This game will never be realistic in terms of characters, storyline or even fatalities. I think people are crying that the game doesn't follow exact forms of fighting games and moves aren't realistic enough to master and have combos. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely loving this game at the moment, no matter what other people are saying, but I'm sick and tired of people putting it down or complaining about the little things... like the fatalities.
To all the haters out there, we don't need you in a board like this. Leave the MK forums to the true fans who can admire the work that Boon and the others have put into this game.

bigdatfaz77 Wrote: To all the haters out there, we don't need you in a board like this. Leave the MK forums to the true fans who can admire the work that Boon and the others have put into this game.

For the love of god..
How many fucking times are people going to say that?
Go to the link i provided, and read some of those posts. Namely Alpha_Q_Up's.

I completely agree.
The 'complaining' thread barely touches upon anything important I'm afraid, just incidental slights...Nightwolfs fingers, recycled animation, blood trickling down the bodies. I'm sorry, these 'faults' are very minor when looking at the game as a whole.
This is a huge cliche on here, but I think I'd take complaints and criticisms seriously when we have all played the game. The reason being that I'm predicting a flurry of praising comments within the first few months...people who have played the game and appreciated this product as a whole, rather than picking out small faults. Then when the complaints do happen, they would be from experience and first hand sources.

The thing is that we don't really have to wait to play the game to know what needs fixing.
We know almost everything about the game and how it plays.
These things have been shown to us and explained several times by boon him self and other people that have already played the old and new versions of the game.
Yeah, there are some things that require playing the game to be able to critique better, but then there is a ton of stuff that we can get from visual and verbal explanations.

hahahahahhaa krackerrjack, u took the words right outta my mouth hahahhaa

Deception sucks,please don't cry!

i dont know what everyone is complaining about this is the best frickin mortal kombat yet and im sure they are only gonna get betta

Well to help you understand, we are comparing MK to other fighting games and ideas that are in our heads, not just past MK games.
Also people post things that they think would make the game better. Yes IMO MKD is the best MK ever, but could it be even better.....YES!
Some people don't seem to be able to grasp this concept. It's as if they can't see past what's already there. The people posting ideas for improvements can see past what's shown to them and can come up with new ideas.
That's a good thing,not a bad thing.
Also, no fighting game is perfect, not even VF4. There is always something that can be done better.

Listen, I'm sorry to all those who seem to have something against me feeling so strongly about this game. The way I see it, there has been way too much criticism on the game and quite frankly, most of the things that people complain about are not worth it.
I can tell this will be a groundbreaking game in the MK series, and by no means will it be the greatest fighting game of all time, because I'm certain that's not what Midway are setting out to do, but rather build on the MK series and bring it to a whole new level. This is a game for all the fans who have come and grown to love what the game has had to offer and then up the ante, as well as introduce the world of Mortal Kombat to some new people. I'm sorry if to you this is complaining, but I can't sit by and watch people constantly dump on this game just because it doesn't meet their standards. If you can't accept what I'm saying or how the game is, then there's simply nothing I can do about that and I won't bother fighting back over something that is so pointless. And I don't care if this has been brought up or said a million times by people before me. I am expressing myself for what I feel and nobody can hold that against me.

If I understand you correctly.....
You and many other people believe that we should just take the game "for what it is" and if we say anything about it, it has to be good?
So we can only praise the game, not critique it?
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Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense.
If you see something that you think can be better, then why shouldn't we say it?
These are only things that can improve on the game. Not only that, but they are all valid points, no matter how small the detail of your comment is, it's still a critique about something that someone believes could be better.
Critiques are necessary for artists to be able to improve on their work easier.
That's because then they know what other people think about their work and what they want to see.
All critiquing does is "help" to make things better.
If people just say that everything looks awesome and it's perfect then they will still change some stuff, but a lot more things will stay the same.
Simply because they just didn't think about it, didn't notice it was a problem, they think we like it how it is, or they just don't think we care.
If someone voices their opinion, then the game developers will have something more to base their work off of. "Public response"
That's when a lot of their guess work will disappear because then they will know a lot more about what the public thinks can be better.
They also don't get insulted about critiques, they are professionals and as professionals they have been taking critiques for years, it's part of the job. A very important part at that.
See where I'm coming from now?

