Should MK:Deception Have 'ROBOTS' in it?
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posted03/15/2004 06:03 AM (UTC)by
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turkish_legend
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since MK3, theres been robots in the MK series, i think it was cool when they first came out, but later on they just started to be the same robots over and over again... Cyrax, Sektor and Smoke all look alike and they dont even fit into a fighting game where theres all humans...
i dont think they should have robots anymore, they really ruin the games atmosphere...
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Dark_No0B
03/12/2004 03:30 AM (UTC)
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Bah. I think its enough with the robots. We've got an evil one who is Sektor, a good one who is Cyrax, and a another good (normal) one thats Smoke. I think i would call it a day of cyborgs. The only way i see another cyborg coming is if sektor creates a powerful one.

I dont want the cyborg thing to get carried away like it did with MKT with all the different coloured ninjas.
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symbioticdragon
03/12/2004 03:32 AM (UTC)
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I personally think they have added to the story.However I think with the new graphics they could make them more destinguishing.If they bring anymore of them back-ketchup or smoke,they should not demechanize them(not possible),but do what they can to make them more noticeable in their own right.
Cyrax is the best! He teamed up with Sonya and Jax in the Special Forces Unit. He had a confrontation with Nitara and Reptile in search of Nitara's orb where they ended up into the volcano where the dragon egg was incubating and Blaze was watching over. I think Cyrax should definitely come back because I just want to see what he does next! Smoke should come back only because the saga between him and Sub-Zero has yet to end! Sektor...eh...not much to say about him. All I know is that he hates Sonya, Jax, and Cyrax.
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You-Know-Who
03/12/2004 05:37 AM (UTC)
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To tell you the truth this is a prediction I made when I was in Grade 3, when I was right into my first Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat 3. I always thought eventually Cyrax would become not a big enough character to kill off, and then he becomes morre popular than Scorpion and pretty much takes a place in the most popular MK character halls.

I think the cybernetic ninjas did something for the story. I think Smoke should be killed off, personally. Maybe have him in MK6, not MK7. They have a good one, an evil one, now an unknown one. I think Smoke should officially go.
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03/12/2004 06:27 AM (UTC)
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You-Know-Who Wrote:
To tell you the truth this is a prediction I made when I was in Grade 3, when I was right into my first Mortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat 3. I always thought eventually Cyrax would become not a big enough character to kill off, and then he becomes morre popular than Scorpion and pretty much takes a place in the most popular MK character halls.

I think the cybernetic ninjas did something for the story. I think Smoke should be killed off, personally. Maybe have him in MK6, not MK7. They have a good one, an evil one, now an unknown one. I think Smoke should officially go.


I agree, if anyone, Smoke should go...

why would the Cyborgs need to go? they are a big part of MK's history just as anyone else, to say they should go...shoulda happened a long time ago, why now? yeh they dont belong in MK...but Midway made it work, and work pretty damn well

everyone whines about having Ermac, Noob Saibot, Rain, Human Smoke making it in the game...how the hell can you possibly not want the cyborgs? i think Ermac sucks ass and Noob is pointless, same with H-Smoke, before i get in trouble for that, note its opinionated

you get all the fuckin ninjas, but cant have any of the cyborgs?

how can you say u dont want cyborgs to come out all over the place like the ninjas, that doesnt mean they shouldnt be on the game period...we're stuck with the 4 or 5 ninjas, but everyone jumps on the cyborgs about being color coded and practically the same...Sektor and Cyrax have different moves just as Ermac, Saibot, Rain etc...Smoke is the copycat.

Cyborgs should stay, at least Cyrax and maybe Sektor, Smoke is the pointless one...

people piss me off...before anyone complains about the Cyborgs the ways most everyone (whos complained) has, complain about the ninjas first...'theyre cooler' is not a good enough reason

and that goes to anyone who fits the same description as above, and anyone, tell me, how can the cyborgs are getting be blown out of proportion if they were actually ninjas at one time...if you ask me, theyre the only real difference in the whole ninja group, with exception to Sub Zero and Scorpion...u knocked off two of the Cyborgs for MKDA and now several ninjas made the next game. MK has risen with the ninjas AND cyborgs, and its going to die with ninjas, too fuckin many...peoples interest will start dying with it...

Slica - anyone who dont agree cant really argue, since im just defending the only reason y i liked MKDA in the first place, Cyrax
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Dark_No0B
03/12/2004 06:32 AM (UTC)
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Ninjas arent ninjas anymore. They have there own distinctive look now. And in my opinion, i think smoke should stay. I want to see him return to help subzero fight off sektors clan and the red dragon.
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Slica
03/12/2004 06:39 AM (UTC)
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i just dont see how people can say this shyt about cyborgs being the same while they are changing just like the ninjas...

