This is my way of looking at it. I think there's going to be about 26 characters. That means if there's more than 26, I'll be pleasantly surprised. However, if you think there's going to be thirty and there's actually only 26, then you are going to be disappointed.

Better to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed, no?

I'm thinking there will be around 40+ characters once all the hidden ones are revealed, or at least 30+. The current select screen will most likely shrink to fit the on. I had an idea where you could flip the select screen to select the hidden characters on the other side. If it were like that, then we'd have 48 characters.

i agree with tgrant on this because midway is doin alot more this time and i think they are trying to break some previous records!

144 finishing moves (assuming 2 Fatalities per character and 1 Hara Kiri)

I don't think that's realistic. Well, at least I won't be disappointed when MKD comes out.

I hope they'll bring back all MKDA characters even if they are no-canon characters and even if they have same look than in previous game... :/

Except Blaze and Mokap all the unlockable characters were shown before MKDA came out. I think we're going to get the same thing with MKD and there's going to be a LOT of disappointed people.

To put it into perspective consider this list:

01. Liu Kang
02. Johnny Cage
03. Kano
04. Raiden
05. Scorpion
06. Sonya Blade
07. Sub-Zero
08. Reptile
09. Goro
10. Shang Tsung
11. Kung Lao
12. Sub-Zero
13. Kitana
14. Jax
15. Mileena
16. Baraka
17. Smoke
18. Jade
19. Noob Saibot
20. Kintaro
21. Shao Kahn
22. Sindel
23. Stryker
24. Cyrax
25. Sektor
26. Nightwolf
27. Sheeva
28. Kabal
29. Motaro
30. Ermac
31. Rain
32. Kai
33. Shinnok
34. Reiko
35. Jarek
36. Tanya
37. Fujin
38. Quan Chi
39. Bo'Rai Cho
40. Li Mei
41. Kenshi
42. Mavado
43. Nitara
44. Drahmin
45. Hsu Hao
46. Frost
47. Moloch
48. Sareena
49. Ashrah
50. Hotaru
51. Kira
52. Kobra
53. Dairou
54. Darrius
55. Onaga
56. Havik
57. Shujinko
58. The Dragon King

That is all the characters who have ever appeared in a MK fighting game (MKM and MKSF don't count, MKDATE does. Also not included are Meat, Mokap and Blaze)

Now if there's really 48 playable characters that would mean that only 10 people in the history of MK would be left out. How likely do you really think that is? That's 82% of all the people who've ever appeared in MK. If I add Mokap and Blaze that percentage drops to 80%. It's not realistic to think that this will happen. And unrealistic expectations are why a lot of people didn't like MKDA.

no i dont think so.. the unlockables were different in mkda.. they were already apart of the select screen.. they really werent secrets.. only mokap and blaze..i dont think their going to reveal the secret characters before mkdeception comes out..

Anyanka Wrote: Except Blaze and Mokap all the unlockable characters were shown before MKDA came out. I think we're going to get the same thing with MKD and there's going to be a LOT of disappointed people.

Yeah, I really think these unrealistic expectations are going to hurt MKD badly.

I predict when the guide comes out before the game ships we'll learn just about, if not everything, there is know about the game and there's going to be this "...so....this is it?" feeling, just like MKDA. Personally I dont care if we know things like secrets ahead of time, but many will be vastly disappointed.

Theres so much speculation and misinformation flying around you can't tell what Ed Boon has actually said or not. It's exactly like that "big secret" debacle in MKDA. If there's not 70 characters there's going to be so many pissed off people because we've seen tons of posters go around claiming all this stuff is "CONFIRMED~!". Plus you've got people like Sektor and Liu Kang who are "confirmed" despite the fact that we've seen NOTHING to confirm their presense(like we've heard Liu is in...but they NEVER said playable). How are all the Sektor fans going to feel if he's not actually in after all this hype?

the unlockables were different in mkda.. they were already apart of the select screen.. they really werent secrets..


They were darkened out.....just like MKD's...

