What I don't understand about the whole "born homosexual" thing (which invariably rests upon the argument that it's fundamentally to do with somebody's biological composure), is well, how does that explain people being straight for thrity years then turning gay, or people being gay for years then turning straight? They just change their biological make-up overnight? Spontaneous biological metamorphosis?

Homosexuality is the result of an interaction between genetic inclinations and surrounding environment, and like other conditions that are caused by the same interaction, it is swayed by both personal choice and upbringing. That doesn't make it right, natural, or healthy, but that's the way it is.

That's exactly the way I see it. I have gay friends, and they've said reasons why they are gay. I myself am straight, and I want to continue to be straight.

It kind of sucked when a gay guy hit on me. Eww.

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Ok, i see what everyones saying, however i just thought of something, what about experimentation, that has to play a role does it not??Say, on a dare or a requirement for some sort of initiation.Or if you're just curious.

Say a perfectly straight guy, or a gay guy decides to experiment with another guy, or the gay guy trying with a girl, and they like it, the actual experience, yet they don't want to be with that person, the straight guy liked the experiment but would rather marry a girl because he knows it's what he's supposed to do as a straight guy.


Now same thing for the Gay guy, say he fools around with a women and enjoys it, yet afterwards says to himself i liked the experiment, but i want to be with a guy.

Does anyone understand what i'm saying??

Same thing for women as well BTW.But you can see my example, i have heard that if this case happens, it's perfectly normal and most people are curious at one point or another and things happen sometimes but mostly in college and often means nothing.But can it??

Also, what if you are straight or gay and you get aroused by watching the opposite porno, but yet you know you don't want to be with the opposite of what you are, you just get aroused and turned on by sex in general despite what kind of film it is??What does this mean?Is this normal or is this a sign of something, just some things i figure i throw into the mix just to see what you guys think?

Why half of the people who replied to this thread are gay, I do not know...But none the less, that shit's disgusting.

Consult avatar for my opinion on homosexuality.

Does the thread's author not request maturity in this thread? I had thought the skull points would be warning enough, but I suppose not. Please stop this bashing. Many thanks.

I definately think that it is a choice.

I don't believe that being a homosexual (or bisexual) is primarily a choice that's consciously made. I believe that it's a result of two things;

1. All embryoes start developing as females, and later on in the development, when the X/Y chromosomes form, these determine whether we develop as males or females (which is why both sexes have nipples); who's to say that some of the female traits don't remain in some of the males, or some masculine traits don't develop in some of the females?

2. How we live in our society. Some say that this would lead to making a conscious decision, but think about this; most psychologists believe that when we search for potential mates, we look for traits that are familiar in future partners. If a father tends to be protective of his daughter, then chances are that she will seek out a man that she feels safe with. Even boys who are encouraged to be tough when it comes to being with dear-old dad, seek out their mother, who they could be true and honest with; that's why some guys (who want a REAL relationship not based solely on sex) tend to seek out females who'll listen to them and be with them in their sadder moments.

Now, imagine if you're a male, and you don't have a caring female role-model in your life, or a female and you don't have a strong male role-model in your life; who's to say that you won't fall for what you're familiar with in that scenario? This wouldn't be a conscious decision, but an automatic response; going with what one feels is safe and familiar.

Of course, there are some people who're willing to try and experience new sensations and experiment, so I guess in that event, if they switch, it would be more of a conscious decision.

I personally don't think is a choice. I mean, I don't understand why somebody would "turn" gay just because they want to. I mean, why would somebody want to turn gay if he/she knows that people are going to put them down, just because of what they choice that life style. That's why I don't think is a choice.
Anyway, I personally don't think is a choice. However is just hard to explain, but I don't think is a choice. I think that if you are gay, you can understand more, of why it isn't a choice. Oh well..

Well, I would say both of those examples relate to the theory I discussed earlier: few people are entirely gay or straight, but most people DO gravitate toward one end of the spectrum or the other. If a guy experiments with another guy and enjoys it, but knows he'd rather marry a woman, that's because he gravitates more toward the heterosexual end of the spectrum, even if he has realized his ability to find sexual enjoyment with another man. And if a straight guy watches gay porn and enjoys it, it's because he can be aroused by it, as he isn't 100% straight, as most people aren't.

