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04/05/2006 09:26 AM (UTC)
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deathgrave Wrote:
oh god that is quite OUT THERE as far as odd MK storylines go

But admitteddly possible.

I dont think it would happen, although if it did do, Jade would surely have to become a bigger hero than she already is.
Also Tanya supposedly doesnt have enough fans for something that makor to happen to her.
I suppose its not dependent on fans i know, BUT there surely would be some outcry about it.

I would however like to see a female end boss in the next gen. Like some scantily clad crazy dark sorceress.


I don't see why she should have to have a fan base to allow her story to advance and progress. Scorpion has arguably the biggest fanbase and his story has been the same damn thing throuhout the series. If there was an outcry, I think people would more than likely be doing it because she's female or because they'd view it as too dramatic a change for her. I would say it'd be a bit hypocritical as many as sick of ehr current storyline. It's time for a change.

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I don't see anyone receiving so much storyline building at this point. Even the people who are considering Blaze will be this game's final boss will have to hope that MK Unchained builds on his character enough for that to be true.

However, in the case of Tanya I feel the time is pretty much over. This will be the end of much of the MK cast's stories and since Tanya is relatively not very popular among the MK fanbase she most surely will meet her demise in this game. I feel it's far too much of a twist at this point in the storyline, where things are being wrapped up rather than more things being unwrapped.


Sadly I have to agree. I suppose MKD and MKU would be everyone's last chance at a proper story build up.

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that story is a little fantasic isn't it.
yeah it's a possibility but i seriously don't think it's happening, her story for the two games she's been in is "i hate jade" and "i'm about to betray whoever i'm working for and join someone else".
i don't think anyone's going to change that about her.


There's nothing her story that suggests she hates Jade. Jade just viewed her as a traitor and that's all we know of that relationship.

As for the betrayal, she's power hungry so it's in her nature. She serves not through choice but under threat and would then seek to gain the upper hand at the right opportunity. This story would be the ultimate triumph for her.

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the day tanya becomes emperess or w.e is the day i croke in my bed while wearing a bunnysuit doing the nutron dancee or w/e i rather see mokap the ultimate boss lol


Lol! I have to agree with my bro, YingYeung about that one! tongue
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04/05/2006 09:39 AM (UTC)
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ProudNintendofan Wrote:
May Tanya die a horrible death....

But as for her being the boss, there would be Hell to pay if Midway did this.


Why would that be?

Keith Wrote:

Anyway, Tanya as a boss? I would be so happy on so many levels. One is that it would piss of so many users here but I'm just being spiteful...hehe...and two, Tanya is one of my top favourite 4 characters. I've loved her since MK4 and I can't wait to see what happens to her in MKA. In her MKD ending it showed that Tanya was nowhere near as naive as Baraka yet still more interested in the Kamidogu than Mileena, those two being Onaga's lead lackies.

She knew that once Onaga had the Kamidogu her life was over and so went one step further than just stop him. She risked everything including her own life for power. Onaga might not have been that easily fooled but even if you were a 12 foot tall dragon man and was just handed the greatest weapon of all time you would be a little distracted.

I would love to see Tanya as the boss or sub-boss but knowing that that won't happen (Boon said it himself, she's tiny) I would still like to see her story in MKA retain elements of her MKD ending. I also don't want anything from Jade's. I don't want Tanya scarred. I don't really like the glass orb idea and I certainly don't like the idea of Jade becoming another one of those vengeful bitches in MK. Jade is one of the very few characters in the game I see as completely pure and I don't see her accepting Tanya as a formidable opponent, more of an arrogant child.


Tanya's size shouldn't have anything to do with her beign boss. Besides, if she has the Kamidogou, she should be able to 'warp reality' and so change her size and body with all that power. She could do anything she wanted.

I too don't want to see Tanya scarred. I dislike the idea and I also hated the idea that Jade was trapped by the Tarkata in the way she was. Imo, I think jade just saw Tanya as a raitor as she was simply stood with Onaga. I don't think there's a history there. Jade just knows Tanya and instantly labelled her as a traitor. We know she is for sure. As much as this storyline should progress, I also agree with your view on Jade's purity. I don't now if she should try to hunt down Tanya. But it'd add a bit of needed spice to both their stories.

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I honestly wouldn't like that idea at all, Tanya is just about my least favorite character.

I really don’t see how they could evolve her to look remotely boss like. And if they kept her current “female robin” look as I call it, it would be so boring and unchallenging. And especially not in a game as important as finishing the majority of the characters off people have known for over a decade.

But still, nice theory. I like how you’re thinking outside the box.


