Well Aint It A Shame? You Guys Got What You Want!(PETETION)
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posted03/05/2004 08:36 PM (UTC)by
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YEP! You got prettier costumes, more fatalties and the return of stage fatals. You got cooler modes and such, but what about the core gameplay?

From what i've seen the game plays EXACTLY like MKDA except with the arenas being truly interactive.

Folks..I love Mortal Kombat like theres no tomorrow, and Im hyping this as much as you guys are, but do NOT forget this is what happened with that same game we hyped up oh so long ago in 2002.

MKDA felth slow and it was unblanaced. Most stances were useless, and 80% of the specials sucked ass.

This is a petetion to make MK Deception an even better game than it will already be. This is a petetion to upgrading the core engine.

Parries.

Better juggling system

Reworked throw system

Dashing

Frames

Combos not being guaranteed off first hit.

Come on guys. You can make this happen! PLEASE SIGN. MAKE MK DECEPTION THE BEST FIGHTER OF ALL TIME.
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JoRdANMan
03/04/2004 12:29 AM (UTC)
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I dont know but i loved the Mk:da fighting system. It was kinda slow like u said but i did still like it. I do think they could make a better by speeding it up a little to make the fights seem more brutal and bloody. Thats about it.
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queve
03/04/2004 12:32 AM (UTC)
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Versatile Wrote:
YEP! You got prettier costumes, more fatalties and the return of stage fatals. You got cooler modes and such, but what about the core gameplay?

From what i've seen the game plays EXACTLY like MKDA except with the arenas being truly interactive.

Folks..I love Mortal Kombat like theres no tomorrow, and Im hyping this as much as you guys are, but do NOT forget this is what happened with that same game we hyped up oh so long ago in 2002.

MKDA felth slow and it was unblanaced. Most stances were useless, and 80% of the specials sucked ass.

This is a petetion to make MK Deception an even better game than it will already be. This is a petetion to upgrading the core engine.

Parries.

Better juggling system

Reworked throw system

Dashing

Frames

Combos not being guaranteed off first hit.

Come on guys. You can make this happen! PLEASE SIGN. MAKE MK DECEPTION THE BEST FIGHTER OF ALL TIME.


I was actually very pleased with MKDA, and from the looks of MKD, people are getting what they are asking for and more! But I guess I can say:

Original win poses.
Original and better throw system.
Sonya Blade!
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03/04/2004 12:32 AM (UTC)
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The thing that's making MK:D so great is that because the core gameplay system is already established, they have more time to work on characters, backrounds, fatalities, and what not.

But to be fair, they did speed up the gameplay and make it more agile.
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03/04/2004 12:33 AM (UTC)
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I aint worryed bout the fighting styles or weappons, and i am sure they changed the throws and sweeps for the better. all i am worryed about and i know ui will be disappointed with some characters is there speacial moves. reptile needs his force ball, subby needs his ice clone, and cyrax NEEDS definatly his green web, and if kabal ever made it in this game or mk7 he would be stupid because i know he would not have his topspin move where he does the running then they spin crap thaty move, and his saw would not be a move either probably.
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03/04/2004 12:35 AM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:

Versatile Wrote:
YEP! You got prettier costumes, more fatalties and the return of stage fatals. You got cooler modes and such, but what about the core gameplay?

From what i've seen the game plays EXACTLY like MKDA except with the arenas being truly interactive.

Folks..I love Mortal Kombat like theres no tomorrow, and Im hyping this as much as you guys are, but do NOT forget this is what happened with that same game we hyped up oh so long ago in 2002.

MKDA felth slow and it was unblanaced. Most stances were useless, and 80% of the specials sucked ass.

This is a petetion to make MK Deception an even better game than it will already be. This is a petetion to upgrading the core engine.

Parries.

Better juggling system

Reworked throw system

Dashing

Frames

Combos not being guaranteed off first hit.

Come on guys. You can make this happen! PLEASE SIGN. MAKE MK DECEPTION THE BEST FIGHTER OF ALL TIME.