Well my personal beleif is that it can be alittle of both, i think some people are genuinly gay and were born that way, then others may have lied to themselves there entire life and not relize there sexuality until a later age or until they were able to cope with it, then in other instances i believe some people choose to be gay, why?, who knows, although i will say that i feel that alot of people who choose to or not to be gay, do so becuase of society, some people may decide to become gay because latley it seems to be the popular thing to do, or may not to choose to become gay because though it is more accepted then in the past, it is still looked down upon. Me personally being straight, ive got no problem with gay people in general, the only people that bother me are the people that act extremely feminine just to draw attention to themselves, almost to say hey look at me im gay pay attention to me. I have alot of budds who are gay and they act completly normal, there dudes who like other dudes, but are also very respectful and dont push there sexuality onto anyone that dosent want it pushed upon them.

Ok Trishes, I think you misunderstood me or maybe i wasn't clear, it's obvious that you don't wake up on any given thay and say "Today I feel like homosexual", but as you said you actually accept yourself, what I meant about choices, is that given the cards at play (man or woman) you chose what you like based on your preferences, therefore, i still think you cannot be born Homosexual or Bisexual.

yep i just woke up one day and was like " yep i now choose to have some guy shove his big fat cock up my ass".

yep i chose it yep..


ugg i fucking hate when people who havent LIVED A day in my shoes, have no clue what it is to be gay. sit there and say " its a choice" pfft u have no clue and this is ur way of explaining it..
so u sit there and act like u know whats up. YOU DONT!!

Dan If you posted that becuz of me, I know the reason, thats becus......

Sorry for that misunderstandment.

it wasnt just for u.

oh and U WERENT BORN STRAIGHT, u choose it.. *rolls eyes*

If you roll your eyes again i will be forced to throw some nekkid ladies into your room and make you Do EM!

Oh noes! ( rolls eyes )

Exactly. There is no choice. It cannot be put down to choice at all.

Yeah. Your hormones will make you do what they want, whether it's being straight or gay. It's just the way you are.

Thats pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Im straight, but not once have I ever questioned my sexuality. I know I was born straight and Im sure it is the same with gay, lesbian or bisexual people, but for them its actually coming to terms with it because of how today's society percieves homosexuality. Also people have said something about straight people "turning" gay and vice versa. Well for one I have never ever heard of someone gay turning straight, the only thing close to that is bisexuality. Also I've read about evidence that homosexuality existing on the animal kingdom outside of humans. SO to answer the question I clearly believe people are born with their own orientation

It's a choice of preference. It's just like anything else. I wasn't born predestined to be straight, but I chose to be straight. I wasn't born predestined to like chocolate over vanilla, I chose to like it more. Sure they vary in a great degree of difference, but it's still the same concept. Same thing with addictions. Addictions are chosen, not biological.

besides who the fuck gave me the choice?? did some greater being come to ME/YOU and actually give u/me the choice to be attracted to a man or women? no we just ARE!!


if im doing those females u better be paying me tons AND tons of cash freaker..!!

I think its a little of both to be honest, because you dont just wake up one day and say "You know what? women are overrated, IM GAY!!!" but also when you are three you arent thinking about Tim next door from you. I think that you born with a preference to men or women (not 100%) and you choose which one you feel more comfortable with, be it guy or gal. I just prefer girls and my brain attracts me to girls........... well one in particular

the choice is actually the momentum when you confront the preprogram-med chemical reactions running through actively in your body. The prefe-rence over sexual orientation is selectable: either submitting to your preprogrammed genetical behavior or be defiant and attempt a concious controll over your instinctive oientation.

it IS selectable in a sense, since people can change completely their sexual orientation (my examples aren't completely fair though, a lot of homosexual people changed to heterosexuals when turned to christian faith). And there is a bit of bisexuality in every humane beings psyche.