As mentioned, she could easily warp her appearance. So they'd ahev alot to play with in changing how she looked to be the boss. Sure they could keep her normal form for us to play as and have her boss form unplayable and very, very formidable.

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As much I think would be an amazingly cool twist for Tanya, i would prefair it if she revolved around Rain and Jade in this game, her MKD ending made me feel cheated, as it was an ending that would probably never happen, but you never know!


I understand what you mean and that's why I decided to play around with the ending a little. It's a shame as I think with characters like Tanya, they don't really care about developing their stories much.

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ummm i dont think tnya would realy make a good boss...maybe if sumthing happens with his story i would say dark raiden would be a good boss wouldent u think so???...but not tanya i just couldent see that, but im sure sum other people can.


I would never want to see Raiden as a boss, but I can understand why people would be more accepting of him as a boss than Tanya. It's a shame really.
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04/05/2006 11:13 AM (UTC)
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It would be cool if there were multiple ending/boss scenarios.

For example in one ending Sektor is the boss after reprogramming Smoke and Cyrax to ally with him therefore the 3 would be the last 3 you would fight in story mode,

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Nitara as final boss due to storyline of Vampires winning some kind of war of the realms

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Sheeva, Kintaro, Goro

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Red or Black Dragon in rank order

Just examples guys but the variety in multiple possibilities would add life to single player story mode.

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04/05/2006 04:32 PM (UTC)
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Wow, im impress with the speculation. Not only it will add some depth into Tanya's character/personality but it will be a HUGE twist to the game. Nicely done wink.
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04/05/2006 06:42 PM (UTC)
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lol...um...I just don't see it happening. To me, Tanya's MKD ending was too farfetched and very very predictable.

Tanya is basically the female version of Kano except she's much much older and is Edenian.

I honestly think it's too late for Tanya in terms of story. She should just die and never return. She's one of my most hated characters.

While Scorpion's storyline isn't that great right now thanks to the damn retconning, I disagree with what you said about Scorpion's story being the same in all of the games he's been in. At least he has a new direction. Tanya doesn't. She's still the same power-hungry backstabber trying to survive by kissing the ass of a high evil power to ultimately turn against that power and obtain great power herself...just like Kano.

If that story direction did happen, it would be a crap way to end this chapter in the MK story.

Maybe she would've been more likeable if she had more of a backstory and that her character had something unique going for it.

So, I'm going to agree with PNF and hope Tanya will die a horrible death that she deserves.
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04/05/2006 07:24 PM (UTC)
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Well to be honest, Tanya had two games to get a storyline, one was the introduction game (MK4) which brought her out as the traitor and then MKD (filled us in on her absence and she did have a big role in MKA, she found the info to fuse the Kamidogu).

However, Scorpion has had 6 games to develop his spanning over a decade and a half, seems hardly fair.
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04/05/2006 07:50 PM (UTC)
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It's a possibility; not extremely likely like my King Sub-Zero idea is though tongue (wait and see...)
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04/05/2006 09:13 PM (UTC)
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I still don’t understand how bitching about Scorpion seemingly ends up in almost every topic. Scorpion was basically a side character until Deadly Alliance.

Tanya may not have been in every game, but there has been a character with her traits in every game. Actually, I would like to see a female boss. But, definitely not Tanya. Maybe it’s because I hate the whole edenian plotline. It should have stopped with Kitana and Sindel, I don’t care about the peaceful exact double of the earth, let it be destroyed. It’s supposed to be about Earths survival against the other offensive realms, not wasting time protecting a completely new realm that serves no threat.
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04/05/2006 09:29 PM (UTC)
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I would rather see Tanya as a boss rather than Onaga or Shao Kahn again. Even Blaze. I don't really see him as a boss-type, personality wise. I don't even know why fans don't like her. What is so wrong with her? She would make a cooler boss than Unknown from TTT. I think it is a wonderful idea Tgrant, can't wait to see your other possibilites.
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04/06/2006 02:38 AM (UTC)
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Well, it's a twist. Dunno if it would turn out to be a good one or not, but it's a cool idea in theory at least.

I like how we'd have a female boss for a change, especialy without fear of her being too "weak", since she's doubled up w/ the one being. Definitely an original scenario, since MK has never had a true female boss or sub boss (although kia, sareena or jataaka from MKMSZ kinda were bosses. They were cool too.)

However, it's too big of a leap for a character that the majority dislike. Blaze at least, has that mystique about him, particularly now he is huge. Even Blaze dislikers have to appreciate the potential improvement. Tanya though, going by the render, is just Tanya, same as she was in MKD, which was pretty much the same as she was in MK4...

In actuality, her best apperance thus far was in Tobias' MK4 comic. How lame is that?

