sindel (on top of the lower tier ) and li mei are in the lower tier w/ scrub~zero .. but mileena is indeed a high mid tier character, her 2nd stance is WAY to good!!

when ever a new list comes out, it should still focus mainly on the ps2 and xbox versions..

high tier has only 3 characters in my opinion

1~bo rai cho
2~noob~smoke
3~dairou

Kabal should also be higher, if played correctly he is pretty confusing

...I don't know much about MKD's game mechanics to judge on a tier but in my opinion I just have this hunch that Goro is gonna be one of the highest tiers in GC version of MK:D.

I've played with him a while, not that long, but he seems like a really awesome character. Spinning Slaps is pretty powerful, Leaping Stomp seems rather useless though. But where is really shines is with Tremor Pound. It's like the next Tombstone Drop for crying out loud. It even gets people in the air. His throw is pretty good too I think, and while he doesn't have much combos, he's strong enough without them.

I haven't messed with Kahn much, but it doesn't seem like he will be as good as Goro.

Wow! Nice work, I'll take this list into consideration. However, I am happy to see Scorpion on the top tier.

BTW, have you had the chance to play the Gamecube version and rank Goro and Shao Kahn accordingly?

Kira is on the very bottom? :( Poor her...

when will this list be updated...?

Not for awhile methinks

I can come up with an updated version in a few days and post it here. It will be pretty accurate, and I'll include Goro/Kahn.

ok that would be cool!

sweet. Look forward to an updated list.

Here's the new list, with all of the new (and old) info that was not taken into account for the original list:

PS2/X-BOX:
01. Bo' Rai Cho
02. Noob-Smoke
03. Dairou
04. Kobra
05. Scorpion
06. Darrius
07. Liu Kang
08. Shujinko
09. Mileena
10. Raiden
11. Jade
12. Baraka
13. Tanya
14. Kabal
15. Ashrah
16. Hotaru
17. Nightwolf
18. Ermac
19. Kenshi
20. Sindel
21. Li Mei
22. Havik
23. Sub-Zero
24. Kira

GAMECUBE:
01. Bo' Rai Cho
02. Noob-Smoke
03. Kobra
04. Scorpion
05. Darrius
06. Liu Kang
07. Mileena
08. Raiden
09. Jade
10. Shujinko
11. Baraka
12. Tanya
13. Kabal
14. Dairou
15. Ashrah
16. Hotaru
17. Goro
18. Nightwolf
19. Ermac
20. Kenshi
21. Shao Kahn
22. Sindel
23. Li Mei
24. Havik
25. Sub-Zero
26. Kira

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Any questions, feel free to ask. Also, if you quote this post, please don't quote the entire thing! lol
EDIT: Updated, swapped Scorp and Darrius, moved Tanya up.

damn, i gotta start learning mileena...

Hmm... Sub-Zero sure dropped a couple of slots, let me guess, it's the infinites that put Havik + others above him?

no its because subby is that bad.. it'll take luck and a real skilled person to win alot w/ him..

Ofcouse, but what made him sucking even more compared to the 1st version?

I think it's things like the revomal of the Low Claw Strike (D + 3) in Dragon as well as less fluidity and stuff. Also, the uppercut in Dragon sucks compared to the way it was in MKDA. Kori Blade is better overall though the kicks got worse.

It really sucks that Sub-Zero is low tier again. That pisses me off. I'm not saying that he should be god tier or anything. It's just that they way they made him disappoints me. They should've kept Dragon the way it was in MKDA (but a bit stronger) as well as keep the way the Sweep Kick and Back Kick were in Kori Blade.

I think if it weren't for certain things, I'd actually like the MKDA Sub-Zero more in terms of gameplay even though he was considered low tier in that game as well.

Although it's very disheartning seeing Mileena at the bottom tier list, I agree with the tier list. Good work guys!

No infinites were taken into account for my list, If I added them, the top tier would have 12 characters lol...right under the "God" tier of Bo/N-S/Dairou.

Mileena is not low tier anymore man, she is too good and in the high-mid spot.
It's not that Sub sucks worse than his MKDA counterpart...it's just that everyone else got that much better, plus all the broken shit that Sub has none of.

Eveything looks ok to me.

Just one question: without the infinites, what makes NS better than Dairou? It seems to me that Dairou is always dangerous no matter where you are, whereas NS seems to depend more on setups.

Cheers,
VainQueur (using Deadhead's computer )

Also personnally I would have put Asrah higher then Kabal (longer combos who are often unpredictible, I get my ass kick often when I pick Kabal against a good Asrah) she also have a better throw IMO

and Jade higher then Raiden because she does more damage

why did you put Kabal higher then Asrah and Raiden higher then Jade?

other then that I agree 100% with your list, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who realized that Sub-Zero is not very good in MKD.

I see...I'm glad that at least Sub-Zero isn't broken. However, there's no excuse for the programmers to fuck up his Dragon style!! >:O It was fine as it was. It just needed to be a bit stronger and have certain other combos added in like the idea Versatile was telling about (the 1, 1, 4 combo idea) which sounds good to me.

I'm glad that Sub-Zero is more powerful than he was before (or at least has the potential to be thanks to the Icy Lift in Kori Blade ). It's just that there were some things about him that should've been kept, that's all.

NS has two teleport moves and one combo per character that will put him next to Dairou no matter where he is on-screen. Plus his relatively safe 50/50 mixups and unbreakable combos. That is why he is better than Dairou. Plus, if NS corners Dairou it's over. Dairou isn't very effective up close when he has nowhere to run.

Kabal's spin can counter anything and is the perfect retaliation tool. He has huge and easy damage from any spin by doing Sun Bin u+3 to start the combo, has several safe moves that setup the spin and the Hookswords up close are a nightmare. Ashrah is faster than Kabal, but he is a better overall character.

Raiden has Nan Chuan, do you need any other explanation? lol
...j/k
2,b+2 hits mid and you follow up with f+1 for an unbreakable plant move where you can teleport and mixup again. 2nd stance d+3 is the fastest recovering sweep in the game and does a nice 7% per hit. Raiden's throw knocks you into a deathtrap also. Jade is unsafe in 90% of her attacks, Raiden is safe if you use the right moves.

Anything else?

After you execute a TS Drop,you can ONLY block for about a second.For the rest of the time (approximately 2-3 seconds) you can NOT block but you can move.Usually no character can take advantage of this because you can backdash and avoid any kind of punishments.However,BRC with his f+3 can sometimes punish you as well as N/S (Smoke) with his f,f+4.It can kind of limits Dairou,especially when you fight N/S with his f,f+4.Also,Smoke's f,f+4 hits when you teleport,shoot your fireball,or TS Drop (it's one of the few moves the TS Drop doesn't have advantage over).In any case,Dairou can keep up with N/S when played properly.BRC,N/S,Dairou are God-tiers indeed.I really don't think anyone can beat them but themselves.From my experience,a good BRC can NOT be beaten by anyone else but N/S and Dairou.BRC is just too good.

Anyway,Konqrr,why is Tanya so low?

You're right m2dave, Tanya is moved.

yeah i was gonna say something about tanyas placement.. it looks good now tho.. but uhh subby is #1 silly, y is he at the bottom??..

Can someone explain to me why Ashrah is lower tier than Jade? I play as them both pretty well, but of the two I believe Ashrah to be far superior.