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Garlador
07/05/2008 09:18 AM (UTC)
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Okay, I have mixed feelings of love and uncertainty.

They did reveal alot. For once. Finally. I'm happy about that. I thought the visuals looked better than the few screenshots we've seen, and I'm digging Sub-Zero's look more and more now that I see him in action.

I liked most of the new (and returning) special attacks. Sonya's got her Leg Grab back, while I'm glad Flash didn't directly rip off Kabal's Spin move. Sub-Zero's new and improved Ice Block looks like a much more practical version of his Ice Clone move, and I can dig his teleport (even if it doesn't make any sense whatsoever, but what the hell.)

I think Shang Tsung looks pretty good, if a bit generic. He looks much more like a fighter than many of his previous incarnations, and seems to be channeling his MK3 look.

I'm glad Fatalities of some kind are going to be in the game.

I'm still not sold on the new "gimmicks", like Freefall Kombat and Klose Kombat. Both of them looked like they slowed DOWN the action instead of intensified it. They animation still is pretty robotic, and if they can smooth it out just a tad I'd be please. But MK is still more of a "brawl" game than a kung-fu ballet like Tekken, so it hits hard and has heavy recoil, but it still shouldn't look like two robots going at it (unless Cyrax and Metallo are in the game.)

Other than that, I'm much more optimistic than I was before. It's shaping up to be decent, rather than the disaster it appeared to be at its unveiling. I'm not exactly sold on the idea just yet, but everything so far has been reassuring (yes, there will be blood, and fatalities, and it's non-canon, etc.)

I do admit, I'm eager to see which two characters they'll show off at E3. My money's on Wonder Woman and Kitana.
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07/05/2008 09:25 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
Thanks for uploading, MINION.
I love that Sonya has her moves back. I saw the Leg grab, Bicycle Kick, Kiss of Death and Energy Rings though they look to be fired out of a gun or the energy is coming off her hands..


Sonya looks incredible!

Btw, her sexy Energy Rings are thrown out of her body/fists. It seems to work like the way we saw them in MK4 and MK3, only that the energy doesnt come from all her body, it comes from part of her arm+chest and flows through her fists.

There is no gun in there. Have you seen the video in high quality? Gametrailers already updated.

It looks awesome (as her leg grab and bicycle kicks do)! I love the new effect they created for her.

And I love Ed Boon and the Mk team for listening to the fans. They gave her all the specials that were asked for, and with luck, she might still have a few more (2 new ones maybe!). grin

Btw, I got your Pm buddy, I will getting back to you asap. smile
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Zentile
07/05/2008 12:30 PM (UTC)
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Am I the only one who completely hates what the game is looking like? This is not what I expected nor what I wanted at all.

I like Shang's look and some of the movie-like elements in the game like the free fall kombat and when the camera angle changes on Superman while he pounds a guy in the air.

Everything else looks like MKDA again, and I wanted something truly fresh. It's a whole new system, why does it still look like this?
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sonicherosfan1
07/05/2008 02:50 PM (UTC)
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WOW.

I was wrong.IMO I am so surprised of how the game looked in that video.
As crazy as Ed is,I am really looking forward to the game and now I won't feel strange about preordering the game.So until they start screwing the game up or turns out their lying to us again about stuff that is supposed to be in the game,they got my 5 dollars down on the game today.
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07/05/2008 02:53 PM (UTC)
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I rather liked what I saw even though I still don't like the idea of a DC crossover. It looks like the MK team is doing their best ot make sure they can balance that out with good gameplay.

Hopefully the Klose Kombat and stuff was only slow to show us how it worked and that when you actually use it it'll be faster. Nice to see the special moves as well. crashing someone through like 5 walls is neat. It looks a bit unbalanced though, but that'll probably be taken care of. The gameplay itself looks fluid enough. Having lots of people on screen fighting in cutscenes adds some excitement to the game all though I would have prefered that Boon not toss Arcade out the window but since I have Live and can play online it's not as bad as it could be.

All in all I'm a bit less against the game now but I don't see why this stuff couldn't have been in a canon MK game.
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07/05/2008 02:56 PM (UTC)
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I agree with you Zentile.

I have been against this game from the start, but im always looking for just a little something to get me to like this game, but the gttv episode did nothing but make me hate this game even more. For example ...

Ed Boon : " We are going for photo realistic visuals "

Then why does everything look like Mortal Kombat Deception in high resolution ? Photo realistic graphics would require you to scan actual actors like the do for sports games, and the Smackdown Vs. Raw series. Back when Mortal Kombat was awesome, you guys did use real actors, so why you can't take that next step into 3D is beyond me considering the fans have wanted MK to go back to its digitalized look for ages.

And then there is the animations, which once again look like stiff robotic dial a combos, rather than the fluid animation style of a Soul Calibur or Virtual Fighter. I thought they were starting with a clean slate all over again, but it looks like the ripped animation right from Mortal Kombat Armageddon.

