Just shows how paranoid and fear consumed American Society is.

that is what scares me and why i am against arming teachers in schools i mean hey if someone over reacted to a will smith song of all people whos to say someone couldnt do worse?

personally i hate guns and i have my personal reasons for it but realisticlt gun ban or not they will always be around

As an American, how in the hell can you misinterpret one of the most famous theme songs in the history of American television?

I am willing to bet money that receptionist has heard the song before, so even in a cover, she should have known what it was.

In all, even if she really isn't an idiot, she should have addressed the student rather than release a state of emergency. It's shit like this that is making it impossible to survive in this country. Thank goodness the woman didn't have a gun.

Dear American

Your crazy fucker

From Rest of the World

That woman sounds like a fucking idiot. It's a fucking hip-hop song from the 90's for fuck sakes. How the fuck could you misinterpret that for a threat

funny thing is will smith is like the cleanest rapper to ever touch a microphone

i listen to alot of hiphop and im sorry but the fresh prince would never say such a thing

Why my country is trying to imitate yours i'll never know.

I have met some really awesome nice people from the USA but as a Nation... *sharp inhale*

It's not just me. It seems like everyone in the USA despises the USA, hidden under a banner of flag-worshipping conformist national pride claptrap.

(i know that might be a bit controversial, but tell me i'm wrong.)

19 year old in high school

How

I wouldn't say everyone, of course.

But most of Americans, probably. In many cases I feel ashamed to be an American, which is why I usually leave it to simply being a Chicagoan.

I've had many an argument with other Americans as to why I feel the way I do, so I won't go into detail about it, because I'm not in the mood for another argument. I will say, however, that I don't get as upset as I used to every time I hear someone from another country talk shit about the U.S., not saying you are.

I just leave things at Chicagoan too its less complicated.

the big issue with the usa ( my country) is if you look at the sandy hook shooting people jump up to there feets and say oh we need to stop violence with more violence. i mean come on what does that solve? if anything that makes things look even worse.


seriously this is why i dislike ( i dont use the word hate because to strong to say) when these gun toting idiots just go and scream oh lets arm schools and ect.

there is also this belief that there is a assult on gun rights wich isnt true at all. i would love for 1 gun owner to explain to me on why they feel the need to own a ak47 ar15 ect.

those are the guns that need a ban and nobody has said anything about non automatics but these right winged and left winged gun owners take that and twist it to where they really believe what they are saying.

look i can care less for either political party and i aint no parent but i just read maybe 3 weeks ago that a 5 year old brought a automatic handgun to school to kill his now ex gf

5 years old...... whats wrong with that picture?

can any rational gun owner with 100% accuracy say every single gun owner dosent leave there weapon unsupervised?


its easy for a parent to say oh it was a violent game instead of saying oh yea i the parent fucked up

lets face it as much as i love m rated games i would be the first guy to say dont let anyone under 14 or 15 near such a product and if the parent allows it thats on them

*Airport scene*
Man: Aw, who put my pop in the freezer?

Woman: Where are you going, dear?

Man: To the bathroom. I need a sink to cut up my Coke...

Security: Move in, move in!



Woman: Honey, did you remember to put the Tiger Balm on your arm?

Security: We got a possible situation involving an armed bomb...



Ka-Tra

did I just read that a 5 year old shot his ex girlfriend

People often had guns in their vehicles when I was in high school. The would go out to try and bag a deer at around five, hunt for 3 hours, and come to class.

he plotted to do so. luckly security checked the bag pack

Most people enter grade 9 at age 14. That means by the end of grade 12, you are 18.

It is very common for people to take an extra year, if undecided. Or for those people who has issues with work or personal issues that may have taken priority over school.

I did an extra year. No big deal.

I believe that's where I step in.

Since about the age of 4 or 5 I've been shooting and handling firearms. Sometimes as a hobby and sometimes as a necessity. I personally own a Colt Single Action Army, a Roughrider 22. Revolver, and Mosin Nagant. I've shot a plethora of guns in my life- from single shot cap and ball to my step-brother's AR-15.