So although this is an original, creative theory, it just isn't plausible.
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04/07/2006 06:43 PM (UTC)
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krsx66 Wrote:
Well, it's a twist. Dunno if it would turn out to be a good one or not, but it's a cool idea in theory at least.

I like how we'd have a female boss for a change, especialy without fear of her being too "weak", since she's doubled up w/ the one being. Definitely an original scenario, since MK has never had a true female boss or sub boss (although kia, sareena or jataaka from MKMSZ kinda were bosses. They were cool too.)

However, it's too big of a leap for a character that the majority dislike. Blaze at least, has that mystique about him, particularly now he is huge. Even Blaze dislikers have to appreciate the potential improvement. Tanya though, going by the render, is just Tanya, same as she was in MKD, which was pretty much the same as she was in MK4...

In actuality, her best apperance thus far was in Tobias' MK4 comic. How lame is that?

So although this is an original, creative theory, it just isn't plausible.


Thanks alot, bro!

Sure it's a huge leap for a character like her, but isn't that what she needs to put her amongst the greats of MK and actually popularise herself or at least make her somewhat more likeable?

And if this were to happen, the render is just there to give a false impression. It'd be a huge surprise at the last moment and you find out who your boss is and you see Tanya morphing into some new form.

Legacy Wrote:
I would rather see Tanya as a boss rather than Onaga or Shao Kahn again. Even Blaze. I don't really see him as a boss-type, personality wise. I don't even know why fans don't like her. What is so wrong with her? She would make a cooler boss than Unknown from TTT. I think it is a wonderful idea Tgrant, can't wait to see your other possibilites.


I'm glad you appreciate the theory and idea, dude! Thanks to you, TomTaz, Tyrant and everyone else who liked it too. smile
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04/07/2006 08:07 PM (UTC)
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Okay, why is there so many posts about Blaze being the final boss? He's a bitch!

Tanya shouldn't be the boss for MKArmageddon, but the boss for MK8. She is the only woman who has what it takes to sit in throne and kick ass while doing it.
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04/07/2006 08:13 PM (UTC)
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I think it would be great having Tanya as boss. It would be the best thing to happen to the series. Because at the moment, the MK storyline is in desparate need of a little twist, something different and interesting to liven it up. It's too dried out and stale as it is.
Who cares if she is 'tiny'? Why do all MK bossess have to be run of the mill big, fat, bulky, dumb, dragonish, cheesy males? Tanya would be a great boss if done in the right way with the right effects. Female bosses have been done before, with Tekken Tag and 'Unknown'.
With Tanya's history in magic, and with the kamigodua-lala, her power could be unmatched. How about making her move her arena at will, slowing down and distorting time, hurling things at you, surrounded by a powerful aura making her look formidable and deranged?
It would be an opportunity for some creativeness, something a little different with more strategy that just kicking the hell out of some muscled monster. And also completing her story arc that so many people want. It would be the ultimate act of betrayal and no coming back for her.

I'm all with ya! There needs to be a female boss. that's fighting game history right there! Tanya's size is very decieving. She's a total ass kicker! Whoever can't Tanya being a boss has some serious issues.
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I really don’t see how they could evolve her to look remotely boss like.

They don't. She already has her look, and she looks damn good.
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04/07/2006 08:34 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
somnambulist Wrote:
I think it would be great having Tanya as boss. It would be the best thing to happen to the series. Because at the moment, the MK storyline is in desparate need of a little twist, something different and interesting to liven it up. It's too dried out and stale as it is.

Who cares if she is 'tiny'? Why do all MK bossess have to be run of the mill big, fat, bulky, dumb, dragonish, cheesy males? Tanya would be a great boss if done in the right way with the right effects. Female bosses have been done before, with Tekken Tag and 'Unknown'.

With Tanya's history in magic, and with the kamigodua-lala, her power could be unmatched. How about making her move her arena at will, slowing down and distorting time, hurling things at you, surrounded by a powerful aura making her look formidable and deranged?

It would be an opportunity for some creativeness, something a little different with more strategy that just kicking the hell out of some muscled monster. And also completing her story arc that so many people want. It would be the ultimate act of betrayal and no coming back for her.





I'm all with ya! There needs to be a female boss. that's fighting game history right there! Tanya's size is very decieving. She's a total ass kicker! Whoever can't Tanya being a boss has some serious issues.


Yeah, that serious issue is an A degree in Literary Criticism.
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04/08/2006 07:26 PM (UTC)
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Riyakou Wrote:
Okay, why is there so many posts about Blaze being the final boss? He's a bitch!

