Some people need to seriously lighten up
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posted06/20/2004 09:11 AM (UTC)by
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I don't know why people are so irritable, but I'm beginning to feel like half the MKD section is filled with bitter old men, and the other half with mindless little children.

People can't even ask questions anymore without getting flamed. If you're so offended by the fact that it's a repeated topic, just nicely answer the question and let the topic die with only two or three posts. Don't condemn the user for not memorizing every thread in the one day he or she has been at the site. That's how small simple threads turn into flame wars with 50+ replies. And it has nothing to do with noobs, it's all about self-righteous asses who think it's their job to keep noobs in check.

And don't even give me that bullshit about the search forum. It's meant for referrence to old or popular threads if one wanted to revisit them. To expect any new user to sort through hundreds of Cyrax threads just to find one about the Hotaru is a joke. It's a thousand times easier to make a thread, and even more easier to ignore it if you think it's spam. Nevermind the fact that the thread may trigger some new intelligent conversation and speculation. If a person makes a Subzero thread when there are already eight exact ones on the front page, that's different. If someone tries to claim blatantly false info and half-truths with no evidence, that's different. If somone completely ignores reading the other posts of thread, and asks something that has been answered just two posts above, that's different.

But I really don't care if your justified in correcting the person or not. "correcting" someone isn't the issue. Being an asshole is the problem hand, and if you go apeshit over something as little an already-answered-question, then you're worse then they are. Keep the high ground.

A noob is an immature user who has no reguard at all for the community itself. If a new user wants to join our community, great. If that user makes a few mistakes, don't shit yourself. It happens. Live and learn, right?

And some of these people aren't even new users, they're returning to the community after a year or so due to the recent exposure of MKD. They're coming back to the site to learn more about the game, and to flame them for not knowing about Hari Kari is just stupid and immature. Some of these guys are my old peers, and I don't appreciate some people flaming them for little or no reason.

And finally, I know there are a lot of people are getting burned for defending Smoke's non-cyborgness(didn't know how to phrase it, lol). I know you're correct, but there's no point trying to convince others who refuse to believe otherwise. Just let time prove you correct. I was flamed left and right for saying that Li Mei was in the game and that her model was nowhere near being mileena's alt(I still can't believe people were that blind). But eventually, she was confirmed and all the flamers were dead silent. Just think of it as a card game. Soon, all the hands will be in the light, you'll come out victorious. Till then, there's really no point debating it.

All in all, calm down, peeps.
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06/16/2004 03:52 PM (UTC)
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VERY well said
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06/16/2004 03:54 PM (UTC)
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*waits for half of the board to post agreeing threads that are like one paragraph long, reitterating(sp?) the same points you made*

I disagree with like half of the crap you said. People make threads like this all the time too, but because you're a popular fellow, I'll think you'll get more positive responses than most.
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06/16/2004 03:56 PM (UTC)
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Excellent thread bro!

I agree with everything you've said and I apologise if I've managed to upset anyone with any comments in any thread at all.

My stickied thread is still there, and hopefully peeps will remember to use it from time to time. Now would be a good time to get many repeated threads in it to help prevent this flaming of which you speak and the repeated threads.
I agree with you, you've made the point very clear and that it needs addressing.

It's just a shame that this thread probably won't address it, because, as I'm sure you know, several threads like this have been made before, but as usual they don't do any good, and usually these people start it again in the same thread.

It's a shame that such a valid point as you make will probably be lost in all that it's trying to point out.
Least it's nice to see somebody who cares enough to try though, right?
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06/16/2004 03:58 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I don't know why people are so irritable, but I'm beginning to feel like half the MKD section is filled with bitter old men, and the other half with mindless little children.

People can't even ask questions anymore without getting flamed. If you're so offended by the fact that it's a repeated topic, just nicely answer the question and let the topic die with only two or three posts. Don't condemn the user for not memorizing every thread in the one day he or she has been at the site. That's how small simple threads turn into flame wars with 50+ replies. And it has nothing to do with noobs, it's all about self-righteous asses who think it's their job to keep noobs in check.

