Subzero5543 Wrote:
First of all you are an idiot for thinking subby will have only 2 moves, second the ice clone WAs the shit but this is 3d you can sidestep walk downwards, upwards, you dont have to walk str8 like in the 2d games, so the ice clone will suck in this game and wont be as useful.
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When the person sidesteps, they pivot around the axis of their enemy. Simply dash back onto the clone and the will be sidestepping, but only rotating the camera, as the clone is still on the x-axis due to the fact that they're stepping around you (who is also on the clone).
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HDTran Wrote:
Cold Shoulder = The use for it was RARE, it was unsafe and the only thing it could be used for most of the time was out-prioritizing a few things. It was crap in juggles since you could get much better damage off of fully finishing chains. Although it was useful in punishing some of the safer stuff because of it's speed/reach, but overall, not a loss worth talking about.
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Personally, i thought the cold shoulder was great.. Yea, its true if you finish the chain you get comparable/better damage, but you wouldnt get the spacing that you would get if you did say Dragon d3/d4 then cold shoulder (after the pop up), considering the fact that a cold shoulder out of juggle would give you a full screens distance from a character. This may not have been as important in DA, but in MKD....
Now with the death traps in MKD, i think the cold shoulder wouldve been one of the most deadly moves in MKD.. All you would have to do to ring out someone would be to UT in dragon and 1,1,2, cold shoulder(keep BDC'n until you get one to connect).
Oh wait.. is this an actual conscience effort to balance the game?
(INsert Noobs name here that wants more moves for sub), its ok, you dont know any better.
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Off of normal out-priotizing, it might be a good tool to have. But during a juggle, I think Subby's Dragon Stance is enough for him to easily knock out people into DT's since when he strikes with his two palms in the hadoken motion in 2 of his moves and 2 of his chains, it induces wallhit, which I think knocks into DT like every wallhit inducing move shown thus far. So I'm not sure, it just depends. If those Dragon moves are still there, juggles should be easy enough for him to get DTs plenty.
| SUBZEROXIMMORTAL Wrote: well there is a chance he won't show up in one of the next games, i mean scorpion did miss an MK right? actual MK, besides special forces and mythologies, and he's boon fav character. anyway u guys gave me some hope for seing the ice shaker back or the move where you freeze if u get close to him ( i can;t remember either). some people said the slide is useless - if it's fast enough, it's not. crouching and guarding slows u down alot and leaves u open for some other attacks, so i don't think your opponent would block lowkicks that much. to top it off, u can use the slide to switch sides ( useful with the new death traps), or get to your oponent if he's frozen and far away from you. the ice clone is over rated though. yeah it's true it's gonna be easier to avoid it since u can move around, but i'm hoping it'll be interactive -that'll make subzero one of the top characters in MKD for sure. some people said he might only have 2 moves because he's the best in mkd : i reall doubt it. he has the same fighting styles and weapon he had in mk:da. the cory blade sucks, especially since u can't impale - but it had a knee-level hit that counted as a sweep, so that was good. i really hope u do get to buy combos from the graveyard, and YES subzero's still my favorite character. a lot of specials or only a couple: still kicking specter ass! ( no offense to scorpion fans, scorpion was the best fighter in mk:da, but just cause they gave him a lot of cool stuff). thanks for the update on the ice shaker, even though it's not really confirmed. besides that, i think they're done adding stuff to the game. |
No, Scorpion was good because of Pi Gua and hellfire. Pi Gua 3, Pi Gua 4, Hellfire, Shove. That's it, that's the only reason why he's the best. Not because of his amount of moves or anything else. Just Pi Gua Attack 3, Pi GuaAttack 4, Hellfire, Shove. If 4 lands, you get a hellfire. If you shove em, you get a hellfire. In all cases, you can backdash to be safe. It allowed him 50/50 mixups all day. When you were hellfire'd, he'd move up and do it again. Everyone pretty much agrees that the new Scorpion, seen thus far, is weaker than before. Basically from top tier to probably somewhere from Mid tier and won't be otherwise until everyone can judge the safety of his new stances. With people thinking Hellfire might be blockable and the loss of Pi Gua and shove, Scorpion is no longer the powerhouse he once was.
Impale was crap dude, unless you were playing against someone who is entirely clueless of how to block even remotely decently, it NEVER ever worked. Again, just dash back onto the clone if the guy starts stepping and the clone will remain on the axis of which you are fighting. Otherwise just clone again. Clone allows Subby to fight with everything he has, period. You get to use the entire movelist, no matter how useless lots of moves are and be safe because the clone has your back. That is why Subby will easily be one of the better characters and projected to be one of the best.
