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02/04/2007 03:52 PM (UTC)
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When you read page 195 you understand why the Drive By was closed in the past.

And btw, going by my favorites:

Espeon > Vaporeon > Jolteon > Umbreon > Flareon
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02/04/2007 06:08 PM (UTC)
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Flareon>Espeon>Jolteon>Umbreon>Vaporeon

Although I barely ever play the game anymore.
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02/04/2007 06:35 PM (UTC)
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RyanRaiden Wrote:
I love Korn!! Here To Stay is one of the best songs I have ever heard!!

This time, taking it away
I've got a problem, with me getting in the way,
Not by design
So I take my face and bash it into a mirror.
I won't have to see the pain (bleed, bleed)

This state is elevating, as the hurt turns into hating.
Anticipating, all the fucked up feelings again.

The hurt inside is fading
This shit's gone way too far.
All this time I've been waiting
No I can not grieve anymore.
For once inside awaking.
I'm done, I'm not a whore.
You've taken everything and, oh, I cannot give anymore.


-Ryan C.


I love that song, but Somebody Someone will always be my fave.


Korn rulz.
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02/04/2007 06:54 PM (UTC)
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Yea, it's been a long long time since I've seriously played Pokemon. I sort of stopped after G/S/C because the newer games just didn't hold my interest.

However, going by your (tgrant) type weakness argument, Electrics are also stopped by Grassers and Dragons, who have Electric resistance. Normal attacks are cut in half by Rock and Steel Pokemon, not that those are used much in battle anyway. Psychics can effectively hit anything except for Dark (nothing) and Steel (1/2). Also, Psychics can take down most Bugs easily as many of them have Poison as a second type. I mean, we could really break this down if you wanted, but at the end of the day with proper stat building, leveling, and TMs you can make nearly any Pokemon a powerhouse.
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02/04/2007 07:06 PM (UTC)
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m0s3pH Wrote:
Yea, it's been a long long time since I've seriously played Pokemon. I sort of stopped after G/S/C because the newer games just didn't hold my interest.
However, going by your (tgrant) type weakness argument, Electrics are also stopped by Grassers and Dragons, who have Electric resistance. Normal attacks are cut in half by Rock and Steel Pokemon, not that those are used much in battle anyway. Psychics can effectively hit anything except for Dark (nothing) and Steel (1/2). Also, Psychics can take down most Bugs easily as many of them have Poison as a second type. I mean, we could really break this down if you wanted, but at the end of the day with proper stat building, leveling, and TMs you can make nearly any Pokemon a powerhouse.

All of what you said is basic knowledge. All Pokemon can be countered. Some are just harder to take down than others and luck comes into play with some things.
Psychics may be able to hit most things for neutral damage, but the majority aren't used because they cannot survive due to weak stats and slow speeds.
Given Hidden Power and other moves, Electrics and other Pokemon aren't necessarily stopped by opposing types. Remember, if you have a versatile Pokemon, you can easily screw other those that would normally counter you.
If you don't have a proper counter to some Pokemon, they can own you.
In the new games you need to take in account EV distribution as well as natures and the intended moveset as well as what you wish to kill.
Another major factor is prediction. If you're no good at this, then you will lose. Knowing resistances and the rest is useless if you cannot predict.
Case in point, lets assume you have a Jolteon with Hidden Power (HP) Grass to take down Swampert and you know your opponent has one and it's at full health. Your HP Grass won't KO it in one hit if they use it to counter you, but it will OHKO you with Earthquake.
You send out Jolteon to counter the opponents Pokemon and you can either try and kill the opponent Pokemon, or predict the switch to Swampert and use HP Grass. If they switch to Swampert, it takes big damage and as Jolteon is faster, another HP Grass will kill it. Using Substitute here would give you time to kill Swampert too.
Or, the opponent out predicts you and keeps the Pokemon in and your HP Grass may be useless versus it or might still be effective, but your Thunderbolt would have been better and you get hit back. Or, they may switch to something else that is immune to HP Grass in order to absorb the hit and perhaps even scout the HP type you have.
From the above you can see the whole prediction and risk and reward system.
It's because of stuff like that why the games are fun and why I wish people would try playing them before putting them down.
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02/04/2007 07:11 PM (UTC)
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^^ Impressive.