I was actually very pleased with MKDA, and from the looks of MKD, people are getting what they are asking for and more! But I guess I can say:

Original win poses.
Original and better throw system.
Sonya Blade!


lol @ Queve me and u sure are some loyal Sonya fans
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SaibotRuler
03/04/2004 12:39 AM (UTC)
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Raven-Symone fan huh? :D

Anyway, it's already been confirmed that the fighting system has been changed somewhat, in the sense that it was made faster and it's easier to move the characters around the enviroment. I personally didn't find anything wrong with the DA system.
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queve
03/04/2004 12:41 AM (UTC)
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SonyaBladeFan Wrote:
lol @ Queve me and u sure are some loyal Sonya fans


Of course. : )
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SonOf100Maniacs
03/04/2004 12:42 AM (UTC)
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yeah i want a more improved fighting engine. The 3 styles are a great idea, now lets use them the right way. i want more reversals, more custom combo's (you see how easy it is to do team combos in DOA 3, well that could be used for the 3 styles, switch whenever you want to finish a combo), more realism put in the styles, more throws, more fluid movements, i want pretty much what is in fighting games now if MKD is going to compare. im not saying have the game to complicated like VF4, but at least make it balanced and have a bunch of useful moves that requir more then just pushing Down A, like SC2 and DOA3. Im sorry but MKD would not be "copying" off these games, it is just common sense to have these things in a fighting game now. I SIGN.
oh yeah, i also want more useful special moves. i am tired of projectiles that just hurt them. i want something that starts off combo's (force ball, net, harpoon, freeze) i remeber how cool it was to do Rains Lighting, rain ball, roundhouse, and uppercut combo and i want more stuff like this in the new one
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03/04/2004 12:46 AM (UTC)
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Nice to see you on the (mk6) forum again Vers...been awhile.

Anyways, from what I gather, Ed is working on all of those things...except Frame Data, my source says that he doesn't fully understand it. So I doubt it will be in.

Movement has already been confirmed to be much better, and forward dashing is in.

Sindel o_O
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SonOf100Maniacs
03/04/2004 12:50 AM (UTC)
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Frame Data? please explain. im stupid
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queve
03/04/2004 12:51 AM (UTC)
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Konqrr Wrote:
Nice to see you on the (mk6) forum again Vers...been awhile.

Anyways, from what I gather, Ed is working on all of those things...except Frame Data, my source says that he doesn't fully understand it. So I doubt it will be in.

Movement has already been confirmed to be much better, and forward dashing is in.

Sindel o_O


Sindel looks stunning! And the level movement is one of the best things!!!!!!!
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Dark_No0B
03/04/2004 12:53 AM (UTC)
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Forward dashing? I'm more than happy to hear that. I, as well, really want them to focus on the fighting engine to and how it works. I think that is one of the most important things in MK.

And so far, it looks like there doing a good job of it.
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03/04/2004 01:04 AM (UTC)
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Konqrr Wrote:
Nice to see you on the (mk6) forum again Vers...been awhile.

Anyways, from what I gather, Ed is working on all of those things...except Frame Data, my source says that he doesn't fully understand it. So I doubt it will be in.

Movement has already been confirmed to be much better, and forward dashing is in.

Sindel o_O


Yippee! to all you said. tongue

Dashing is much needed..

And I want an enhanced juggle system too, Versatile.

I want more skill based combos that can lead to impressive juggles, and less reliance on button chains that any fool can memorize and do.

And PLEASE, try to weed out infinites! If anything will kill online play and enjoyment, it'll be that.

If stats are kept track on wins and losses overall online, make it so people whom disconnect forfeit the win to their opponent.
Less cheapness that way when someone is losing and disconnects to avoid a blemish.

*signs petition*

I'm very happy with news so far though.

That Nightwolf, Ermac and Sindel are returning are a Godsend.

Hopefully the mini games are playable online too, that'd be a fun diversion.
Hell, maybe getting good scores in the games could unlock secrets? smile
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03/04/2004 01:16 AM (UTC)
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Jonin01 Wrote:
Hopefully the mini games are playable online too, that'd be a fun diversion.
Hell, maybe getting good scores in the games could unlock secrets?


