And a nonsensical crossover gimmick is going to solve MK's problems?

My ass.

Exactly, I wouldn't mind seeing future MKVSDC games BUT if we MUST try yet again to get the MK series to its former glory, we can just have it be that the DC characters goes back to their world after this threat and the MK characters are forced to fight a new threat, aka MK9.

It's DC you TWAT, this could change the enitre MK franchise, this can make MK even bigger. You read my first post, you know i'm right, this cross over opens up a whole new world of potential.

No, you're going on about how my opinion is basically a joke compared to yours. You even said "Don't make me laugh" so what am I supposed to assume? You want to debate, fine but don't make it look like you think that my opinion is just a big laugh festival.

I would rather see a new MK with new characters starting fresh after Armegeddon than DC comic characters. Is this really so much to ask?

I do mean it.

Judging from 99% of crossovers I've seen, they're going to approach this game continuity-wise as painlessly as possible so as not to alienate the fanbase from either side who doesn't follow the story.

Therefore, considering the high probability that Liu Kang and Raiden are going to be in this...do you believe they're going to keep Liu dead or Raiden "dark?" Probably not. That's one reason I don't want this game to be canon....because they will therefore have to justify why Kang & Raiden are back to normal and I don't want them back to normal. I wanted to see the "dark" Raiden story carried through and I want Liu Kang fucking dead and gone.

I got into the whole "new chapter" thing and was hoping the next generation of Mortal Kombat was going to put most of the dried out sacred cows away and allow the fresher characters like Sareena, Havik, Nitara, etc to carry on. And the few older characters that did make it in, I wanted new directions for them. If Kitana came back, I wanted her done with Edenia.

Whatever story is going to be for this game, I don't see there being an emphasis on moving forward. They're focusing on the "icons" and therefore will most likely present them in an "iconic" fasion. Why does Sub-Zero look like he's wearing the generic ninja uniform again? Because that's his "iconic" look.

To me, trying to make this absurd crossover with DC into the "new era" and chapter of MK's story is like throwing in the towel. Like they gave up on any possible REAL new directions and are now just trying to teach old dogs new tricks.

So we might get some more shitty movies and even worse TV shows. Whoopti-woo. So we might see comics that could rip apart the the canon even more. Huzzah.

No thanks.

Mortal Kombat's problems stemmed from an over-reliance on gimmicks, rushed production, and too much emphasis on quantity over quality. Merging with DC won't solve those problems.

Agreed. Most DC movies suck anyways, so what would that do for MK?

Isn't that disposable nature of a crossover all the more reason to demand significance from the development on MK's side?

I mean, we're talking about fantasy scenarios here.
Why be so narrow sighted as to hope for a complete waste of time? Why not aspire to a game that does buck against those trends to develop the MK plot further.


I don't know who's talking about this as "the new era", but I'm certainly not.
I wouldn't execpt a crossover game to suddenly sculpt a new era, but what I don't think is unreasonable is to expect some forward momentum. The game's plot can go as deep, or as shallow as the makers want it to.

There's more than enough room to maneuver some forward momentum.
We can define whether or not Liu Kang and Raiden will move the way you think they will -- or not. I think you're blurring the lines of distinction between progress and total reinvention. The latter is something you've got to take ownership of, because that's an expectation you've introduced.

There's no reason for the characters to freeze in time.
It's unreasonable to ask for total reinvention, and frankly, I don't know why you'd want that. But at the same time, there's no reason to totally abandon progress. There's plenty of room for the MK cast to develop on their own terms. How stepping forward in the lives of these characters can be more of a cop-out than a total waste of time is something I can't understand.

And not only that but I think Boon had this planned all along to be honest. He stated that there would be a bunch of new characters in MK8 did he not? He did say MK8 would be dark and gritty did he not? Did we know that the new characters would be DC heroes and villains? No, but I can gurantee you Boon has been planning this maybe well before MKA. MKA was supposed to be the last current gen MK game and they gave us all 63 characters so we could bid farewell to the mk's of the past.

Also, Boon stated that the cause for MKVSDC is due to a huge magical event, what would be a better time for that event to happen than during MKA? I think this game will kind of shy away from the continuity just a little bit, but I promise you it will either pick up after or atleast hint at the events of MKA.

The thing is guys, we've given the MK team soooo many chances at trying to make a "dark and serious" MK game and to be honest, they can't do it. But I'm pretty sure they can do something like this work! Its time for MK to become bigger and by there being soo many DC characters the potential of future stories and threats are endless. And there could be new kombatants created to up the number of MK characters, but since MK and DC would be merged all characters would be family.

Ok, i'm going a little crazy, maybe we should just wait until the game comes out to see if its a perfect match.

Nah. This was (admittedly) marketing people at work, and the deal was probably made well into development. Boon was talking about a canon game for MK8. Not this. I'm positive.

But I do agree with you that this will surely take place AFTER MKA. And to me that says that this game is canon. But not as much canon as though DC will forever be in MK. It just means that wherever MK goes after this, could be the freshest start we've ever had in an MK game.
Hell, hopefully this will teach them a few things, like how to animate characters, or how to tell a story, or how many quality rendered scenes an MK story needs to be told properly, or how not all characters should have the same freaking voice... etc.

I'm the least excited I've been for an MK release on this one, but I do see how this could be good for the continuation of the series. But if all MK's are now MK vs. DC, then MK's pretty much done in my mind.
DC doesn't need MK to make a good fighter. MK certainly doesn't need DC. The mix is intriguing at best, completely asinine at worst.

I just hope they pick up new techniques and get to working on a true MK fighter next. Then maybe in another 8 releases they can pimp out another MK vs. DC for shits and giggles.