In here, speculation quickly becomes assumption, and then assumption becomes fact, and reveals itself as disappointment when what everyone forgets began as speculation turns out to be false.

That's my list btw.. I always do it by select screen order and add Liu Kang as number 1.

By the way, Blaze and Mokap are Mortal Kombat characters, and you can't discount them just because you feel like it. Meat isn't a character, but the other two are.

You forget that Midway did UMK3, which had 26 of the 31 Mortal Kombat Characters ever created. It was missing Cage, Raiden, Baraka, Goro, and Kintaro. That's proof that Midway will do something like leave out 20% of the characters.

Bezou Wrote: To put it into perspective consider this list: 01. Liu Kang 02. Johnny Cage 03. Kano 04. Raiden 05. Scorpion 06. Sonya Blade 07. Sub-Zero 08. Reptile 09. Goro 10. Shang Tsung 11. Kung Lao 12. Sub-Zero 13. Kitana 14. Jax 15. Mileena 16. Baraka 17. Smoke 18. Jade 19. Noob Saibot 20. Kintaro 21. Shao Kahn 22. Sindel 23. Stryker 24. Cyrax 25. Sektor 26. Nightwolf 27. Sheeva 28. Kabal 29. Motaro 30. Ermac 31. Rain 32. Kai 33. Shinnok 34. Reiko 35. Jarek 36. Tanya 37. Fujin 38. Quan Chi 39. Bo'Rai Cho 40. Li Mei 41. Kenshi 42. Mavado 43. Nitara 44. Drahmin 45. Hsu Hao 46. Frost 47. Moloch 48. Sareena 49. Ashrah 50. Hotaru 51. Kira 52. Kobra 53. Dairou 54. Darrius 55. Onaga 56. Havik 57. Shujinko 58. The Dragon King That is all the characters who have ever appeared in a MK fighting game (MKM and MKSF don't count, MKDATE does. Also not included are Meat, Mokap and Blaze) Now if there's really 48 playable characters that would mean that only 10 people in the history of MK would be left out. How likely do you really think that is? That's 82% of all the people who've ever appeared in MK. If I add Mokap and Blaze that percentage drops to 80%. It's not realistic to think that this will happen. And unrealistic expectations are why a lot of people didn't like MKDA.

1. There's a lot more characters now.
2. Every character has to have a unique look (or two even)
3. Every character has to have 3 finishers (2 Fatalities, one Hara Kiri)
4. Every character has to have their own weapon style
5. Every character has to have their own fighting styles.

And you're right in that Blaze and Mokap can be included. Meat is the only one who cannot. And I'm not sure what you're getting at by saying it's "your list".

It would be difficult to put all MK Characters in the same 3D game... :/

Maybe on the next-gen consoles...

Well to keep myself happy I am just pretending that there is going to only be 7 characters like the first game. And only expect 1 fatality per character, that way I will not be upset by the select screen. Yeah I just farted. DSB

Wat about the new ality that boon said the lover ality we mite see more ways like the old ones like friendships be back is was hinted no ones sure tho. The screns gonna be huge probably with spots covered like in old games then they open when u unlock a hidded character.

tgrant Wrote: I'm thinking there will be around 40+ characters once all the hidden ones are revealed, or at least 30+. The current select screen will most likely shrink to fit the on. I had an idea where you could flip the select screen to select the hidden characters on the other side. If it were like that, then we'd have 48 characters.

this is not mortal kombat trilogy 2 your not going to get over 70 characters

There will be 25 main characters. How do I know this? Because in the special MK Deception editions, included are 25 bio videos for the characters. This is including the regular unlockable characters, but not the secret characters. I assume they wouldn't have bio vid's for a majority of characters and not others. This number may or may not include the Sub Boss and/or the Dragon King, depending on whether they're unlockable. I believe that secret characters will take the number up to about 35, but I don't believe they will go any higher than that, ten secret characters is alot for a fighting game, but its also quite a realistic expectation.

