well no shit red
everyones seen someone do a infinite on umk3
hell i even know some
but shit thats old news

Red, please read my comment in your other thread.

Trax

my fav is the ones from mk1 they never took out. 7 yrs later nothing changed.

as the saying goes in midway, if its broken why fix it.

And I'd honestly love to see you pull those off like you do the Bo infinites, OTG's in MKD(that are pathetically easy) Red....please do so and you'll make my day.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to pull off the Reptile, Kung lao, Ermac corner, Cyrax infinites? Go on umk.com and post this please man, the game is still VERY much playable unlike MKD/MKA when compared, the online play is so much better and the games more balanced. No bo's, dairous or sareenas to go to or KAK's, MOBs...funny how you left that out.

Ha, ha you think you had a hard time against me in MKD/MKA pulling off those flaws in the games man? hehe if we ever play UMK3 I dare you to pull off any of those infinites on me. It won't happen man, all I ask from you is that you pull them off with ease, then brag about how the game sucks and has infinites. Every fighter almost has some form of infinites or tricks to abuse.


I bet not one person on this forum can pull those off, and if they do it won't be with ease unlike MKD/MKA's easy novice infinites...maybe check but that's it....still, this would be very amusing on umk.com

UMK3 is still a great game and since you're so direct on your point of view, why not just post this on UMK3.com or is it because shock will pretty much shut down any argument you have, thus why you post it on MKO? where those guys don't go anymore for the most part?

here we go again..........

no bobby, there wont be an arguement. i dont care if they are easy to pull off, the fact is there there. the ones on the wall where u repeat the dukcing low punch were in mk1. so like is said, if its broken why fix it.

its just a pattern midway follows game after game.

example, mk3 subbys clone was able to be done on the wall. the fixed it in umk3. so what do they do in mkd, make smokes cloud doable on the wall. they were king of pallete swipes, just like they remake stupid mistakes , if u no something is broke in a previous game, it should never be in a game that follows the first time it comes around.

Hahaha that shit is more broken than MKD and MKA combined. Yet everytime someone challenges MKF he makes reference to that stupid game because of his inability to compete in the present time games. Ha!!! figures.

Get ready everybody.......

Red ====> MKF ====> G_Roy ====> MKF ====> Red ====> MKF====> G_Roy... and on and on we go...

they all suck


least when we played umk it wasnt online.

however, mka is the best mk game ever made,despite its weirdness that wasnt in mkd with the blocking before being hit and still getting hit and sluggish movements per stance. add no jutsu or bdc ssc in there as well

and mkf, reds connection is so bad for me, i cant even free throw him, he can free throw me all day though.

best thing about mka is the combos and all the characters. best combos by far due to air kombat and parry cancels. and all 62 characters playable, what more could you ask for.

as for infinites, when people from mko play each other, do they use infinites on each other? there was the occasional "omg you double threw me " in mkd, but thats not even there really anymore. who cares about the infinites? noone used them ANYWHERE i played umk for close to 5 years. and EVERYWHERE i went people played without throws. so i really dont care how umk is played or any mk game is played. i play it how i want, i dont care if its broke

and for the record, im the person who found that smoke corner inf in mkd, along with pretty much everything else.

red mentioned the low punch thing in mk1, all the mk games suffer from extremly long block animations, in mka its the worse, ( you get hit even if you block before it also BlockBreaking which was also found by me in mkd ) but thank god for parry canceling... this is why they all suck. at least in mka, you can parry cancel to avoid the throw and go into a duck without having to duck block. you still get thrown if someone walks up to you and press block and try to duck = garbage. lose the block button next game boon, cuz all your mk games suck. either that or leave out the fucking throws for gods sake.

WOW lol the most ignorant comment in this thread....you would probably get killed in that game because it actually takes skill to win then be like ohh shit where the AC, 33 go?

UMk3 s NOT more broken the MKD/MKA....as many infinites in UMK3 there's like 10 x that amount in MKD/MKA when compared.

Ahh, most amusing...

To red and check, UMk3 still takes LOTS of skill to pull off those infinites, now Red you might not care but I do and so does most of the respectable players that play UMK3 on that site...I know this for fact. You guys that believe MKA is the best MK? Check I mean umm well that's your opinion man. Not fact, everyone on this site and the other sites will always throw ohh MK2 is the best, UMK3 is the best, MK4 is the best(ok rare on this one) MK:DA, MKD or MKA for their own reasons.

Now, just like everyone else on here I'm listing my view on this. If you can win with an easy flaw then brag about how good you are, that's not much skill other then mastering a mere glitch ok. UMK3's problems you'll HARDLY see pulled off at high level unlike MKD/MKA's problems that are so easy it's pitiful..Red's game is all around that, there is no "skill" involved in that. How about poking, when to dash, when to sweep, when to parry, when not too, when to turtle, when not to....