In short, this game is POOP.
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07/05/2008 03:07 PM (UTC)
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to start with: MINION, many thanks for uploading this video!

Sonya got her old school specials back YAY!! I was really excited to see the return of the Leg Grab, as well as the Bike Kicks! Looked awesome to me!

Shang Tsung looked... different. Darker for my feel. Nothing wrong with it. Subby doing a teleport is like seeing Baraka without blades or someting. Surprised me there. Not sure if that suits him. It did seem cool though. Scorpion also, seeing his skull like that was just plain great!

About de fighting mechanics then. I'm not really impressed with the Klose Kombat which seemed slow. It would be great to see it executed faster, then I'd like it much more. Same for Free Fall Kombat which I do like already, but it would be better in a faster fall.

In all, a great update. They've revealed much and I'm getting really excited for the game now smile
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lastfighter89
07/05/2008 03:15 PM (UTC)
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i had some kind of mixed reaction n my own.
1)characters look:Sub Zero looks terrible,his attire hasn't been renewd at all.He is just a updated version of his MK DA/MKA secondary attire,without medallion.
Scorpion looks pretty cool,very similar to his shaolin monks appereance,but still cool and in some way diffeent.
Sonya is excellent nothing to complain about her and the same about shang tsung.The DC ones are the same of their comic version,except for Catwoman which sucks.
2)graphic:have you seen the Shang Tsung face on the monitor,behind Steve Beran?He looks cartoony once again,with huge jaw and big head.
This style reminds me of the DA,D and A days...goig back to 2002.
the stages are very detailed,but the chars are poor and low detailed.
3)gameplay:the klose kombat s kinda disappointening:the boxing match example is absolutely out of place.When yu use a boxing style you have to duck,block,counter attack,etc not a random system like "rock,paper and scissors" when you have to press as much buttons as you can and be lucky to hit your opponent 5 times instead of 3 or 4.
The frefall kombat is slow,and somewhat conraddicotry:in the graveyard stage and hell stage you can fight during stage transititions,why can't do the same during the metropolis transitions?
and also all the transitions looks the same(the graveyard showed in the gametrailer movie is identical to the teaser trailer,even tough they stated from different points)
4)general consideration:surely a decent game,but nothing better than the MK standards.the normal gameplay looks fast,and the chance to combine special attacks top the combos kinda reminds meof the 10-11 hits combos from UMK3/MKT.

my rating(as for NOW) 7/10
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07/05/2008 03:51 PM (UTC)
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I'm very impressed with what I've seen.

-Gameplay looks fantastic! When I saw Subzero smashing and running through those numerous walls while holding Superman, I was like holy ****!
Most specials look really cool like that foot grab and the Flash's speed combo. The fighting mechanics look very good, I'm loving the up close kombat. The freefall I have mixed feelings about, in the short clips they look sluggish but I think that's because the player was just watching the freefall rather than throwing some punches.

-Catwoman is awesome, can't wait to use her.

-Scorpion = badass as usual, nice you can see his skull after many hits taken.

-Subzero I noticed has his cryo mask from DA which is cool. I wasn't feeling the mask from earlier. I love his design now 10/10. The ice teleport is kinda cool I don't hate the idea but seeing as he's never had a teleport move before, this is a change. The animation looks just like Smoke's from MK Armageddon.

-Shang Tsung looks like a mix of DA alternate and MK3. Sweet as hell. I'm very happy that Shang is in this game as he is one of my favorites.

-Superman has some really cool signature moves, I'll be using him for sure.

-Batman has his bat boomerang thingy, another one of my classic favorites. His fighting moves look good.

-Sonya looks super cool, this is her best look ever IMO. I'm happy to finally see her having her classic moves, this game will definitely show respect to old school Sonya fans.

-Flash is cool too. I'm loving his specials + combos. The possibilities look endless, though I hope he won't be cheap and online whores won't take advantage of abusing him.


Overall I'm impressed and definitely looking forward to more info. Glad the classic toasty fatality will be back for Scorpion. Just one part of the interview that got to me was that they might consider doing more spinoffs of this game and go back to the regular M rated MK games, what about the adventure games like Shaolin Monks? I thought that's what they had originally planned, to do a sequel every other year for adventure games. Oh well.
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07/05/2008 04:09 PM (UTC)
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MINION, thanks for uploading the vid to youtube. It's amazing!
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07/05/2008 04:34 PM (UTC)
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MINION Wrote:
Check Wrote:
there are a few parts missing in minions youtube link, but for the most part, its all there.

thanks again minion for uploading that.