It occurs to me this is a forum for discussing ideas and opinions, and people should be free to (1) Have an opinion, and (2) express their opinion (so long as it is not vulgur or obscene). And I don't think the purpose of this forum is so that people can only talk about what they like about the game. If that were the case, I think the forum would be called "MK Deception praise forum" instead of "MK discussion forum." A persons opinon is their own, and it should not change your opinon (unless your opinion is not that strong to begin with). If you like a particular aspect of a game (like a fatality), does the fact someone does not cause you to like it any less? It should not.
Though no one can know for sure until the game actually comes out, MKD does have the possibility (a strong possibility) of being the greatest game ever created for the MK franchaise. However, you do not have to like everything about the game just because it is MK. In fact, it is the process of gamers giving constructive critiques that has led to all the improvements the franchaise has seen over the years.
Finally, keep in mind it every critism you have of MKD is spectulative at best, since any aspect of the game can still change prior to release.
Just some thoughts.

good stuff ^^^

I don't care what these haters are saying...of course it bothers me seeing people saying stupid shit about deception...but as far as I'm concerned I'll play deception like hell, I'll love every single second of it, and when I finish playing the game and unlock everything I'll write a letter to midway saying a big THANK YOU! to everyone that is in the credits of the game
these people have the right to complain about what they think it could be better on the game, but they only talk...nothing more...I would like to see them in charge of the mortal kombat project...they would cry everyday saying "I'm a loser"
these guys talk about "dumb gameplay, tekken's/vf's is a lot better" ok, so go play tekken/vf, go visit tekken/vf forums, get the hell out of mortalkombatonline...
unfortunately it is in the human nature to never be happy, I agree we have to eager for more...but this is just ridiculous...it's sad but hey, we lovers will have to ignore them and love the game...

*X*BloodyEyes Wrote: these people have the right to complain about what they think it could be better on the game, but they only talk...nothing more...I would like to see them in charge of the mortal kombat project...they would cry everyday saying "I'm a loser"

People who criticize this game(like myself) are not saying they can do it better themselves, they are simply trying to point out some of the faults in the game hoping that Ed boon and the team read the complaints and pick up on this. Think of it this way, if people wouldn't have complained about the 1 fatality each character on MKDA do you think there'd be several fatalities this time around? Highly unlikely. It's because people choose to complain and criticize that Ed Boon and the rest of the team are improving on these games.

these guys talk about "dumb gameplay, tekken's/vf's is a lot better" ok, so go play tekken/vf, go visit tekken/vf forums, get the hell out of mortalkombatonline...

Exactly who are you to tell someone they should leave? I've said this time and time again, people have the right to their own opinions and the right to voice them, just because they're not the same as yours doesn't mean you should disrespect them for it.

bigdatfaz77 Wrote: This game will never be realistic in terms of characters, storyline or even fatalities. I think people are crying that the game doesn't follow exact forms of fighting games and moves aren't realistic enough to master and have combos. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely loving this game at the moment, no matter what other people are saying, but I'm sick and tired of people putting it down or complaining about the little things... like the fatalities. To all the haters out there, we don't need you in a board like this. Leave the MK forums to the true fans who can admire the work that Boon and the others have put into this game.

yeah... ok.
theres a difference between a true fan and a moron.
i dont understand what makes you a true fan. i started playing mk ever since i was 8 years old when mk1 came out... does that make me a true fan? if i blindly followed ed boon into the abyss, does that make me a true fan? for christ sakes, who gives a shit about this true fan crap? it makes you look like loser, it really does. it reminds me of people who start crying when they see a celebrity or a music star... lame.

*X*BloodyEyes Wrote: I don't care what these haters are saying...of course it bothers me seeing people saying stupid shit about deception...but as far as I'm concerned I'll play deception like hell, I'll love every single second of it, and when I finish playing the game and unlock everything I'll write a letter to midway saying a big THANK YOU! to everyone that is in the credits of the game these people have the right to complain about what they think it could be better on the game, but they only talk...nothing more...I would like to see them in charge of the mortal kombat project...they would cry everyday saying "I'm a loser" these guys talk about "dumb gameplay, tekken's/vf's is a lot better" ok, so go play tekken/vf, go visit tekken/vf forums, get the hell out of mortalkombatonline... unfortunately it is in the human nature to never be happy, I agree we have to eager for more...but this is just ridiculous...it's sad but hey, we lovers will have to ignore them and love the game...

