The only thing you should be complaining about is the broken KAKs. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Scorpion or Sareena. If you can't beat those two then you're doing something wrong. Why should the Scorpion player stop using his sword pop-up (f+1) if you're gullible enough to fall for it EVERY TIME? That's your fault, not the Scorpion user. Same goes for Sareena's knives.

If your opponent keeps using his "cheap" sword pop-up move then there's a little thing called blocking high, or parrying, or side-stepping. Comes in handy if you really think about it. But watch out, he might grab you if you block high. So there's another wonder to this game called ducking, or parrying, or side-stepping. Your choice.

Guys, absolutely NO offense and I appreciate the tips and everything, but this isn't a "Give Me Counseling on MK:A Online" thread. It's just a place to take the spot of the many, many rants about MK:A online going on, nothing more.

So thanks, but no thanks.

Then if you understand what we're trying to tell you then there's no point in bitching about Scorpion's sword pop-up or Sareena's knives.

A D A P T A T I O N

stop complainging and play

Well there is a thread already made for quitters and pullers, but it's in the PS2 online tournament forums, there's also a place to post about people who use cheat devices and stuff.

You complain when people do the same thing over and over? Shouldn't that be easy to adapt to, if they are indeed doing the same thing over and over?

Quitting happens. If they quit, it means you are better than them. So do you really need that extra digit in the win column? Just take it as a victory and move on.

*Sigh*... Okay, here we go.



You've given me some very useful advice, G_gamer. Now please let me give one. Hit the "BACK" button on your browser, go to "Post Message" on top of the page, and make a thread called "My Official Rant About Leo's Rant Thread". Then go for it.

And I promise I won't click on it and go post messages that have nothing to do with your topic because, guess what? I won't really care about it. HINT! HINT!



Hm... thanks Paralyzer. Although you jumped back into the couseling thing (lol) at least I can see that you know how to talk to people better than others who've posted in this thread for no useful reason, so I should at least reply at the same level.

I could master Scorpion in very cheap ways if I put effort into it, but I think in the end, I'd just feel like sh*t doing it to everyone. I would win against a lot of people (as they often do), but I wouldnt feel like I'm getting anything out of it, not even fun. So, for now, I felt better just ranting about it, thus serving the purpose of this thread!!!



Okay. Stop coming into threads you have no interest in. There, we both got something to occupy ourselves with now.



You would think so, wouldn't you? However, I'm talking directly about people who find moves that cannot be escaped when repeated more than once, because of MKA's slow reaction time. Meaning they hit you with it, but you can't move anywhere or do sh*t while you bounce back into action, which is more than enough time for them to do it again.



Oh God, this can't be happening to me... -_-'

Thank you Penguin, I appreciate the advice! But seriously, if there's anyone else who wants to give me advice or even more counseling about what I choose to dislike online, please make a thread called "Leo's Rehab" and I'll gladly go there and listen to what everyone has to say.

Now please let me keep hoping desperately that my dream of people staying on topic will one day come true. Wtf...

Well I appreciate your views on what i'm sayin', but now G_gamer (Nakm) is kind of saying the same thing. We're not directly attacking your thread as if it's bad, having a place to go to rant and get other peoples opinions is what forums are all about.
I used to hate people who use scorp, I used to quit at the select screen if someone did pick scorp, I still do that with people who pick kak. But, I no longer need to do that with Scorpion, sense I am kind of a sword whoring scorp now, you learn now to punish those who are Swordpions lol.

And I know what you mean about playing like that, you feel as if you get no self gratification on someone who falls for that move everytime, like it's an easy win. But really, your just playing to win, there is not cheap in fighting but there is, what works.

How people recover so fast: Quick recovery and wake ups, those are VERY usefull and that may be what your talking about. Wake ups helped this game out ALOT, use those when you get knocked on the ground, you'll be up on your feet in notime. Once you hit the ground, push forward+triangle, or forward+X. F+X is a low kick, and F+triangle is a high punch.
EDIT: I've complained about the horrible lag on the servers, I was complaining about room 1 being so laggy it rediculous. You could also add that to your ranting thread

Let me see if I get this...

This thread is basically a bitch thread where you whine and complain about how people use certain inescapable moves, quit, use broken KAKs, etc. Well F.Y.I. there's a thread in the PS2 forums where you can post GS users, quitters, pullers, etc. As far as the "inescapable" moves go....ever heard of an INFINITE? It's a combo where you can't get out of it unless you have breakers. Honestly, this thread is just taking up space when you could be posting the quitters, pullers, etc in the PS2 forums cheaters thread.

Hmm counseling Leo. Heres a first

Well i guess you should give em a tast of their own medecine. And see what they do. If they bitch tell them that they do the same thing.