I noticed that. My apologies.


no need for that, my friend. you did a great job. thanks again for your great help, because some of us who saw it last night were dying to see it again before we went to sleep!! grin you rocked me right to bed bro, kudos.
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07/05/2008 06:14 PM (UTC)
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This game is going to kick ass, im excited to play this game, its cool how you can get ur apponent and carry him threw some buildings
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TheOmniOni
07/05/2008 06:21 PM (UTC)
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Yep, Shang looked badass. They nailed the new look for him exactly how most fans were hoping for a mix between MKDA and MK3. (Though to be honest for some reason I thought he looked like MKA Kai at first, maybe it's the hair) Just give him double and triple fireballs again and he's perfect in every way! And his two new moves are great! The teleport and the falling fireball. (again causing Kai confusion)
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07/05/2008 06:28 PM (UTC)
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I wonder if they'll put this updated wallpaper on the website-
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7332/wallpaperjd3.png

I think it looks much better than the one released a couple of months ago when the game was first announced. Batman and Subby look much better.
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07/05/2008 06:50 PM (UTC)
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i watched it, i was very impressed, im actually hyped to play as shang tsung for once.

i also listened to the MKast, and about the hints being out there in the media, im pretty sure i know one MK character thats going to be revealed, but i dont want to say the name in fear of being wrong tongue

just read the magazine articles, in my mind, they hint at one or 2 characters. the scans were leaked somewhere. just read them!

game looks good, my only question is, wil there be GORY fatalities? toasty i can see being in a T game, but will there be such finishers as the spine rip or any sort of dismemberment?

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07/05/2008 06:52 PM (UTC)
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The game looks great, as a matter of fact, it's the best looking MK game that I have ever seen. I don't know why some people are saying this game looks like DA or deception, but hey, theres always going to be haters.

I love the ripped clothes and the bruises. Sonya looks amazing. She has been restored to her original self! And Catwoman is also badass. Shang looks great too.
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07/05/2008 06:54 PM (UTC)
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Not quite sure if anyone noticed but, Sub-Zero slide away move is back as well. smile
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07/05/2008 06:59 PM (UTC)
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Games looking vey good,love the wall smashing bit.
Its not in soul calibur 4 league but its coming along real good. Now only if the mk team could make create a fighter like sc4 where you can alter everything from height weight and body mass.
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07/05/2008 07:06 PM (UTC)
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cyberdog Wrote:
Games looking vey good,love the wall smashing bit.
Its not in soul calibur 4 league but its coming along real good.
Now only if the mk team could make create a fighter like sc4 where you can alter everything from height weight and body mass.


And thats the mistake people made, they keep wanting MK to be like it's compition. Let MK be MK. You shouldn't expect MK to look like Soul Calibur because its not Soul Calibur, its MK.
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07/05/2008 07:13 PM (UTC)
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It does look from the footage that the fighting engine is much improved,like the way special moves can be used to sting combos togeather.
Dont be shocked if they announce som kind of create a fighter mode at e3.
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07/05/2008 07:24 PM (UTC)
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cyberdog Wrote:
It does look from the footage that the fighting engine is much improved,like the way special moves can be used to sting combos togeather.
Dont be shocked if they announce som kind of create a fighter mode at e3.


If so, I hope the KAF is really advanced then it was in MKA and that there are no restrictions like "Only the men get this and the women get that" especially when its a unisex clothing or accessory.
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07/05/2008 07:33 PM (UTC)
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I will admit, the characters are moving a lot smoother this time around.

It is finnally staring to look like a MK game. Plus, Catwoman is dressed for a MK game. That makes it much, much better.

The whole free fall bit is kind of cool, but I think it needs a bit of improvement. The camera should not stay in that one angle. It is unfair to the vunerable player.

The fact that Superman can freeze people pissesme the hell off! The freezeing should stick to Sub-Zero, and Sub-Zero only. Frost couldn't even freeze people, and she's the female Sub-Zero!

Flash seems too much like Kabal for me. The whole spinning people thing, that's gotta get removed like, now.

The fighiting engine doesn't look any different. It still looks as if the player is dialing in combos. That's gotta change.

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Kamionero
07/05/2008 07:43 PM (UTC)
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the effects are kinda cool... but motion capture is still like chunky...

anway... Subzero sure has a lot of teleport moves!
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07/05/2008 08:10 PM (UTC)
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My overall concern is for the kombat modes added to the game. It's still early and much can change but Freefall Kombat seems rather stiff and all characters seem to have the same Freefall move set. Klose Kombat doesn't really interest me honestly. I am curious how Klose Kombat is engaged, hopefully it isn't just by getting close to the other character.

Catwoman in action looks promising though. I enjoyed seeing her fight and getting a peak at her special moves. We'll have to see once more videos come along.

I'm not too huge of a fan of everyone having teleports. I wish they would have at least changed the animation for Sub-Zero's teleport instead of re-using Rain's.
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07/05/2008 08:20 PM (UTC)
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Pink_Ranger Wrote:

I'm not too huge of a fan of everyone having teleports. I wish they would have at least changed the animation for Sub-Zero's teleport instead of re-using Rain's.

Yep, he also does smokes animation in the process, I hope this is changed in the final build as well.
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