The mini-games are playable online. Sweetness, you hear me!? Sweetness!!
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SuperNick
03/04/2004 01:20 AM (UTC)
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Who cares about all that? We need a petition to bring it to GameCube so I don't have to buy an Xbox this fall.
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03/04/2004 01:21 AM (UTC)
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As a matter of fact, MK:DA is my favorite game of all time grin
There should definitely be some sort of parrying system, along with a THROW escape move!

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03/04/2004 01:34 AM (UTC)
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jdogg5543 Wrote:
I aint worryed bout the fighting styles or weappons, and i am sure they changed the throws and sweeps for the better. all i am worryed about and i know ui will be disappointed with some characters is there speacial moves. reptile needs his force ball, subby needs his ice clone, and cyrax NEEDS definatly his green web, and if kabal ever made it in this game or mk7 he would be stupid because i know he would not have his topspin move where he does the running then they spin crap thaty move, and his saw would not be a move either probably.


Who cares about specials if they suck ass?

Freeze? SUCKED!

Ice Shaker? SUCKED!

Spear? SUCKED!

Acid Ball? SUCKED!

Come on people. Lets get out of the scrub mindframe. Its not just about cool characters, an excellent story and eye candy. DO YOU REALLY WANT ANOTHER DA?
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REPTILEWINS
03/04/2004 01:59 AM (UTC)
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seriously man all we got was about 20 seconds of the figthing on video and the rest were all pics. u cant possibly make out the fighting system through that alone. play the beta version at E3 and then come here to make the petition.
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03/04/2004 02:02 AM (UTC)
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Versatile and I don't get our information from any released media...we both have an inside source. What Vers is saying is true...and I really hope they find the time to fix alot of the problems that ran rampant in MKDA.
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03/04/2004 02:06 AM (UTC)
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03/04/2004 02:21 AM (UTC)
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Versatile Wrote:

jdogg5543 Wrote:
I aint worryed bout the fighting styles or weappons, and i am sure they changed the throws and sweeps for the better. all i am worryed about and i know ui will be disappointed with some characters is there speacial moves. reptile needs his force ball, subby needs his ice clone, and cyrax NEEDS definatly his green web, and if kabal ever made it in this game or mk7 he would be stupid because i know he would not have his topspin move where he does the running then they spin crap thaty move, and his saw would not be a move either probably.

Who cares about specials if they suck ass?

Freeze? SUCKED!

Ice Shaker? SUCKED!

Spear? SUCKED!

Acid Ball? SUCKED!

Come on people. Lets get out of the scrub mindframe. Its not just about cool characters, an excellent story and eye candy. DO YOU REALLY WANT ANOTHER DA?


of course stupid...

anyway... mk:da was awasome.. and just as the psm mag said.. it will be more speedy.. plus more reversales? dam.. your going to make people almost the same.. the thing with the styles is that you have to really work.. to get to know a guy and how to well execute them.. its not about combos.. well sometimes.. depending who you go against.. the little quick attacks come in for good countering..

allwell.. you do have a point about hype though.. to much could be bad.. but dam.. for this game its good.. lol...

also since they made mk:da as the established fighting sys.. then why not make more stuff for it.. you sound like you want a bran new worked from the bottom game.. time is money.. and if you don't relize that people do 1 game.. then do the 2nd better.. then plz don't go into big business..
but i do agree with the dashing.. yes they should add that.. Edit: this post is just not about ver.. but kinda all the people.. sorry for not making that clear..
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03/04/2004 02:27 AM (UTC)
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Ill sign.

I think chain combos should be excluded. There too easy and take no skill. I used to make custom combos on da, but there EXTREMELY hard to time right, and they dont make much of a difference in terms of damage.

Also we need better specials. Get a little creative midway!

And im sure i dont have to say this but...better fatalities. Fatalities were horrible in da. There were only 1 or 2 good ones, and none of them were very creative.

And better designed characters. They werent bad in da, but nothing to brag about. Hsu Hao's design sucked ass, Lie Mei was nothing new. Looks like they tried w/ sub in mkd, but he looks like shredder. Well, im not passing judgment on him yet, but well see...

Also, what are these frames you guys are talking about?
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03/04/2004 02:32 AM (UTC)
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he means more frames per char.. i guess they wanted them to make them less choppy.. or make where they hit the char more realistic.. by not just low hit and high hit... allwell.. just a thought on what they might think..
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