (UTC)
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I couldn't agree more, back to MK2 style ... though, it will probably never happen.
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04/05/2003 03:02 AM (UTC)
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I don't want to start an arguement, but I am sure that they won't go back to 2d, and I hope they never will. If they did, they wouldn't be able to compete with the graphics of games like the Tekken series. I know, its more than just the graphics. But do you really want all 5 colored ninjas that all look alike back again? No, I like diversity myself. With improved graphics, (3D) that is possible. And as far as MK2 having more secrets than MKDA... well I don't know. MKDA does have the Krypt, which can make the game's replay value high, provided you don't use the koin cheat of course. The secret characters in MK2 were only Scorpion clones, wow. It was nice at the time, but not anymore. Blaze may not have his own moves, but at least he has an original look to him. And so does Mokap, even though I think he sucks. Anyway, I don't think there is anything to worry about, because 3D is here people. All I have to say is you better get used to it.
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04/05/2003 08:08 AM (UTC)
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3D MK is superior by far, IMO, it makes it more realistic and allows for much more moves since it's total 3d, not flat, 2d and unrealistic. We've gone way past 2d. 3D-only is the way to go now days.
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04/05/2003 09:04 AM (UTC)
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I want to see mk in 3-d,but use digitized actors like mk1-umk3.but do it in 3-d.
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04/05/2003 02:49 PM (UTC)
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corylee Wrote:
I want to see mk in 3-d,but use digitized actors like mk1-umk3.but do it in 3-d.


It may work, it sucked for War Gods (which was almost 3D and it used digitized actors), but it may work now considering modern technological developements.
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04/05/2003 03:08 PM (UTC)
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No, no, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The 3d graphics rule!!!!
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04/05/2003 05:52 PM (UTC)
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THis game essentially IS Digitized, they used mtion capture tech, as we all know due to Mokap, other than the fact that the models they used had skins that were not Photographically detailed they're the best your likely to get!
it's impressive actually the charcter models are quite high poly and the skins are high detailed, not quite to the level of UT2003 engine but not far off!
Too digitise someone in 3d is i imagine quite impossible, a 2d image is easy, record someone punching forward from one side infront of a blue screen, in 3d, int heory they would have to record every movement and action from every single angle, also to do it the way you want, the'd have to do that once for every character, it's just not a sensible way to go!
However they COULD, make a model of a person, use photo realistic skins and then use motion capture in the same way again, however photo realistic skins, = photo realistic backgrounds, photo = realistic blood, it would lose it's fantastical edge and thus be very likely band!
Censors don't like to see realistic people have their spines removed from a multitude of different angles!
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Gertman
04/06/2003 05:09 AM (UTC)
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I think that MK6 should be 2d...3d might make for more better graphics and moves, but graphics arent what makes the game...its the gameplay!!!
2D..I'm telling you...think about it, its more fun. I hplayed MK Trilogy far more than I have played any MK game...MKDA was cool but the gameplay couldn't ever measure up to the frantic 2D mayham of the old 2D.
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04/06/2003 06:16 AM (UTC)
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You are kidding I hope. The gameplay of MKDA is not what I see everyone complaining about. Would you rather have all the charcters able to perform the same punches/kicks. Or would you like to see everyone have 3 DIFFERENT styles of kombat? MKDA's gameplay is nearly perfect I believe, far better than any 2D game.
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04/06/2003 01:07 PM (UTC)
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i like deadly alliance and all and the 3d style but it just doesnt seem like mortal kombat
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04/07/2003 02:50 AM (UTC)
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Kintaro6980 Wrote:
i like deadly alliance and all and the 3d style but it just doesnt seem like mortal kombat