Right On!! My main problem with peolpe who Critique the game is that they can't do it professionally or at least try to prove their point better than just saying "This Game Fucking Sucks", "Midway and Boon are Fucking Morons" and "Who ever thinks this game is good is Retarded". If they tried to get their POV off better than that than i'm sure there would be a lot more understanding Fans out there who wouldn't be offended!

manny86 Wrote: *X*BloodyEyes Wrote: these people have the right to complain about what they think it could be better on the game, but they only talk...nothing more...I would like to see them in charge of the mortal kombat project...they would cry everyday saying "I'm a loser" People who criticize this game(like myself) are not saying they can do it better themselves, they are simply trying to point out some of the faults in the game hoping that Ed boon and the team read the complaints and pick up on this. Think of it this way, if people wouldn't have complained about the 1 fatality each character on MKDA do you think there'd be several fatalities this time around? Highly unlikely. It's because people choose to complain and criticize that Ed Boon and the rest of the team are improving on these games. these guys talk about "dumb gameplay, tekken's/vf's is a lot better" ok, so go play tekken/vf, go visit tekken/vf forums, get the hell out of mortalkombatonline... Exactly who are you to tell someone they should leave? I've said this time and time again, people have the right to their own opinions and the right to voice them, just because they're not the same as yours doesn't mean you should disrespect them for it.

ok, maybe my example of the gameplay was stupid, but my point is, I like to look and enjoy the good things rather then pinpoint the faults, ok, there are too types of criticism, the constructive, people like bleed and you, who point some things that would make MK better such as a more intricate gameplay, counters, etc and I completely agree with you guys, but there is the worthless crticism, like queve and other guys(I don't want to start a flame war, it's just something that's been bugging me) who are too damn dramatic and start threads like "what a disaster kitana is dead? wtf?", or "the tradition has been broken, sub bosses bla bla bla" or even "why sonya isn't in the game?", I mean this type of criticism takes us nowhere, people have the right to like characters but they have to understand two things
1- they can't just put characters in the game to please us (they try to please the fans by making fan favorits like ermac, sindel etc return, but they can't please everyone), these guys have to understand this instead of just telling them to go fuck themselves because sonya/nitara/rain are not in the game...
2- some characters won't fit the current storyline route...they'll explain us why sonya isn't in the game, and I think that characters like rain and nitara won't come back ever, because they made their purpose...
I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions but we have to learn from others too, instead of just making our point and ignoring the others...I've learned that mk needs a more deep gameplay, but I also see the amazing things they made with this game instead of just dissing the game because the blood is too gloopy (of course it doesn't please me, but I have 3132131321 million other things to like in the game)

This is to all the people who are overbashing the game, not people who actually have good valid points. So this excludes a lot, so again, this is for the ignorant people. Complaining is stupid. Think about it people. It's September 11'th. The game comes out October 4'th. Sure you can bitch bitch bitch about every little thing that pisses you off thats wrong with it but no matter how hard you bitch, no matter how hard you argue with other people about whats wrong, DECEPTION IS DECEPTION AND IT WONT GET FIXED!! Jesus Christ. Some of ya'll act like the game is still a year away and everything can get fixed. I can honestly say, that when the game comes out, I probably won't come back here because I joined because everyone was really hyped and excited and there were TONS of people who felt the same way I did, and you know, when the game comes out, no one is gonna say how much they enjoy it. No one is ever gonna say how fun it is. Most of ya'll are just going to keep doing what your doing now. Bitch bitch bitch. Some of ya'll are ignorant. It's like nothing is ever good enough for you. It's a GAME! Game's aren't perfect. They don't have years upon years to make it that way. They don't have years upon years to please every fucking person on the face of the earth. They don't have years upon years to make it better than the best. They have to work with what Midway gives them. What they think fits the game. And if any of you think you can do better, prove to everyone you can and get a fucking job at Midway. UNTIL THEN, shut the fuck up and appreciate the fact that even though people bitch, bitch, bitch about stuff they've worked on for so fucking long, they are still creating a series we love and haven't completely given up because of ignorant people like you whom even though you "claim" to be diehard MK fans, all you do is bitch and pick out all the little things that don't matter worth a shit. You know, to be honest, sometimes I think Deception should be the last Mortal Kombat, because Boon and his team obviously aren't doing anything to make people happy anymore and have fun. All they do is make you lot bitch! UGH!!