And don't even give me that bullshit about the search forum. It's meant for referrence to old or popular threads if one wanted to revisit them. To expect any new user to sort through hundreds of Cyrax threads just to find one about the Hotaru is a joke. It's a thousand times easier to make a thread, and even more easier to ignore it if you think it's spam. Nevermind the fact that the thread may trigger some new intelligent conversation and speculation. If a person makes a Subzero thread when there are already eight exact ones on the front page, that's different. If someone tries to claim blatantly false info and half-truths with no evidence, that's different. If somone completely ignores reading the other posts of thread, and asks something that has been answered just two posts above, that's different.

But I really don't care if your justified in correcting the person or not. "correcting" someone isn't the issue. Being an asshole is the problem hand, and if you go apeshit over something as little an already-answered-question, then you're worse then they are. Keep the high ground.

A noob is an immature user who has no reguard at all for the community itself. If a new user wants to join our community, great. If that user makes a few mistakes, don't shit yourself. It happens. Live and learn, right?

And some of these people aren't even new users, they're returning to the community after a year or so due to the recent exposure of MKD. They're coming back to the site to learn more about the game, and to flame them for not knowing about Hari Kari is just stupid and immature. Some of these guys are my old peers, and I don't appreciate some people flaming them for little or no reason.

And finally, I know there are a lot of people are getting burned for defending Smoke's non-cyborgness(didn't know how to phrase it, lol). I know you're correct, but there's no point trying to convince others who refuse to believe otherwise. Just let time prove you correct. I was flamed left and right for saying that Li Mei was in the game and that her model was nowhere near being mileena's alt(I still can't believe people were that blind). But eventually, she was confirmed and all the flamers were dead silent. Just think of it as a card game. Soon, all the hands will be in the light, you'll come out victorious. Till then, there's really no point debating it.

All in all, calm down, peeps.


I completely agree. Some people here are so shallow minded that it's ridiculouse. Now I'm an MK fan, a big fan actually, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to place it above other fighting games that I know are better. Some people get all bitchy about it and say stupid shit about me not being a fan just cause I have a fighting game which I think beats MK. It might not be a game that I have played much but if I know it's better I shouldn't get flamed for stupid crap like that.

People on this site give me an impression that their whole life in fighting games is centered aroun MK. And people who say something negative about it are considered traitors or haters or whatever. Bottom line, get your heads out of your asses and actually try and listen to what some has to say, don't crucify them cause they don't like MK as much as you do.
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06/16/2004 04:01 PM (UTC)
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Wanderer Wrote:
*waits for half of the board to post agreeing threads that are like one paragraph long, reitterating(sp?) the same points you made*

I disagree with like half of the crap you said. People make threads like this all the time too, but because you're a popular fellow, I'll think you'll get more positive responses than most.

You're allowed to dispute the points, then. I'm not posting this to get responses, but in hopes that we can clean up all the negative bullshit off the forum. I'm tired of getting pissed every time I log on.

Tgrant and everyone else: Thanks. I'm just ranting as usual. But you guys aren't the ones I'm worried about.
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06/16/2004 04:04 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName that is one of the best things i read from any threads here.look I just made a joke about how I prefer mavado and not kabal everyone start flaming me what's the problem with that.This site is where mostly all mk fans come for help and discuss there opinion freely but now it's turning into a disaster I created a thread asking how to beat p.o.w mission in socom on lj lieutenant someone told me find it out myself,I bet everyone on this website ask for help before.Just imagine if you created ten threads and no one replied how would you feel?
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06/16/2004 04:07 PM (UTC)
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Temp you're as usual very mature to touch this points, i hope this wont get closed just because it's not a MK:D direct thread. Even Though i would like to remind our regular users that the fact of being a new guy doesn't means that they already know the rules, as even many of the regular guys haven't even read the Community FAQ.

I hope Mods will see this and emphazise the fact of mutual respect and tolerance. Even though Ireally like more ppl in the community lately some new guys have been spamming the forums for no reason, therefore it would be good to enact a more strict discpipline for those guys. Excelent Thread. Cheers
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06/16/2004 04:12 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:

Tgrant and everyone else: Thanks. I'm just ranting as usual. But you guys are the ones I'm worried about.