Or turn the volume down when they talk. There idiotic losers. If they want to be sore because there about as good at playing MK as George Bush is at playing Run the Country then thats on them.



STICK IT TO THE MAN LEO


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(>' ' )>= Kirby

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Oh, I know that. I'm talking about the moves where you get hit but you stay on your feet, just ur character's upper body bends backward from the strike and it takes them a long time to straighten up and keep fighting. I've had people do one punch that got me like that, then another, and another, and I seriously mashed at the buttons trying to escape and nothing ='(

Oh yeah! I should have talked about the lag, too, and the fact that I seem to get booted almost all the time!

Thing is, I can't call the server a whore. It sounds too far-fetched, even for me =P



No. Complaining or whining is when you moan about something you don't like in hopes that it'll cause things to change. In this thread, I wanted to hear about what pisses people off about online experience. So we're sharing information, not bitching. Bitching is what you're doing right now. I'll try to get you dictionary definitions as soon as possible to back my theory up.



Strangely enough, that doesn't sound like what I'm asking for in this thread, and there are no dictionary definitions that can help me explain myself further.



Uhh... Thank you.



I could, of course, repeat myself again and share with you the fact that the purpose of this thread is not to name people online who piss you off, but to share your negative experiences. But you're entitled to your own very baseless opinion. If you think this is a waste, you have 2 options: One: you could make that thread I told you about. Two: you could also close my thread, since you don't like it. Oh wait, you can't! Hmm... maybe it IS useless to keep complaining about it =O !!! What a shock!



LoL



I guess you're talking about the insult whores? I don't have a mic, so I don't get to chat (thankfully). Even I did, I wouldn't want to. I can only imagine what some online-playing people would say to you when you were beating them. I don't wanna piss myself off online more than I have to.

But when they attack me thru the chat, I usually attack back, as childish as it may be, lol. Glad to see you suffer like (or more) than me, though. Do you play online often?

I don't quite understand the concept that you are allowed to tell us what you don't like online but I'm not.

My advice was great: If they quit- you were better and you can give yourself a moral win. You don't need that extra number in the win column to survive.

It's just a game folks.

... What? Could you please elaborate on that statement so I can properly address it? u_u



I still would rather finish the fight and get to practice fatalities. Not only that, but I have a problem where whenever someone quits, or usually when I stop fighting someone, I get booted from the server. I dunno why or if it's a common problem or not, but it's so annoying, and I want to avoid it as much as possible.

As for your advice being great. Yes, it was very good and it was a thoughtful way to explain quitters and why they shouldn't bother anyone. -_-' ... I'm actually starting to think this thread would be better off renamed to the title I suggested that kid above.

You forgot to quote Kirby leo

I just get the feeling you think a lot of the online community are whores. That could make for some intresting conversations.

All in all i think you are just going to find immature people its a fact. Ranting about it in a thread just tells them. Im getting the world to bitch about you. You win.

Not fun


(>' ' )> Never forget Kirby bitches!!!


EM

One way to avoid dissconnecting after matches is to mostly fight in created rooms that other people have made, I pretty much always dissconnect after a match or a series with someone in room 1. When room 1 has about 70 or more people in it, it starts gettin' real bad. Lag and most of the time connects in created rooms are pretty good (bare in mind that alot of the people in created rooms do use kak), so you might ask in the lobby to play reg.

Hmmmm, you use the word "cheap". As in people who use a "cheap same move" type of thing....no? There is no such thing as cheap in a video game. That's just an excuse for your inability to adapt to your opponent's fighting style. And yes you are bitching about the way people play the game. "Ranting" as you call it, is the same thing as bitching. You're talking about moves that piss you off right? What the hell do you think people do when you beat them with certain moves? They go back to the lobby and bitch, or as you call it, rant, at you for using the same move on them, which is exactly what you're doing.

are you kidding i can come in any thread...
i wouldn't come in here if i wasnt interested

I actually agree with G Gamer, I used to hate Kaks because they would destroy me with their ts drops and 4 hit 80% combos.

But then I actually learned to adapt and have cut my KaK fatality rate down by at least 75%. Sure I still get killed but not as much, but that goes for "legit" matches too.

The only thing cheap is gameshark codes that don't allow them to lose. I think we'll agree on that.

Actually, once someone used that gs code that has their life go back up after a few damage - so what I did was pick a death trap stage and boom.