*X*BloodyEyes Wrote:ok, maybe my example of the gameplay was stupid, but my point is, I like to look and enjoy the good things rather then pinpoint the faults, ok, there are too types of criticism, the constructive, people like bleed and you, who point some things that would make MK better such as a more intricate gameplay, counters, etc and I completely agree with you guys, but there is the worthless crticism, like queve and other guys(I don't want to start a flame war, it's just something that's been bugging me) who are too damn dramatic and start threads like "what a disaster kitana is dead? wtf?", or "the tradition has been broken, sub bosses bla bla bla" or even "why sonya isn't in the game?", I mean this type of criticism takes us nowhere, people have the right to like characters but they have to understand two things 1- they can't just put characters in the game to please us (they try to please the fans by making fan favorits like ermac, sindel etc return, but they can't please everyone), these guys have to understand this instead of just telling them to go fuck themselves because sonya/nitara/rain are not in the game... 2- some characters won't fit the current storyline route...they'll explain us why sonya isn't in the game, and I think that characters like rain and nitara won't come back ever, because they made their purpose... I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions but we have to learn from others too, instead of just making our point and ignoring the others...I've learned that mk needs a more deep gameplay, but I also see the amazing things they made with this game instead of just dissing the game because the blood is too gloopy (of course it doesn't please me, but I have 3132131321 million other things to like in the game)

I see where you're coming from, as long as someone's mature about their opinion and give valid reasons as to their criticism you don't mind, but if they're just going to go out and say "deception sucks" or "these fatalities blow" without any reasons to back it up, then why bother complaining in the first place. That's what I'm getting out of this and if that's what you're trying to say then I couldn't agree more.

Yep, exactly what I was gonna say. It's either a biased opinion with nothing to back it up or a non-sensical one.

manny86 Wrote: *X*BloodyEyes Wrote:ok, maybe my example of the gameplay was stupid, but my point is, I like to look and enjoy the good things rather then pinpoint the faults, ok, there are too types of criticism, the constructive, people like bleed and you, who point some things that would make MK better such as a more intricate gameplay, counters, etc and I completely agree with you guys, but there is the worthless crticism, like queve and other guys(I don't want to start a flame war, it's just something that's been bugging me) who are too damn dramatic and start threads like "what a disaster kitana is dead? wtf?", or "the tradition has been broken, sub bosses bla bla bla" or even "why sonya isn't in the game?", I mean this type of criticism takes us nowhere, people have the right to like characters but they have to understand two things 1- they can't just put characters in the game to please us (they try to please the fans by making fan favorits like ermac, sindel etc return, but they can't please everyone), these guys have to understand this instead of just telling them to go fuck themselves because sonya/nitara/rain are not in the game... 2- some characters won't fit the current storyline route...they'll explain us why sonya isn't in the game, and I think that characters like rain and nitara won't come back ever, because they made their purpose... I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions but we have to learn from others too, instead of just making our point and ignoring the others...I've learned that mk needs a more deep gameplay, but I also see the amazing things they made with this game instead of just dissing the game because the blood is too gloopy (of course it doesn't please me, but I have 3132131321 million other things to like in the game) I see where you're coming from, as long as someone's mature about their opinion and give valid reasons as to their criticism you don't mind, but if they're just going to go out and say "deception sucks" or "these fatalities blow" without any reasons to back it up, then why bother complaining in the first place. That's what I'm getting out of this and if that's what you're trying to say then I couldn't agree more.

Yep, exactly what I was gonna say. It's either a biased opinion with nothing to back it up or a non-sensical one.

I'm done with people complaining. If they want to be all butt hurt about Deception and how they think it blows, I'm going to let them. They can sit there and bitch about it, cause I ain't going to read the threads. If people want to rant and rave about shit they can't change, I just let them. It makes them feel better, and what's better for me, I DON'T HAVE TO FUCKING READ THE DAMN THING. I'm not going to judge deception until it comes out. Then I'll do my bitching.
-Fuj