Yes, indeed, my step-brother owns an AR-15; built it himself too. Why? Well, it's light, fires a readily available ammo, is quite easy to repair, and has an extremely light recoil. He uses it for hunting and protection. But, since it is a civilian model of a gun originally manufactured for military use it's the "Big Bad Assault Rifle"

Well, in actuality An assault rifle is defined as "A rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use." By that definition, my Mosin-Nagant - manufactured by the Red Army in 1945 - is an assault rifle. Furthermore, one could argue that an AR15 is actually NOT an assault rifle because the AR15 itself was not manufactured for military use (it's companion the M16 was). Also, my Mosin-Nagant came with something my step-brother's AR-15 didn't- a bayonet! That's right, it came with a cruciform bayonet. I bought it quite easilly, yet no one is outraged. I'm not a bragger, but I'm pretty damn fast at ejecting shells. I could easilly kill 7 or 8 children, yet people don't expect me to do it with my Mosin. Why? It's not semi-auto

Something about having a rifle that is semi-auto just drives anti-gun folks crazy. I could wander down to a school with my near 70 year old soviet surplus rifle and my revolver which has a design that dates back to 1872 and kill as many children as that scumbag in Connecticut. Hell, I could do even worse things with a Cruciform bayonet. However, and here is the big however, the media would never once call my guns an assault rifle or an assault weapon. Why? Because people have forgotten what that means. The lines have become blurred between auto, semi-auto, and the term "Assualt Rifle".

And let me tell you, I love my Mosin. I use it for target practice mainly (not much of a hunter) but some people do use them for hunting, despite how loud they are. But, I can tell you It won't protect you from a bear, a wolf, or a cougar. Bolt action rifles are just too damn slow for immediate danger. And, can ruin a hunting trip as a poor shot with bolt action rarely gets a second chance and the poor animal limps away with a bullet wound to get infected and to suffer a horrible, painful death.

Now, the AR15 has been getting some pretty bad press lately. well I wanna show you guys a little something



Going from left to right in that picture we see L-R 5.45, 5.56, 7.62x39, 7.62 Nato, 7.62x54R.

The second shell is what the AR-15 is (normally) chambered for, not a very large shell. The final shell is what is chambered for the Mosin-Nagant, a shell still made specifically for sportsmen and target practice. While the Mosin-Nagant's 7.62x54R is classified in hunting for medium- to large-sized animals. The AR 15's 5.56 is classified for varmint- to small-medium game. So a deer, realistically, is the largest animal you will kill with the AR15. Now from what you can see, it's proof that AR-15, despite what the likes of Piers Morgan say, won't pulverize anything. It's not an organ grinder, it's a pea shooter. Farmers use them to kill ground-squirrels, coyotes, rabbits, foxes, and wolves if they were desperate, while hunters use them for Deer, other small game, and protection.

Now, onto the Kalashnikov. The AK47, in the United States, is a collectors item. It's a Cold War relic that many keep due to it's integral part in firearms history; it was the birth of the modern weapon (some would say Sturmgewher was, but I'm not gonna get into that right now). Now, outside of the United States the AK47 is widely used by pirate, terrorists, and drug lords. Why is this?

Well, It's not because of it's power or how well it kills someone, it's because they are indestructible. You can never oil it, subject it to mud, snow, sand, blood, and the thing will still fire; it's a triumph of human engineering.

And that's why many collectors in the U.S. want them. They're works of art to folks like me and to get the ability to fire one is something you never forget. However, the gun does have a few practical uses. Where I'm from, just like with the AR15, farmers will purchase AKs and use them for Varmint killing and livestock protection, because just like the AR15's 5.56 round, the 7.62×39mm shell that the AK uses is recommended for small to medium game.



Here we have another lineup, as you can see the 7.62×39 (it has the darker colored shell casing) isn't the biggest kid on the block. In fact, it's not even the most common kid on the block.



Above, we can see the size comparison between common 30 caliber rounds. Now I'd like to point out the 30.06. The 30.06 is what the U.S. carried into the Second World War; it's what most M1 Garands are chambered in. It is still readily available in the United States and so is everything else on this chart, well, except 7.62×39. The costs of importing fresh 7.62×39 rounds from Russia makes them rather difficult to come by and expensive; you're not going to buy these like 22. rounds. And no reputable gun dealer would dare try to sell 30 year old Iron-Curtain surplus ammo.