Cyrax is slowly showing whats underneath the costume...i dont see how that is getting of hand with the cyborgs...im sure they could think of something new for Sektor to look, i just dont how they can be considered the same

Slica - bottomline before i leave, i think Cyrax should stay, do what they want with the other two even though i like Sektor
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03/12/2004 06:39 AM (UTC)
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In my opinion, MK1 and 2 were the best in the series, with MK:DA a close 3rd. Personally, the reason why I dislike Cyrax in particular is because his robot look hasn't changed at all since MK3! (UMK3, MKT, MKG, and MK:DA, that's FOUR games with the same look for a character!)

I'm not going to argue that "ninjas are cooler," because in all honesty, if Boon made a ninja character that looked cool enough and played well, I'd be all for him. Plus, I agree that the number of ninjas in the past was overkill. I like that the MK team is changing up the looks of ninjas to make them unique now.

But honestly, much like someone else said earlier, I liked them originally. But then they just started to look silly, and they clashed with the Enter the Dragon/Wasteland motif of the first two games. Maybe if they didn't start out by looking like a guy with a motorcycle helmet, dreadlocks, a catchers chest protector, and spandex pants, I'd like them a little more.

If they keep any of the robots, keep Sektor, because I liked him (and Smoke for that matter) more than Cyrax. But for the love of god, update the look! No biker helmets and Tron gear.

PS: I know Cyrax second costume was sorta human, and I thought that it was garish as well.
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MetadragonX
03/12/2004 06:46 AM (UTC)
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Yep, the cyborgs need definite upgrade. Im all for them being in the game, but they look and play like the same versions from MK3. If any characters need change, its them.
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03/12/2004 10:57 AM (UTC)
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no no, nobody gets it, im not saying ninjas are cooler... well they are anyway but the point is that the cyborgs dont make sense in a game like Mortal Kombat! Even the robot that the Japs made cant move like them. lolz (well i know this is a game) but its a realistic game
its not Mech Warrior or something...

if they want to continue a part of the cyborg things, they should just have Smoke.... HUMAN SMOKE
he should have his own moves with smokes n stuff
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03/12/2004 02:46 PM (UTC)
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I would love the robots to return but like the Ninja's they need a completely revamped design. Sektor should look less like Cyrax and more like an evil bastard. Cybor Smoke should also look different.

As for new Cyborgs, why the fuck not? If they can bring in vampires, cyborgs should be no trouble at all.
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03/12/2004 03:05 PM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
Personally, the reason why I dislike Cyrax in particular is because his robot look hasn't changed at all since MK3! (UMK3, MKT, MKG, and MK:DA, that's FOUR games with the same look for a character!)


Actually that's not true. MK3/UMK3/MKT don't really count as three completely different games. He was different in MKG and different yet in MK:DA. It's in the details.

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03/12/2004 03:18 PM (UTC)
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I want to see the robots, but their looks should be made so they are more than just different colours. Also, the old robots looked like guys in robot-suits because they were photos of guys in robot-suits. Now they don't have to be. I'd like to see a more skeletal terminator type model.

BTW what are the `rules` of mortal kombat?- why don't we see any `classic wedge` shaped robots or ones with spinning bladed discs? Razer and Hypnodisc could make short work of people. wink
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03/12/2004 03:22 PM (UTC)
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For a twist I'd like to see a player who you thought was human actually was a cyborg... and when u fight him/her u could see this...
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03/13/2004 01:05 AM (UTC)
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vortexf6 Wrote:
For a twist I'd like to see a player who you thought was human actually was a cyborg... and when u fight him/her u could see this...


when you fight him/her what do you see???
i didnt get it
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UrbanSmooth
03/13/2004 01:34 AM (UTC)
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Yes, MKD should have robots.

They should make them similar, however with different appearances.

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03/13/2004 02:32 AM (UTC)
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Frost should get turned into a "Cyborg" (they're not robots). Not only would we finally have a cyborg that could freeze stuff, we would have one that was a female beings everyone wants their to be female everything in this game (not saying have a problem with that, but at the rate of most peoples request their won't be a male fighter left in the MK franchise.)

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Dark_No0B
03/13/2004 02:34 AM (UTC)
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Jesus. I was thinking the exact same thing, and i was about to post it to.

Perosnally, i would like to see frost turn into a female cyborg, i seriously wouldnt mind it at all. It would be something new and cool, seeing a female cyborg with ice powers, i would definately want to see subzeros reaction if this happened.
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03/13/2004 02:55 AM (UTC)
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I look for two newer cybernetic warriors in MKDA. The first is similar to the cyberninjas of yore--a fully automated android that is identical to human life. This could fill our "female robot" quota as well as making a really kickass idea for an assassin.