Mastering these elements are also required in MK, and most fighters in general. To try to beat people by relying on glitches that are easy as pie in MKA is not better. UMK3 you need to know when to charge, when not too, throwin is Encouraged in that game and unlike the newer MK's it CAN be blocked. There's nothing in that game that will leave me locked in the air the whole round=infinite=round over....=ultimately lame. Again, to red well..I don't care either until you can pull off those infintes with ease this post is irrelevant to me completely. Like I said, you won't be pulling off anything on me in that game nor will anyone else on this forum that likes you or supports you. Later....

Another series of idiotic comments which proves how little you know about competitive fighting games. It takes more skill to do AC's or to win in general in a game like MKA or MKD in comparison to UMK3 in which the dial up combos are much simpler and you don't have the luxury of a 3D environment where you could use the background to your advantage. You don't use AC's yourself because you just don't have the skill to integrate it into your game. Just admit it MKF you can't compete so you run to your fantasy world of claiming fame in UMK3 a game you don't even have available on a system you don't even own and you have been talking about owning for the past year. You are the biggest joke on this website. Everyone of your posts are just laughable jibbirish and they just remind us all of what an idiot you are.

No, umm you don't know jack shit..if you seriously believe that MKD and MKA are LESS broken with less infinites then UMK3 then you're just retarded seriously...

Actually, I'll be discussing thing elsewhere for the hell of it to prove my theory on why you don't know what you're talking about....

Yes, the skill it takes to do AC, 33 is garbage compared to the infinites in UMK3. Do you know how to do Reptile's infinite in that game? Honestly...let's hear it..it was only discovered a few years ago or so, yet only a few players can do it. Hell, even most of the really good UMK3 players have trouble doing the whole midscreen infinite.

In your mind you think that, but it's far from true you can still think you're the best MK player ever..but you're not. B N R is in MKD and eazy is in MKA, most feel this way thus why majority rules not "groy" one person that's blinded by his own ego and arrogance.

I don't even care about MKA anymore, hardly anyone plays it for a REASON and as I've said when I beat you in MKD you bitched I cheesed you...please

You're a rider groy, plain and simple. Whenever red posts jump, you say how high...he says UMk3 is the worst MK, you chuckle and agree without knowing a THING about what he's talking about. You amuse me man, keep it up.

I'll say this again as I did initially, I might be the only person on this forum to believe UMK3 is better then MKD/MKA but believe me, I can find MANY more peeps who agree with me and would make you look really dumb in the process...not to mention the vid is for MKT....you are aware that MKT is NOT UMK3 right and that the games are totally different?

Actually, I'm liked a hell of a lot more on this SITE overall then you can ever dream to be. Once again you think this forum represents the whole "website" ha, ha ohh how little you know...unlike you I'm not here for spam, I'm here cause I like MK games. For you to hate me as much as you do amuses the hell out of me really, because it shows how much of a life you seriously lack.

Ha, ha I have to go post today to fight with this MKF guy ha, ha...

Yeah...you're special Groy.

All fighting games are broken in some shape or form. Just look at Soul Calibur 3 or Bloody Roar 3. Those games were broken BEYOND belief. Much more than MKD and MKA put together. Tekken is probably the only fighting game that's somewhat balanced.

Word dude!

Programming is not an easy task. There is not one program created that's complete on release. The problem with fight games is they are VERY interactive and run in real time. Because of minimum interaction with the environment, players get to notice anomalies more. If these games were allowed to be updated periodically, you'd find that latter visions would subsequently fix bugs discovered. Limited budget also makes matters worse.

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G_Roy and MKF - Why do you guys go around in circle? If G_Roy feels all MKF's posts are idiotic then why bother reply to them and if MKF knows G_Roy is always going to say the same thing, why reply back? Y'all should let the drama go.

Yeah, trax you're right I should...I just hate it when people go out of their way to start shit ya know?

It's really not necessary.

But exactly, NO fighting game is "perfect" there's always something that will be in there to "utilize" easily such as a glitch, broken move, top tier character which I've seen in just about every fighter one or the other...

what a complete nonsense. first this vid was for mkt (n64 not psx) and probably 80% of those infs dont work in umk3 (arcade).

and second, have you ever played mk1? lol there is no duck punch there... what infinite?

learn before to speak

Uh, ever hear of Guilty Gear or Virtua Fighter?

Frankly, even if the infinites in UMK3 are difficult, they're not so difficult as to be impractical. Competitive UMK players are usually capable of pulling off the game's infinites, and they even do it in competitive play.