Exactly! Alot of new players (people who haven't been with MK since the beginning) may not fully understand the whole MK 'feeling' but this is exactly what I think too... I like MK:DA and 3D is good and all, but it doesn't have that MK feel to it that was prevelant in MK1-3 and even a little in 4.
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04/07/2003 06:54 AM (UTC)
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I am not a 'new' gamer or whatever. I have played MK since the very beginning. This game has the MK 'feel' to me. Well, if that is the best reasons you can come up with for disliking MKDA or saying it doesn't seem like MK than that's really sad. Personally, I think MK3 and MK4 were not as good as the rest of the games. Like what has been said, MK2 was the best in its day, but no games from the old systems can stack up to that of the new ones. Well whatever, maybe if you play MK2 long enough you will find a pink scorpion, and then you won't have to play these lower-class new age games.
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04/07/2003 08:27 AM (UTC)
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Get with it doods, 2D is like, so passé.
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04/07/2003 03:00 PM (UTC)
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Whatever direction MK takes I will still buy it as I am a HUGE MK fan and always have been (even if they make something crap in the future). I agree MK3 and 4 were subpar compared to the others, 4 looked rushed. However, there is definitely a different atmosphere to MK:DA than in the classics. It feels more like a darker, more violent Tekken than a Mortal Kombat. Personally, I found Tekken quite boring (same with Virtua Fighter). Those were games I would play for free if I got the chance but would not put money out for (still remember the small Tekken tournaments I had taken part in my early college days on campus). I do like MK:DA, don't get me wrong on that point and I do agree it is a fresh approach ... but that is the key right there 'fresh' approach and being fresh sacrifices the old feeling in my opinion. Either way, whereever MK goes I will be there and constantly comforming to the new gameplay systems (good or bad) whether it is 2D, 3D, or eventually crosses the boundaries of time into 4D.
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04/07/2003 09:57 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
You are kidding I hope. The gameplay of MKDA is not what I see everyone complaining about. Would you rather have all the charcters able to perform the same punches/kicks. Or would you like to see everyone have 3 DIFFERENT styles of kombat? MKDA's gameplay is nearly perfect I believe, far better than any 2D game.


I think he ist nearly perfect with his argument!!
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Gameanator
04/08/2003 07:02 AM (UTC)
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thats retarted this is the future man quit livin in the past
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ColdBlooded
06/22/2003 10:53 PM (UTC)
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3D is alot better and will most likely be in MK6, although I do admit that 2D is pretty sweet.
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Sub-Zero_7th
06/23/2003 01:37 AM (UTC)
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Well in order for MK to go "back to its roots", the atmosphere has to be like the whole mystical, mysterious, supernatural, and outworldly kinda thing, just like in the first 2 MKs.
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06/23/2003 02:46 AM (UTC)
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Bad Idea!
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06/24/2003 01:17 AM (UTC)
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i laugh at you for having a dumb idea... i mean yea it rocked back then when graphics were primative, but now realism is better now...so if anyone speaks about this again im going to see youre flamed....
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Eniamurt
06/24/2003 04:12 AM (UTC)
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MK back to 2d, hell no!!!!!
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Zentile
06/25/2003 03:11 PM (UTC)
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Games like Capcom vs SNK and Marvel vs Capcom are excellent in 2D, and shouldn't be made 3D EVER, but both MK's more realistic feel and gameplay are far better as 3D.
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06/25/2003 05:08 PM (UTC)
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whaaaaa? a 2D MK in the 3D era??? is that a joke?????? wow
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07/01/2003 06:54 PM (UTC)
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I'm a huge fan of 2D fighters, and usually like them alot more than 3D ones, but I wouldn't necessarily like MK6 to be 2D. I would however like another new MK in 2D, seeing as it's a format which can be improved upon greatly. Don't get me wrong - like I just said, I love 2D fighters, but there still hasn't really been one which made you go 'WOW' with impressive graphics and whatnot. Just thinking of a new 2D MK, with hi-res, well-animated graphics, no identical characters, improved fatalities and the like, makes me very excited. Ultimately, there isn't really anything in 3D fighting games which would be impossible to implement in a 2D game.

Also, Cold, while your arguments are legit against the older MK's, they can't really be applied to the entire genre of 2D fighting. Sure, the old MK's had palette swapped ninjas and lots of characters all sharing the basic moveset, but who says a new 2D game has to be like that? I personally find there's a lot more room for innovation in 2D games than in their 3D counterparts... It's just that making such a 2D game would take huge efforts - and most likely wouldn't be as popular in the end, which is why it'd probably never get made... sad

Agh, I'm just rambling now...
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