Scorpion was introduced in MK I. Smoke was introcuded in MK II. Think about that. ;)

I know that, but in the lin kuei, it says that they are a bunch of ninjas that have supernatural abilites. I still think that scorpion copied Smokes moveset.

Hideo_Sakaguchi Wrote: Scorpion was introduced in MK I. Smoke was introcuded in MK II. Think about that. ;)

you can think whatever you want but he's just a palette swap. It has nothing to do with fictional character A stealing the moves of fictional character B. It has to do with the programmers being lazy. If they had been afforded the opportunity, surely smoke would have been given original moves.

blackwizard Wrote: I know that, but in the lin kuei, it says that they are a bunch of ninjas that have supernatural abilites. I still think that scorpion copied Smokes moveset.

Yeah, but Mortal Kombat was never about being believable. The fact of the matter was that Scorpion was created first with his own unique moves list. Smoke came out a year later (in MK II) with the exact same moves and carried these moves over into MK III (spear, teleport punch, and air throw). Smoke was a half-assed character from the start. Sure he was fun to play with, but that's because he was basically Scorpion in an alternate outfit. He has no defining moves of his own, outside Fatalities.

Basicly Human Smoke was given the exact same moves as Scorpion in UMK3 with different combos. The fact that he uses the spear also bothered some people.

I personally hope to see Smoke back, but hope the spear is the only thing he has in common with Scorpion in MKD.

Jus like Jade in MK2. She wuz exactly like Kitana. Its all about laziness pll.

And, just like noob saibot in mk2. But see how jade and noob are totally different now? Not to mention smoke being somewhat cyborg. If smoke returns, he'll have totally different movesets.

either way i hope to see saibot with that smoke ball pojectile that kicked ass. As for smoke, give him fighting style moves, like kicks and such, but as for his projectiles or stuff, he should turn invisable not reptile,and he shouldnt have the spear at ll in the game, thats scorps move, its in 3D now and itaint no arcade game its and console game, they wont get away with and wont make no more lazy characters or palet swaps. i think they should have put smoke in not noob, just give him noobs smoke projectile since it has to do woth smoke, and noobs moves and such. noob is just a shadow and that was a lazy move to put him in MK:D. cant wait for konquest mode, alot of final secrets will stay in there for a while.

Why is smoke considered a palette swap of scorpion?

because he is

because he WAS. I'm sure he isnt a pallet swap anymore, especially if hes in deception. He'll have his own moves then.

Why would anyone ask this question?

jdogg5543 Wrote: either way i hope to see saibot with that smoke ball pojectile that kicked ass.

me too

For the record Smoke and Jade were not exact clones of Scorpion and Kitana in MK II.

Smoke's only special move was the spear. He couldn't do the teleport punch, the air throw or the leg take down. He could run really fast though. Also his win pose was Sub-Zero's and his walking stance was Reptile's.

Jade only had the fan throw. None of Kitana's other moves but projectiles passed through her.

If you ever were him in MK3, he is an EXACT copy of Scoprion.

If you ever were him in MK3, he is an EXACT copy of Scorpion.

As already said, Smoke is a palette swap of Scorpion because...he just is. Scorpion was created first, and Smoke was copied from his design and given his moves. Sub-Zero and Scorpion are palette swaps of each other. They are the same character design, different color. Ermac and Noob and Rain and Scorpion and Reptile and Sub-Zero are all palette swaps of each other...because they're the same character design, different color. THAT is why smoke is a swap. It has nothign to do with mythology or story.

Now in MKD, everyone is unique, and if smoke returns, I'm sure he will be unique too.

Its also possible that since they changed Smoke into a cyborg they had no need to do anything more with his human form. So when he was featured in Trilogy, he was the same exact version from MK2. Ther really was no reason to change the human smokes move sets.

If you ever were him in MK3, he is an EXACT copy of Scoprion.


In MK3 he is a robot...

In UMK3/MKT even the human Smoke isn't an exact copy. They have different finishing moves and dial-a-combos.



"Palatte swap" means he has the same sprite as Scorpion but is a different color. He is a palatte swap. All the ninjas are. But moveset wise he isn't an EXACT clone, just very close.

I meant UMK3, and the only thing different is the fatalities and the look... Same moves, same combos, same everything.