Another is one of those disturbing, skeletal, almost alien-like sexless android types. They are very disturbing in their unsettling lifelessness and resolve. A character like this would be truly horrifying if pulled off correctly, IMO.
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Slica
03/13/2004 03:46 AM (UTC)
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Malice Wrote:
Frost should get turned into a "Cyborg" (they're not robots). Not only would we finally have a cyborg that could freeze stuff, we would have one that was a female beings everyone wants their to be female everything in this game (not saying have a problem with that, but at the rate of most peoples request their won't be a male fighter left in the MK franchise.)


lol y not, everyone wants the scorpion cyborg, Smoke back...may not rip off many moves but the spear none the less is the trademark of Scorpion, which in fact means Smoke was a ripoff...so Frost being the 'cyborg sub zero' would fit fine...

and Turkish...i know what u meant with ur thread, i wasnt attacking at u, i wasnt attacking anyone, i was just stating my opinion and my defense...n fact i respect ur thread...

these people seem to hate Cyrax so i gotta defend him before he gets the boot from the series

and the one guy is right, we got Vampires, a guy who farts, rip offs (noone will change my opinion on Smoke, Frost, and Li Mei...so i wouldnt bother), and several ninjas...everyone wants more ninjas, and thats whats buggin me more then nething considering Cyrax is starting to show his human side and Sektor always seemed like the 'ninja turtle, rapheal of mortal kombat'..they seem different enough...

and one question, would someone tell me how Smoke is more different from everyone else as opposed to Cyrax and Sektor? and you cant say story cuz Cyrax n Sektor have separate ones, too.

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03/13/2004 11:37 AM (UTC)
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Slica Wrote:

Malice Wrote:
Frost should get turned into a "Cyborg" (they're not robots). Not only would we finally have a cyborg that could freeze stuff, we would have one that was a female beings everyone wants their to be female everything in this game (not saying have a problem with that, but at the rate of most peoples request their won't be a male fighter left in the MK franchise.)


lol y not, everyone wants the scorpion cyborg, Smoke back...may not rip off many moves but the spear none the less is the trademark of Scorpion, which in fact means Smoke was a ripoff...so Frost being the 'cyborg sub zero' would fit fine...

and Turkish...i know what u meant with ur thread, i wasnt attacking at u, i wasnt attacking anyone, i was just stating my opinion and my defense...n fact i respect ur thread...

these people seem to hate Cyrax so i gotta defend him before he gets the boot from the series

and the one guy is right, we got Vampires, a guy who farts, rip offs (noone will change my opinion on Smoke, Frost, and Li Mei...so i wouldnt bother), and several ninjas...everyone wants more ninjas, and thats whats buggin me more then nething considering Cyrax is starting to show his human side and Sektor always seemed like the 'ninja turtle, rapheal of mortal kombat'..they seem different enough...

and one question, would someone tell me how Smoke is more different from everyone else as opposed to Cyrax and Sektor? and you cant say story cuz Cyrax n Sektor have separate ones, too.

Slica


man i respect your thoughts too, thanx for being so kind lol
well anywayz, i dont hate the cyborgs or robots, same thing, not exaclty but u get the point...
the thing is i dont like to see animals jumpi9ng around like crocodiles and seing mech warriors pulling out big knives larger than themselves in Mortal Kombat! it doesnt look right, u get what i mean?
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03/13/2004 08:31 PM (UTC)
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Baraka407 Wrote:
Personally, the reason why I dislike Cyrax in particular is because his robot look hasn't changed at all since MK3! (UMK3, MKT, MKG, and MK:DA, that's FOUR games with the same look for a character!)


Well, personally, I don't consider those games that differe"nt from each other. But still, look at Cage, Sub-Zero and Scorpion, they didn't change that much too didn't they?

I'd like to see Sektor return in MK:D (he's EVIL!) and I really don't mind cyborgs. But I agree that they should make them differ from each other.
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MetadragonX
03/13/2004 08:37 PM (UTC)
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Hmmmm. ppl dont want unrealistic cyborgs, yet they want humans that can freeze objects, come back from hell, and traverse multiple realms and universes. Is it just me, or r some of u contradicting urselves......
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Slica
03/13/2004 08:59 PM (UTC)
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unrealism is ok because its just a game...
but i see your point about for example, a knife bigger then their body, but things like that are easy to change...yet alone, u dont have to do the move if u dont like it ya dig?

but i think since, n Cyrax' case, his arm is sposed to be special, so y not shoot like some laser or sumthin outta it? ...bring back the net, since it seems to be popular...lose the saw, and the bombs unless they can be of better use...

lets face it, Cyrax is the only 'futuristic' looking character in the series, barring Sektor or Smoke The Ripoff...so they arent limited to ideas of things they could add to the story, or even the game itself...i agree with everyone to change the looks a tad bit, even tho in honesty, i liked his costume from the older games...but whatever, as long as he stays in the series...and like someone else said in a different thread...

for goodness sake, make him evil again

...through deception...

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