However, since the fall of the Soviet Union, unsavory types like pirates, terrorists, and drug lords- folks who are unbound by US law- purchase fully automatic AKs and several thousand palettes of Slovenian Surplus ammo. They then use these guns to commit whatever crimes they intend on committing,

If an AK47 is fully auto, on streets of the United States of America, and is used in a crime. It's a safe bet that the gun came from Mexico or Columbia. An average American criminal would have to have a taste for the theatrical to commit to the process of legally buying an AK47, reverting it to fully auto, and buying the Ammo. It would be pointless to do; they'd be better off committing their crime with a 30.30 lever action.

Finally, I think people judge these guns entirely on how they look. They look newfangled- like something only the army would use. So therefore, criminals having them is worse than criminals having any other guns.



Well, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the .17HMR Rifle!



And it's shell, the .17HMR (left). Now, as you can see the bullet fired from this rifle is actually smaller than a 22.(right). And like the 22. it's used for varmints and target practice. Now, I show this for one reason; you are looking at a cop killer.

The .17 HMR is small enough and travels at such a high velocity that that little pointed bullet can worm it's way through bullet proof vests. Many criminals carry these when committing bank robberies because they know they might be able to take down vested officers. But how often do we hear about it on the news? Rarely, because it doesn't look the role of a cop killer.

I'm not a gun nut; I'm a (fairly) reasonable human being. I sympathize with the plight of those suffering in areas of great gun violence, but I refuse to allow national regulations to infringe upon my rights to lessen a crime which won't be affected. The guns on the street aren't coming from the corner gun shop or pawn shops, they're coming from gun runners who enter the U.S. from Mexico and China and sell their arms to gangs. Or the gangs are extensions or have dealings with Mexican and South American drug cartels which in turn arm them and supply them with product to sell.

Furthermore, I'm not against some regulation. Who would want armor piercing rounds on the street? Not me! But I am against placing blame where the blame is not due. I stress how much I hate to speak ill of the dead, but when talking about what happened in Connecticut; the tragic even that started this whole mess. I believe a mother with a mentally disturbed son should not introduce firearms into the home. And, if they are present, they should be kept locked in a gun safe with trigger locks on each weapon and all ammunition in a lockbox. Adam Lanza's mother made a fatal mistake in not securing her firearms.

Finally, I'd like to stress again that America is not just New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and all of those places. I grew up with 1.8 million acres of national forest land at my doorstep. I've been to Forest Service and Logging Camps accessible only by pack mule. I've killed rattle snakes, and I've seen Moose out my living room window. Don't ever think that America isn't wild anymore, and new firearm innovations are worth a heck of a lot to folks like me. And I bet, in our lifetimes, that the day of the woodstock, bolt action, and blued steel hunting rifle will draw to a close. Carbon fiber, plastic, and things that look closer to the AR15 than the 30.06 will take their place in the mainstream. Not to say that many won't still use the old style of rife, of course they will! But innovation is what drives us. We're always going to produce a lighter, more accurate, and more powerful gun.

Sorry for off topic long ass post.

Even though I strongly find guns to be very pointless and unreasonably dangerous weapons, I do understand gun restrictions won't solve the violence issue.

Nevertheless, no one needs a gun, with the one exception of hunting for food, and even then, you don't need an assault rifle, an AK, or a machine to hunt for food. No animal is that tough to kill.

As for the violence, people just need to stop being so damn selfish and work together as a community. I'm tired of hearing people say, "I need a gun to protect my family." I call bullshit, because I can speak for everyone when I say we would all much rather live in an environment where a gun is not needed to survive. We need to work together to make communities safe, and we do that my stregnthening the children. Encourage them to go to school, help them persue their dreams and life long goals, give them reason to want something better than a high crime neighborhood. If less people feel the need to use violence to make ends meet, then less violence will ensue.

As for the gun restrictions, I know taking something will only lead to crime just to get it back, but I cannot for the life of me see why anyone would feel the need to use heavy assault weapons. Now, owning them is not an issue for me. I myself happen to be fascinated by blade weapons, and I plan to be a collector. However, I am not going to use them for hunting or self-defense, because that would be unnecessary. I don't need to use a saber to kill a deer.