Just shows me how far out of the loop I am.
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02/04/2007 07:12 PM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
m0s3pH Wrote:
Yea, it's been a long long time since I've seriously played Pokemon. I sort of stopped after G/S/C because the newer games just didn't hold my interest.
However, going by your (tgrant) type weakness argument, Electrics are also stopped by Grassers and Dragons, who have Electric resistance. Normal attacks are cut in half by Rock and Steel Pokemon, not that those are used much in battle anyway. Psychics can effectively hit anything except for Dark (nothing) and Steel (1/2). Also, Psychics can take down most Bugs easily as many of them have Poison as a second type. I mean, we could really break this down if you wanted, but at the end of the day with proper stat building, leveling, and TMs you can make nearly any Pokemon a powerhouse.

All of what you said is basic knowledge. All Pokemon can be countered. Some are just harder to take down than others and luck comes into play with some things.
Psychics may be able to hit most things for neutral damage, but the majority aren't used because they cannot survive due to weak stats and slow speeds.
Given Hidden Power and other moves, Electrics and other Pokemon aren't necessarily stopped by opposing types. Remember, if you have a versatile Pokemon, you can easily screw other those that would normally counter you.
If you don't have a proper counter to some Pokemon, they can own you.
In the new games you need to take in account EV distribution as well as natures and the intended moveset as well as what you wish to kill.
Another major factor is prediction. If you're no good at this, then you will lose. Knowing resistances and the rest is useless if you cannot predict.
Case in point, lets assume you have a Jolteon with Hidden Power (HP) Grass to take down Swampert and you know your opponent has one and it's at full health. Your HP Grass won't KO it in one hit if they use it to counter you, but it will OHKO you with Earthquake.
You send out Jolteon to counter the opponents Pokemon and you can either try and kill the opponent Pokemon, or predict the switch to Swampert and use HP Grass. If they switch to Swampert, it takes big damage and as Jolteon is faster, another HP Grass will kill it. Using Substitute here would give you time to kill Swampert too.
Or, the opponent out predicts you and keeps the Pokemon in and your HP Grass may be useless versus it or might still be effective, but your Thunderbolt would have been better and you get hit back. Or, they may switch to something else that is immune to HP Grass in order to absorb the hit and perhaps even scout the HP type you have.
From the above you can see the whole prediction and risk and reward system.
It's because of stuff like that why the games are fun and why I wish people would try playing them before putting them down.


I can't believe I read that....-__-
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02/04/2007 07:19 PM (UTC)
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I Hate You

Take the Hint...
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02/04/2007 07:30 PM (UTC)
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Cosmos Wrote:
I Hate You

Take the Hint...


k
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02/04/2007 07:55 PM (UTC)
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m0s3pH Wrote:
Cosmos Wrote:
I Hate You

Take the Hint...


k

wow
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02/04/2007 08:14 PM (UTC)
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I really feel like I should be in the loop of Pokemon, but its so confusing. I have Yellow and Silver, and thought that was good enough. But apparently I am teh pokemon n00b.
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02/04/2007 08:19 PM (UTC)
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I really feel like I should be in the loop of Pokemon, but its so confusing. I have Yellow and Silver, and thought that was good enough. But apparently I am teh pokemon n00b.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahf
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02/04/2007 08:23 PM (UTC)
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Cosmos Wrote:
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
I really feel like I should be in the loop of Pokemon, but its so confusing. I have Yellow and Silver, and thought that was good enough. But apparently I am teh pokemon n00b.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahf


What are you laughing at, Pokemon?
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02/04/2007 08:31 PM (UTC)
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Is my sig showing cause i cant see it for some reason now and i never changed it.......
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02/04/2007 08:34 PM (UTC)
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Is my sig showing cause i cant see it for some reason now and i never changed it.......


no
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02/04/2007 09:01 PM (UTC)
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Ninja_Mime Wrote:
Cosmos Wrote:
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
I really feel like I should be in the loop of Pokemon, but its so confusing. I have Yellow and Silver, and thought that was good enough. But apparently I am teh pokemon n00b.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahf


What are you laughing at, Pokemon?