Tanya shouldn't be the boss MKArmageddon, but the boss for MK8. She is the only woman who has what it takes to sit in throne and kick ass while doing it.


As much as I appreciate the bumping of my thread, please don't post so many times ina row like that. Edit your post.

And I agree with what you say abut her having what it takes to be the boss. If she survives MKA, then maybe we might see her in MK8, but I doubt it. I don't see them usig her past this game and even if she did make it, she most likely wouldn't be the boss. If they were to have a female boss, it'd be someone new I bet.
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04/09/2006 01:31 AM (UTC)
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I've thought about the prospect of future MK bosses, not to this extent but gender-wise. I think if not for MKA, a female boss would be a great surprise to the MK games for next gen consoles.
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04/10/2006 09:00 AM (UTC)
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04/10/2006 06:10 PM (UTC)
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Keith Wrote:
Well to be honest, Tanya had two games to get a storyline, one was the introduction game (MK4) which brought her out as the traitor and then MKD (filled us in on her absence and she did have a big role in MKA, she found the info to fuse the Kamidogu).

However, Scorpion has had 6 games to develop his spanning over a decade and a half, seems hardly fair.


Ermac and Bo' Rai Cho have had 2 games as well, but they have more going for their stories than Tanya does. I think the best possible way to improve Tanya's storyline is to go the direction XiahouDun84 went with his Tanya story idea by making her very cunning and tactical as opposed to being the female Kano as she basically was in MK4 and MKD. She needs more fleshing out of her overall story and this is something that Bo' Rai Cho has gotten.

And sure, Scorpion's story has turned to shit due to retconning and stuff, but even he still has some potential left for some interesting story ideas.
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04/10/2006 09:52 PM (UTC)
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Hmm another idea right here:

Tanya could KILL Jade, turning her into something more than the female Kano (that is unless Kano kills Sonya)

Then i could see her as a sub-boss, perhaps allying with *gasp* Darrius, and trying to cause a political upheaval in Edenia. I say this because of 2 reasons:

A - Could POSSIBLY have love interest in Darrius
B - Has Darrius' rebel army to help her with plans.

Also Havik could be thrown into the mix somehow to increase the Chaos in Edenia, perhaps starting the ball rolling for Tanya to make a move or something on Edenia.

Just throwin ideas into the mix.
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04/11/2006 06:00 AM (UTC)
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I think Tanya fits better as an abused/kicked arround lackey who wants to be something more but never gets there.... I predict it's not even Jade who kills her, but whoever the main bad guy is, he'll get tired of her going "I wanna call my mother!!!!"wink (Double Jeopardy pun... in case ppl dont get it)
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04/12/2006 03:23 AM (UTC)
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Heh, I would love it if Tanya became the boss. About her look, it wouldn't need to change; she already has the look and personality that would make for a great boss. I mean, yea the whole psycho macho man boss thing is okay; but a cunning, heartless, intelligent, deceitful sexy female boss with immense power is sooo much more interesting. And it would be well-deserved for her, because we will have actually gottent to see her work for her power. Geez just talking about it is getting my hopes up, only for them to fall, because I don't think that it will happen. Still no one can deny that Tanya as a boss would be one bad@ss b!tch. Smart, sexy, and evil makes for best kind of boss.

In fact, I'll even go as far as to say that she would make a good boss for future games as well. While still not likely IMO, I really don't think that she should die. She's got serious potential to be very unique, and MKA could be a great foundation for a well-developed story for her.
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04/12/2006 04:10 PM (UTC)
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Tanya as the boss? Hm, that would be cool, and unexpected; heck who would have ever thought of Noob Saibot and Smoke being mid-bosses, and Reptile being the final boss (even though he's just a vessel). As much as I doubt the idea, it'd be interesting to see in a future game, but not Armageddon.
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04/12/2006 04:35 PM (UTC)
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Well... I'm not a big Tanya's fan (in fact, I hate her^^)... Sure it would be a good twist for her being the new boss, but maybe this would be a bit late, because MKA will be the last game with the major of the actual generation of kombattants... And we have a lot of potential final bosses : Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Shao Kahn, Shinnok, Onaga... I would be a bit deceived if Tanya replaces them all... :/
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04/12/2006 05:25 PM (UTC)
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Kamionero Wrote:
I think Tanya fits better as an abused/kicked arround lackey who wants to be something more but never gets there.... I predict it's not even Jade who kills her, but whoever the main bad guy is, he'll get tired of her going "I wanna call my mother!!!!"wink (Double Jeopardy pun... in case ppl dont get it)


That sounds more like Shang Tsung, imo....
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04/12/2006 08:30 PM (UTC)
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tanya will never be a boss
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