No need to worry about myself. Thanks to this thread, I have two new ones to make.
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06/16/2004 04:14 PM (UTC)
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I agree with what you said but even thou a lot of people in this community have a great deal of respect for you the assholes are still gonna be assholes
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06/16/2004 04:17 PM (UTC)
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You and me both. . .
TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I don't know why people are so irritable, but I'm beginning to feel like half the MKD section is filled with bitter old men, and the other half with mindless little children.

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tgrant Wrote:
TemperaryUserName Wrote:

Tgrant and everyone else: Thanks. I'm just ranting as usual. But you guys are the ones I'm worried about.


No need to worry about myself. Thanks to this thread, I have two new ones to make.

lol, my fault, that was a typo. I meant to put, "aren't".

What I meant to say was that I've known you long enough to know that you don't flame or downtrodden other users. You aren't one of the problems, bro. smile
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06/16/2004 04:25 PM (UTC)
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I think you are a flammer and a spammer Temp.....grin, seriously again, this is concern not only to us the users but the mods may have to use a little bit more of dsiscipline tactics for he new guys that spam to get in order, and to the old flammers to stop.

P.S. I hope you're not worried about me being stupid confused
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06/16/2004 04:43 PM (UTC)
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Yep, then again I've always sensed this lack of "discipline", not everyone cares about their ranks so getting skulled is the same as them getting yelled at by mommy. I saw this on another forum I was on and I think it'd play out great here. It had a three strikes, you're out! kinda feel. Three warnings, your warnings were posted above your avatar, get three warnings, you're banned either permanently or temporarily till the mods see fit. I don't know about anyone else but I think this would be a great addition to this forum.
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06/16/2004 05:55 PM (UTC)
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Very well said.

Btw Temp, you are SO going to be a mod.
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06/16/2004 07:47 PM (UTC)
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last but not least i agree to this is an opinionated site so there are suppost to be disputes but keep it under control and if sum1 is tlakin madd shit bout u just end it wit a hello and goodbye dont be goin all out on them just calm it down and dont flame or watever its called cuz im "new" to forums not new to MK

and listen if ppl r talkin shit to other ppl u guys gotta let that stop by tellin them leave them alone n the ppl that r gettin talked shit to u gotta defend urself n just end it

n im DONE
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06/16/2004 08:30 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I don't know why people are so irritable, but I'm beginning to feel like half the MKD section is filled with bitter old men, and the other half with mindless little children.

People can't even ask questions anymore without getting flamed. If you're so offended by the fact that it's a repeated topic, just nicely answer the question and let the topic die with only two or three posts. Don't condemn the user for not memorizing every thread in the one day he or she has been at the site. That's how small simple threads turn into flame wars with 50+ replies. And it has nothing to do with noobs, it's all about self-righteous asses who think it's their job to keep noobs in check.

And don't even give me that bullshit about the search forum. It's meant for referrence to old or popular threads if one wanted to revisit them. To expect any new user to sort through hundreds of Cyrax threads just to find one about the Hotaru is a joke. It's a thousand times easier to make a thread, and even more easier to ignore it if you think it's spam. Nevermind the fact that the thread may trigger some new intelligent conversation and speculation. If a person makes a Subzero thread when there are already eight exact ones on the front page, that's different. If someone tries to claim blatantly false info and half-truths with no evidence, that's different. If somone completely ignores reading the other posts of thread, and asks something that has been answered just two posts above, that's different.

But I really don't care if your justified in correcting the person or not. "correcting" someone isn't the issue. Being an asshole is the problem hand, and if you go apeshit over something as little an already-answered-question, then you're worse then they are. Keep the high ground.

A noob is an immature user who has no reguard at all for the community itself. If a new user wants to join our community, great. If that user makes a few mistakes, don't shit yourself. It happens. Live and learn, right?

And some of these people aren't even new users, they're returning to the community after a year or so due to the recent exposure of MKD. They're coming back to the site to learn more about the game, and to flame them for not knowing about Hari Kari is just stupid and immature. Some of these guys are my old peers, and I don't appreciate some people flaming them for little or no reason.