Im lafin at j00 n00b
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02/04/2007 09:04 PM (UTC)
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m0s3pH Wrote:
^^ Impressive.
Just shows me how far out of the loop I am.

Don't worry about it, dude. There's alot of in depth stuff most people don't know about the games.
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
I really feel like I should be in the loop of Pokemon, but its so confusing. I have Yellow and Silver, and thought that was good enough. But apparently I am teh pokemon n00b.

It'd be difficult breaking into the more advanced stuff if you haven't kept up with the games. There's so much to learn.
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02/04/2007 09:14 PM (UTC)
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Wow pokemon has become quite a thing now,i shouldn't have stopped playing it
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02/04/2007 09:15 PM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:
m0s3pH Wrote:
^^ Impressive.
Just shows me how far out of the loop I am.

Don't worry about it, dude. There's alot of in depth stuff most people don't know about the games.
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
I really feel like I should be in the loop of Pokemon, but its so confusing. I have Yellow and Silver, and thought that was good enough. But apparently I am teh pokemon n00b.

It'd be difficult breaking into the more advanced stuff if you haven't kept up with the games. There's so much to learn.


Yea, though I was definitely one of the more intuitive minds when it came to Pokemon back in the day. Then again, R/B/Y and G/S/C weren't all that difficult to master, but then R/S/E got way more in-depth with all the items and such.
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02/04/2007 09:33 PM (UTC)
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Pokemon


Those guys are awesomegrin
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02/04/2007 09:35 PM (UTC)
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YingYeung Wrote:

Espeon > Vaporeon > Jolteon > Umbreon > Flareon


EERROOOONEEEOUUUSSSS!!!!!!!

everyone knos its
Vaporeon>Jolteon>Flareon>Umbreon>Espeon>The new Ice and Grass ones....

plz... bitch plz...
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02/04/2007 09:36 PM (UTC)
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m0s3pH Wrote:
tgrant Wrote:
m0s3pH Wrote:
^^ Impressive.
Just shows me how far out of the loop I am.

Don't worry about it, dude. There's alot of in depth stuff most people don't know about the games.
Ninja_Mime Wrote:
I really feel like I should be in the loop of Pokemon, but its so confusing. I have Yellow and Silver, and thought that was good enough. But apparently I am teh pokemon n00b.

It'd be difficult breaking into the more advanced stuff if you haven't kept up with the games. There's so much to learn.

Yea, though I was definitely one of the more intuitive minds when it came to Pokemon back in the day. Then again, R/B/Y and G/S/C weren't all that difficult to master, but then R/S/E got way more in-depth with all the items and such.

The item range was extended. Auto abilities were added. EV's were introduced. There were also move and type upgrades.
The new games, Diamond and Pearl, are set to change everything even further with the removal of basic special and physical attacking. It complicates things even more.
Kamionero, check out the last page for some information regarding the Eeveelutions.
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02/04/2007 09:40 PM (UTC)
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its all about Lefia http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/470.shtml

and Glacia http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/471.shtml

WARNING DONT GO TO THESE LINKS IF YOU DONT WANNA SEE THE NEW POKEMON!!
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02/04/2007 09:42 PM (UTC)
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Wow I didn't realize there are a lot of people who like pokemon just as much as I do.
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02/04/2007 09:42 PM (UTC)
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scorpion_s2 Wrote:
its all about Lefia http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/470.shtml
and Glacia http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/471.shtml
WARNING DONT GO TO THESE LINKS IF YOU DONT WANNA SEE THE NEW POKEMON!!

They look cool, but both aren't looking promising as I said on the last page. Glacia is especially horrid lol. I'll still use it though as I like the look of it.
MegaBabe Wrote:
Wow I didn't realize there are a lot of people who like pokemon just as much as I do.

I hope you read my posts on the last page lol.
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