Normally, I just deal with fighting games that have broken characters, and the scrubs who use them. But Mortal Kombat Armageddon surpasses those levels. I have never seen a game so broken and skilless in my entire life. My brain just stopped after I saw KAKs so I blocked them. But then people do the same annoying turtling bullshit with say, Noob, Scorpion, Kung Lao, Sareena, etc. you know. I especially have a hard time since I play with Sindel. Oh well, I got 4 other 3d fighters, too bad none are out yet XD

I thought it had something to do with all those people being in the same room at once. I did try to create a room before, but it takes so long for people willing to play to come in =/ ... I'll just have to join other created ones more often.



Clearly you haven't fought half of the whores I have. Let me repeat, once freakin' again, that I've been talking about characters with moves that feed off the slow recovery time, so that it can catch you continuously without you being able to move anywhere or counter-attack. I really don't believe there's a way to adapt to an opponent who can kill off 50% to 90% of your health without giving you a chance to do sh*t, because when you say "adapt to your opponent's fighting style", you're saying finding ways to not let their attacks take too much out of you, right? To find ways to escape their "cheap" moves, or counter attack them. Right? If so, then there you go.



First of all, I never beat anyone using the same move all game long, especially because the characters I pick don't have such ridiculous moves, and are all well-balanced, meaning that if you're rlly good, you may not even get hit by any of them during a match. So no, I've never had anyone bitch to me in a lobby. I've only had people bitch to me in an online forum's thread, actually, but only once. You dont' have to think too much about who did it, either. And another thing I'd also like to add: even if you DID have a very valid point in saying I'm "bitching" (which I still completely think you don't) then who are you to try and shut me down for it? I'm not trying to attack you again here, I'm just really wondering where you got the idea from to think your opinions would influence me so much.

And for me to be bitching, I think I should be talking ABOUT someone, so that I really am being bitchy talkin' sh*t about other people who aren't here to defend themselves. But (unless you haven't noticed) I'm not naming people here. I'm not speaking about any particular person or trying to demean anyone in particular; I'm having a conversation with other people who experience the same stuff as I have online. YOU want to keep saying I'm bitching because you didn't like the purpose of this thread from Day 1, and then because I suppose I insulted you. That's just depressing and immature, IMO, when you can't walk away from something you don't like because you're pissy over someone else's completely irrelevant comments.



Oh, I'm sorry! I didn't realize you were interested. I thought you didn't care much about since your post did nothing for it, in any possible terms, whatsoever. I always thought that, you know, when people had an interest in a certain type of discussion, they added to it in some way. Guess I'm just old-fashioned.



I've also learned over time to not let myself get caught in any KAK's combo if I can help it. There's some good KAKs out there, but then there's also a lot of f*cked up ones, too, so just in case, I'm always careful.



I've got to say that I haven't encountered those whores yet, or maybe I did but didn't realize. I HAVE, however, met those peopel in the racing mode. They just pop up way in front of you all of a sudden when you've been in 1st place for like, 30 mins. Ooooh, I let the guy who did that have it one time,lol.

I really hope I don't ever have to fight someone using codes, I think I'd mail them dynamites.



That's what I've been saying!

MKA is a nice game (otherwise I wouldn't be playing it), but it is seriously flawed in a way that allows lifeless hos to take advantadge of such flaws. KAKs really are the worse, because you can build a mega-bitcho'tron without too much effort. But even when they pick regs, there are still people who find a cheap way to steal a win, and trust me, there are many. Regs are still much better to fight then KAKs regardless, because at least most are moderately balanced, but it's surprising what desperate people will come up with (even with regs) to get endless victories.

I haven't played online with Sindel yet, but I do know she's a very balanced character, and there aren't too many ways (if any) to be cheap with her.

"turtling bullshit", LoL!

^ yeah your best off just joining other created rooms.
And on the subject of recovery time, there are moves that every character has that is "unsafe" meaning once you throw that move, it takes alittle while to recover from that move, it leaves you open. They're really unsafe if the other player blocks it or you just flat miss, try to use safer moves, that way once you throw that move even if you miss you can be throwing punches after it, instead of setting yourself up to take the fall.

Paralyzer, I meant moves that others do. I know that every character has the moves that leave themselves open, but a few also have some that, once it hits, causes their opponent minimal damage, but renders them helpess as they go "AAAH!!!" and take ages to bounce back and fight.

I know that Scorpion has this one punch that does that. I've fought many people who got me with just that one punch, and had enough time to land at least two or three more unavoidable attacks, followed by a huge-ass combo. I'm also not sure, but I think one of Smoke's throw has the same effect, only there's actually more of a chance to escape it if you have a breaker or are quick enough. Anyway, just giving you some examples so you can see what I mean. Also, these moves never knock you down (otherwise you could just recover with a wake-up attack). Like I mentioned a couple posts back, they cause your character's upper body to just bend backward while they yell out, and take years to straighten back up and allow you to fight back.