I'm going to start with a common misconception.



That is a Maschinengewehr 42. It is a machine gun produced by Nazi Germany. You would never find this in the home of a private citizen unless it is nonworking or the person went to the trouble to go through all of the red tape to get an automatic weapons permit, which are usually sold for commercial purposes. I.E. shooting ranges where you pay $10 to shoot a real machine gun. It fires between 1,200 and 1,500 rounds per minute.



This is a Thompson submachine gun. It is not a machine gun; that distinction is important. It is small automatic weapon designed to fire pistol rounds. The fully automatic version of this weapon can fire roughly 600 rounds per minute. The American G.I.'s carried this into the Second World War; many collectors have these as they are an important piece of history. However, because most U.S. states forbid automatic weapons, the Thompson is converted to semi-auto. Because it is durable, fires the readily available 45ACP, and is relatively small a lot of farmers and loggers tend to keep this gun around for dealing with wildlife. With a 30 round stick, this gun is equal to two FNP45 pistols.




This is an M1 Garand. It is an assault rifle. U.S. G.Is carried this weapon into battle in the Second World War. It fires at 24 RPM and is chambered (usually) in Springfield 30.06. 30.06 is very popular today for big game hunting; particularly Bear, Elk, and Moose. Garands are quite expensive these days, retailing between 1-9 thousand dollars; so they aren't often used for hunting. Some do use them to hunt, but mostly they are target rifles.



This is an AR15; IT IS NOT A MACHINE GUN. And, by definition it is not even an Assault Rifle, as the AR15 was never used by the military. The AR15 is the civilian model of the military's M16. The difference is that AR15 has never featured a fully automatic or 3 round burst function (prototypes did, but these prototypes became the M16). Now, as I said before this rifle is a pea-shooter compared to others and since it is semi-automatic, the most you could ever get off in a minute would be around 30; barely more than the extremely more powerful M1 Garand. The AR15 is for varmint and smaller medium game; deer at most. The AR15 is remarkably weak gun despite all of its bad press. You wouldn't want one for something that is "tough to kill." The AR15 is not fully automatic, it is not extremely powerful, and it is NOT a military weapon.

The AR15 is a light, low-recoil firearm; it is the future of firearms. In time, more and more civilian hunting rifles will look less like the standard woodstock and steel and more like AR15s. The more they progress in preventing these types of guns from jamming and increasing the size of the bullet it can fire, more common they will become among hunters. They're light, they're efficient, and arguably better.

Now onto another point. I don't hunt. I find it boring and I don't really enjoy it; I'm a target shooter. I personally own a 22. Roughrider Revolver, a 45. Colt Peacemaker, a Mosin-Nagant, and a 30.30 lever action.

Now, 22.s are illegal to hunt with; any rimfire gun is illegal to hunt with. My 45. which I cherish is something I'd never take out into the woods. The Mosin is impractical for hunting, and extremely loud. Really, my 30.30 is the only real hunting rifle I own.

Now, you've made a mistake. Guns are necessary for people like me for protection. Protection from people? No, not really. Protection from animals. I grew up surrounded by coyotes, rattlesnakes, bears, cougars, and wolves. These are dangerous creatures and I can say with all sincerity I owe my life, at least twice, to the being armed. Two times in my life I have been endangered by rattlers and two times I was rescued by my brother's quick shooting. I very well could have died, as both times we were miles from our home, on foot, hiking in the wilderness, and our home was 50 miles from the nearest hospital.

Beyond that, hunters and hikers are often forced to defend themselves from cougar, bear, and wolf attacks. Pet owners regularly have to shoot coyotes to protect their dogs and cats. Farmers need to protect their livestock from foxes, coyotes, cougars, and wolves. And loggers need to protect themselves from wolves, cougars, and bears.

In fact, AR15s, like shotguns, are becoming fixtures in logging sites. It used to be that the noise of the machinery would attract curious cougars or awaken hibernating bears and if the animals became violent, the men would use a semi-auto shotgun to deal with it. However, the danger of getting in range of a rabid coyote or raccoon was always present. The AR15 allows for loggers to dispatch rabid animals quickly, at a distance, and...less messily.