Those long-ass block animations pissed me the fuck off. That's how gay Kobra was able to get away with b+3 in Kali Sticks in MKD ALL the time. It was unpunishable. Your character's arms will be swinging up and down in slow motion and shit.

hmmm this is an interesting argument and I want to interject. I think the problem is that there are 2 arguments.

1. Which game is better
2. Which game is more broken

Ok...the broken question....first-off we are over-using the word broken. Neither game is broken. They are both playable. MKD felt more broken because learning the glitches was really all that was necessary. Thus someone like red loved the game. In MKA i think they did a decent job of making glitches (although there are more) not so central to winning. UMK has infinites...but so do ALL of the games in question. imo MKD is the most broken. With MKA more broken because of KAKs and easy infinites. You at least have to be good to exploit UMK infinites.

However, that being said the reason that the game is more broken is becasue there is more going on. Ask yourself this. What is in UMK3 that isnt in MKA....the answer is nothing. MKA has way more going and way more depth. Within the additional layers there are some flaws...but it still remains playable. And I will take the flawed depth over the less flawed flatness (graphically and technically) So the better game imo is MKA just because of its depth. there is more going on and more strategy. Plus the characters play VERY different (at least compared to UMK3)

So MKA is more broken and it is also better than UMK3....MKD, well, it was just a stepping stone for MKA.

However, I will add this if this makes any sense. At the time UMK was better than MKA is know. I had more fun playing that game then I do playing MKA. Its like comparing Defender to Battlestar galactica. Clearly one is better if you put them next to each other. But in the overall sceme of things Defender was a better game during its era.

Claps, finally someone that agrees with me and knows what they're talking about...

you cannot compare the two.

umk3- 2-d and 15 yrs old. each guy had only one main dial and one 3 hit kick combo.

every dial was safe, there was no block and counter. it was just run jab, throws , cross overs, etc. the gameplay was way more basic and glitch free.

now u have a 3d world, where camera angles, sidestepping all play a part in the gameplay. not to mention its a block and counter game no which the 2d games werent.

i will end it with this, umk3 cannot be as broken as any other mk game cause it was the most completed. it had something no other mk game had, which was a yr of nation wide testing. umk3 is an upgrade to mk3, which was very very broken. and even mk3 had like 3-4 revision during its arcade run.

umk3 runs on the same cpu board as mk3 with a i believe a 15 rom upgrade, where some were new and some were replaced on the mk3 board.

so of coarse umk3 wouldnt be as broken, how many yrs did it take to make?? and how much testing was done. remember umk3 was just an upgrade, nothing more.

as far as mka

free throws, less than mkd but still have some in mka??? most possible reason, they would have had to repromgram the whole game to elimate all of them, taking away the plant got rid of some, but the the ones off stuns.

air cancel, works offline great, online useless, cause of the horrible lag this game suffers from.

33 call it a glitch if u want, but the only reason it works is cause of lag... lag isnt a glitch, so 33 works cause of the way the games runs online, which goes back to the programing.

glitch throw doesnt work on xbox, unless there severe lag, so again another so called glitch only cause by lag.

so in fact mka isnt a glitchy game programming wise, most of its glitch come from online lag. so online play is the biggest glitch in mka.

Good point there, Red. I think it's wack comparing a 2-d to 3-d games. There are things I like about UMK3 but I won't say it's better than MKA. I see them as 2 completely different games.

Trax

Well I don’t know you well enough to actually “hate” you MKF. My opinion of you is based on being a member of this site and actually seeing how you operate. You are always telling ridiculous lies and you are always coming up with bullshit excuses on why you refuse to play certain people well at least the true elites in this game. Everyone else on the boards are good sports they like to get matches in and they don’t duck challenges. I have yet to play you for the second time, and the only reason you played me the first time was because my alternate tag was not familiar to you and you were cherry picking looking for noobs to beat up on which you normally do.

And your current irrelevant rantings about UMK3 just make no sense to me because you don’t even have the game or the system it is played on so that in itself is just laughable that you would even talk about owning me in that game. Try getting the system first which you have been claiming to do for the past year or so. Well we both know as well as everyone on the boards why when someone who is good challenges you, you always bring that game up. It is because you can’t compete in the current game. So what are you going to do next when you get raped in UMK3, talk about how you would own everyone in MK2 or the original MK. You are running out of games to use as a scapegoat MKF.

Wow....I think hell is freezing over because I agree with Red on this one.

Also MKF this beef with you and Groy continues...its pretty bad that in all this time you havent played him. Why dont you just set a time to face him. Wait this is starting to feel like deja vu