And finally, I know there are a lot of people are getting burned for defending Smoke's non-cyborgness(didn't know how to phrase it, lol). I know you're correct, but there's no point trying to convince others who refuse to believe otherwise. Just let time prove you correct. I was flamed left and right for saying that Li Mei was in the game and that her model was nowhere near being mileena's alt(I still can't believe people were that blind). But eventually, she was confirmed and all the flamers were dead silent. Just think of it as a card game. Soon, all the hands will be in the light, you'll come out victorious. Till then, there's really no point debating it.

All in all, calm down, peeps.


Great thread bro, and i completely agree.

Theres no need to flame someone if him/her doesnt know something or is asking a simple question. I made a point exactly like this when someone thought Hotaru was Cyrax in a different thread.

Some peepz need manners.glasses
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06/16/2004 09:47 PM (UTC)
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ahmen temparary user name ahmen well said ahmen
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06/16/2004 10:16 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
I don't know why people are so irritable, but I'm beginning to feel like half the MKD section is filled with bitter old men, and the other half with mindless little children.

People can't even ask questions anymore without getting flamed. If you're so offended by the fact that it's a repeated topic, just nicely answer the question and let the topic die with only two or three posts. Don't condemn the user for not memorizing every thread in the one day he or she has been at the site. That's how small simple threads turn into flame wars with 50+ replies. And it has nothing to do with noobs, it's all about self-righteous asses who think it's their job to keep noobs in check.

And don't even give me that bullshit about the search forum. It's meant for referrence to old or popular threads if one wanted to revisit them. To expect any new user to sort through hundreds of Cyrax threads just to find one about the Hotaru is a joke. It's a thousand times easier to make a thread, and even more easier to ignore it if you think it's spam. Nevermind the fact that the thread may trigger some new intelligent conversation and speculation. If a person makes a Subzero thread when there are already eight exact ones on the front page, that's different. If someone tries to claim blatantly false info and half-truths with no evidence, that's different. If somone completely ignores reading the other posts of thread, and asks something that has been answered just two posts above, that's different.

But I really don't care if your justified in correcting the person or not. "correcting" someone isn't the issue. Being an asshole is the problem hand, and if you go apeshit over something as little an already-answered-question, then you're worse then they are. Keep the high ground.

A noob is an immature user who has no reguard at all for the community itself. If a new user wants to join our community, great. If that user makes a few mistakes, don't shit yourself. It happens. Live and learn, right?

And some of these people aren't even new users, they're returning to the community after a year or so due to the recent exposure of MKD. They're coming back to the site to learn more about the game, and to flame them for not knowing about Hari Kari is just stupid and immature. Some of these guys are my old peers, and I don't appreciate some people flaming them for little or no reason.

And finally, I know there are a lot of people are getting burned for defending Smoke's non-cyborgness(didn't know how to phrase it, lol). I know you're correct, but there's no point trying to convince others who refuse to believe otherwise. Just let time prove you correct. I was flamed left and right for saying that Li Mei was in the game and that her model was nowhere near being mileena's alt(I still can't believe people were that blind). But eventually, she was confirmed and all the flamers were dead silent. Just think of it as a card game. Soon, all the hands will be in the light, you'll come out victorious. Till then, there's really no point debating it.

All in all, calm down, peeps.

Wow.... ~stands up and applaudes~ Excelent speaking dude! Seriously. You just spoke out most of the things that I had on my mind. People seriously DO need to lighten up...
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06/16/2004 10:27 PM (UTC)
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I don't think it could've been said any better. I for one would like to make some kind of "Useless Flame No Tolerence Ban" myself...It's pitiful to see people flaming a guy for being new...we were all new once, some may have asked stupid questions, some not...It's not the person's responsibility to search the net like a blood hound for information that could be answered in a second by someone else...(Or in really horrible cases, gets flamed for not using spell check or something...I mean...wth??) GREAT post, something along these lines needs to be stickied because it's really getting out of hand...
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06/16/2004 10:58 PM (UTC)
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I have to agree with everything you said Temp... because I don't think I have the right to get mad at people that has been here for a long time now, and who I think they have more right them me. I don't think that it will make a good impression of me getting mad at people since I am new here (not to MK though wink ).
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06/16/2004 11:10 PM (UTC)
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I am not trying to dispute your thread or anything, I mostly agree with you. But there are some stuff I do not agree with you at, some please don't flame me.