In reference to all of the uniqueness factors, the current fatalities prove they aren't too stuck on uniqueness. Most of them are just decapitations, torso rips, and explosions. They're done creatively, but they aren't anything new (Brain rips etc.) Hari Kari's can just be based on characters fatalities (See Baraka's self decapitation.)

There are hundreds of weapons. If you go through weapon books, there are so many variations of the sword, and so many ways that they're used, that they could give each character their own unique sword. Count other weapons, and you have a lot of opportunity for uniquness.

In reference to unique fighting styles, there are hundreds of martial arts to chose from in the world, more than enough for 40+ characters.

I made that list before. That exact list of characters in that exact order, and posted it on the board. I figured maybe you cut and pasted it.

Bezou Wrote: 1. There's a lot more characters now. 2. Every character has to have a unique look (or two even) 3. Every character has to have 3 finishers (2 Fatalities, one Hara Kiri) 4. Every character has to have their own weapon style 5. Every character has to have their own fighting styles. And you're right in that Blaze and Mokap can be included. Meat is the only one who cannot. And I'm not sure what you're getting at by saying it's "your list".

They can fit a complete Final Fantasy on a PS-2 DVD. those games are three times bigger than Mortal Kombat Deception. I think they'll manage.

DK1983 Wrote: It would be difficult to put all MK Characters in the same 3D game... :/ Maybe on the next-gen consoles...

There's a vast difference between 48 characters and 70 characters. I can promise you the number of characters will be atleast 37, unless Midway wimps out like they did with Deadly Alliance.

Scorpionvsermac Wrote: tgrant Wrote: I'm thinking there will be around 40+ characters once all the hidden ones are revealed, or at least 30+. The current select screen will most likely shrink to fit the on. I had an idea where you could flip the select screen to select the hidden characters on the other side. If it were like that, then we'd have 48 characters. this is not mortal kombat trilogy 2 your not going to get over 70 characters

Ya but this is more based on what they can do with 3-D and make it clean graphics.

i had FFX-2 it was great asnd you're right it was huge but what MKD is and what FFX-2 they are diffrent types of games and this has diffrent ways of dying and stuff in FFX-2 when you killed somehting those little things came out of it so they are about equal.

I'm saying this right now, and this is just my prediction, but I say that this game doesn't top 30 playable characters. With a regular 25, a boss that Boon said (correct me if I'm wrong) won't be playable in the Dragon King, more than 5 hidden characters seems lik more than the MK team would offer in a single game.

Now I think that we are going to see a few names taken off of the final roster. In the beginning, we saw Quan Chi and Kitana in Chess Kombat, so many assumed they were in MK:D, but they're not. Here's who I think won't make it into MK:D as a playable character:

Sektor: We've heard nothing and seen nothing of him in months (actually we've never seen him). I think they scrapped him

Jax: He gets announced at E3, but there are no pics, and all of a sudden we see a character that looks a little like Jax in Darrius. I think they scrapped Jax in favor of putting a new character in the game.

Skab: Rumor has it he's Onaga or Havik, so either way that's one more name taken off the list.

I'll be one more name gets taken off too. I'll bet when all is said and done, including hidden characters and blacked out characters etc, we'll have 28 playable characters. Again, just my prediction. I hope that number is low, and I'm trying to gamble conservitavely here. I would love to see 40+ but I don't see that happening. 30 tops, but I say a few less than that number.

Anyanka Wrote: Yeah, I really think these unrealistic expectations are going to hurt MKD badly.

It's not going to hurt MKD, it's just going to hurt those who believe everything they read on a message board. Boon and Co. can't help that BS spreads like the plague on the internet. DA was great, the only way it could be ruined is if people still bought into all the MK Urban Legends. Really, the only thing I felt was missing from DA was second fatalities and pit fatalities. Both are in the game as well as the added Hari Karis, expanded roster, more stages, badass new boss, online play, and three side games. Geez, what more could people want? Sektor? Big freakin deal. I mean, I want Quan Chi in the game, sure, but I'm not going to throw a tantrum like some people will just because they read on a message board he was "confirmed" to be in.