And don't ever think that guns fail to prevent crimes. Back home, police failed to prevent crimes. Why? They were too damn far away. My county is
2,488.10 sq miles and only the county seat has city cops; all the rest is patrolled by county police, and state troopers rarely come to our parts. The response time in the more rural areas is too long. So, to protect their interests most people in my county are armed.

Now, they're not worried about murder as much as they are thieves. The days of cattle-rustling are long gone, but the spirit lives on in gas and equipment thieves.

Now, where I live a lot of loggers and ranchers have their own gas pumps; it insures that their trucks will at least make it to town if they're low on fuel.

Often, people will come in late at night and steal gasoline from these pumps. Often times, they'll also take chainsaws and other equipment that's rather expensive.

The police response to these places could be as great as 2 hours, so most people act. My grandmother acted.

My grandparents had a ranch and they had a gas pump. Well some teens kept coming and stealing their gas, and one night when my grandfather was away the teens came and my grandmother took action. First, she stepped out onto the porch and told them to get. Their response was that she should go inside before she gets hurts. My grandma, recognizing the threat, pulled her sawed off shotgun and fired into the air. The kids then began to speed off and left one of their own behind!

Grandma took the boy inside, lectured him at gunpoint, and sent him on his way.

That's life out here. I don't expect all of you to understand the feelings I have, but know that they are strong. Guns are a way of life where I come from; police, mace, rape whistles- ineffective when you're so far from help. Guns make life better and safer for folks like me. I learned to shoot from my dad and brothers, my dad learned from his dad, and so on. However, we all learned for the same reason; it's necessary for where we live. Those who have never lived in such a way won't understand, but guns and progress in making them more efficient truly make life better for my people: rural westerners.

As I said before, never ever believe that America isn't wild anymore. Come home with me, and I'll show you America.

I think someone should rewrite the fresh prince song to go with this now

**Moments before, young Travis Clawson's cell phone is hacked, and his voice message...changed.


Shit would've never happened at Bayside.

This is the part that caught my attention.

The thing that gets me with this is that people make this very statement as if it is impossible to live on different terms. No, I am not shooting down your lifestyle, but I am shooting down the presenting of it, as if it isn't a choice.

I grew up in an environment where gun shots were heard like chirping birds, yet I never had to fire a bullet to avoid one. The police station was literally a few blocks from where I lived, and they never came for anything until it was too late. Everyone's lives were in constant jeaporady, but we didn't solve the issue with weapons. We solved it by becoming one big stupid family. All the adults took care of every kid, and all the kids looked out for each other like siblings. We could have got ourselves some guns and fought back against every body of criminals that walked our streets, but we didn't. We saved the neighborhood with bonding, and now the area is safer than ever.

In all actuality coltess, you chose to continue living in a rural area, and you chose to use a gun to deal with certain issues. You are allowed to have that choice, but please do not act as if it is the only way, even in the rural areas, because it isn't. I've lived in rural areas myself, both in Georgia and Texas. I've seen some pretty crazy shit. I myself was even held at gunpoint, at the age of fifteen, by the brother of my mother's landlord. And in that area, the nearest police station was almost a town away. Still, I chose a route that didn't include using a gun.

You never needed a gun, you just decided to have one. Again, I'm not shooting down your lifestyle. I happen to have quite a few close friends who are proud gun owners, and I've had this same talk with most of them. Nevertheless, know that it is an option to have a gun, not an ultimatum. And know that a gun is not the only solution to a violent situation. There is always a way around violence. My existence is proof.






Again, for the sake of remaining on good terms, I would like to clarify that I am not shooting down your lifestyle. Despite my strong feelings towards guns, I still very much understand people do have the right to have one, even though I think that's really stupid. lol

I'll say this much, if the places some of you guys live are too filled with gun violence and shit, you should all come live here in Laurel, MD. About the only remotely violent gun related thing to happen here was the assassination attempt on governor George Wallace at the shopping center back in the day. Other than that, this is like the most dull, boring ass place in the world. That's why I likes it, lmfao.