TemperaryUserName Wrote:
"And don't even give me that bullshit about the search forum. It's meant for referrence to old or popular threads if one wanted to revisit them. "



Not really. It is there for people to search to see if their question has already been answered without wasting people's time asking it again. If (bad example, but it doesn't matter) someone asks "Does Raiden shoot lightning?" once a week, that gets VERY annoying. Instead of waiting 45 minutes for someone to reply to your thread with a stupid question like "Does Raiden shoot lightning?" you can save yours and other people atleast 2 minutes of time by either: searching it to see if it already has been answered, or when that does not work: Google it.

TemperaryUserName Wrote:
"To expect any new user to sort through hundreds of Cyrax threads just to find one about the Hotaru is a joke."


They should be more specific with what they want, then.

TemperaryUserName Wrote:
"A noob is an immature user who has no reguard at all for the community itself."


N00b is short for "newbie" actually, correct me if I am wrong.

TemperaryUserName Wrote:
"And finally, I know there are a lot of people are getting burned for defending Smoke's non-cyborgness(didn't know how to phrase it, lol)."


And finally, I know there are a lot of people that are getting burned for defending Human/Ninja Smoke.


Plus, this is the internet. If you are offended by some dude who corrected you and called you an idiot for it and you were offended, you probably deserved it. I mostly agree with everything you said, very well presented. I would write more on this but my fugging internet and computer is so slow right now I am going to have to reboot...

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06/16/2004 11:26 PM (UTC)
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I hate to be some antagonist truthful person here but alas, Im going to have 2 be

Someone already pointed out "this is the internet" and thats just fact. Not everyone will read this and go "omg yeah!!" Some people just DONT GET IT and we/u have to deal with it.

So pls face facts, some people will post rubbish to get attention, some people will be negative in EVERY post, some people will be all jolly and happy all the time and some people will just come across as odd, such is the internet.

I know there is good intent making this thread, but like most threads like this, its just one person venting their anger at something they CANNOT control.

Altho I may be repeating whats bin said, I think the only way to comprimise the scenario at hand is to simply JUST IGNORE IT.

If someone says something you dont like, ignore it. Simple. Sure, opinions are fine but think 1st. "Will this lead to argument?" "will this make good discussion?" Im *hopin* people out there will make the right choice

Sure theres irony, Im sayin its stupid to make such a thread, yet Im making one myself. Again, no matter what, we will all have opinions and whatnot, but people pls, just ignore it.

If someones obv bein a complete idiot, IGNORE IT.

Behaviour breeds behaviour. If a "silly" thread is out there and has no replies, chances are it will stay that way, unless someone decides they wanna be "the one who tells the poster to shut up" and then everyone crawls from under their rock and lo and behold, we have some thread where everyones bein stupid and postin pictures depictin how stupid they think the thread is.

Oh and I dont care for people readin this and thinkin "hes only got a few visits, he knows nothing"
That mindset is quite odd, it isnt about the number of visits or the frequency of posts someone has made, its the quality of the posts in question, that shud be the determinin factor wen u decide whether or not u choose to reply, and dont get me started on the topic they've made, cos this is MK Deception, and if it isnt MK Deception bein discussed, then no posts shud follow, NO POSTS. But this isnt an ideal world, so posters, post at will

With that bein said, this isnt a Deception thread, this is a "forum related" thread, so can some moderator please delete?

Thanks for your time, excuse the irony.


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06/16/2004 11:31 PM (UTC)
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ReptilianHelms Wrote:

Altho I may be repeating whats bin said, I think the only way to comprimise the scenario at hand is to simply JUST IGNORE IT.



I agree Eric D. Don't feed the trolls. Someone annoys you or pisses you off? Ignore him/her and they'll leave. Complaining about it gives them more reasons to do it. They come here to piss people off, and knowing it pisses you off just makes them satisfied. So Temp, you are just contributing to it. Just let the mods take care of it. Why else do trolls flame and such? To piss you off. And now they know they succeeded.

Also to add to my original post: the n00bs should AT LEAST go through 2-3 pages of the forums to see if their question has/hasn't been answered already.
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