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IamTheS
03/31/2004 06:20 PM (UTC)
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DeadlyWarrior Wrote:
Why the hell did you just bump this topic?
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Bump it, my ass. I had something legitimate to say to a topic that was not dead. Anyway, fan games fit under the same category as fanart and fanfics; as long as no profit is made, nothing illegal happens.

Man... why do I know all this legal crap...?
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outworld222
03/31/2004 06:37 PM (UTC)
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How is it possible not to make profits when you sell a video game? Are you suggesting he give it away for free?
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RammSPOOn
03/31/2004 08:02 PM (UTC)
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Not to mention he said he's from Korea, and that it's a Doshin project, and if my limited knowledge of Japanese is correct (they have their similarities, people :P), then it's similar to a Doujinshi circle. Doujinshi's are fancreated manga (comics) that are perfectly legal over in Japan (and I'm assuming Korea). My guessing would be that they accept donations but otherwise their products are free to the general public. And, it's how many big name comic artists got their start over there.

SO, after that lecture about the Japanese Market, what he's doing is perfectly legal where he's from so far as I could tell you.
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Hyuga
03/31/2004 09:05 PM (UTC)
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I forgot about Doujin. He actually COULD sell this and not get sued.
RammSPOOn Wrote:
Not to mention he said he's from Korea, and that it's a Doshin project, and if my limited knowledge of Japanese is correct (they have their similarities, people :P), then it's similar to a Doujinshi circle. Doujinshi's are fancreated manga (comics) that are perfectly legal over in Japan (and I'm assuming Korea). My guessing would be that they accept donations but otherwise their products are free to the general public. And, it's how many big name comic artists got their start over there.

SO, after that lecture about the Japanese Market, what he's doing is perfectly legal where he's from so far as I could tell you.

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03/31/2004 10:12 PM (UTC)
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I don't think that anything coule be done about the look of the characters, but if the game was called 'Mortal Kombat' which is a trademarked name from Midway, and the characters were called 'Sonya Blade' Johnny Cage, etc then they are also trademarks to Midway.

They cannot be used.

It's similar to the whole Windows/Lindows saga going on at the moment. Except that it's a little different because it's not identical in the naming.

Microsoft are winning that court case and Lindows is not allowed to be distributed in certain countries.

That may be off topic a little, but it does show that trademarks are not allowed to be used.

If this person changed the title of the game, and the character names were changed I'm sure there wouldn't be any problem at all.
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Hyuga
03/31/2004 10:31 PM (UTC)
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Research doujin or stop posting, because it's obvious that you're not listening to anybody in this thread.
AussieNinja Wrote:
I don't think that anything coule be done about the look of the characters, but if the game was called 'Mortal Kombat' which is a trademarked name from Midway, and the characters were called 'Sonya Blade' Johnny Cage, etc then they are also trademarks to Midway.

They cannot be used.

It's similar to the whole Windows/Lindows saga going on at the moment. Except that it's a little different because it's not identical in the naming.

Microsoft are winning that court case and Lindows is not allowed to be distributed in certain countries.

That may be off topic a little, but it does show that trademarks are not allowed to be used.

If this person changed the title of the game, and the character names were changed I'm sure there wouldn't be any problem at all.

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04/01/2004 12:00 AM (UTC)
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I believe that doujinshi is technically only legal if the original company is a Japanese-based company. But that is because Japanese companies are not litigation friendly. Nintendo does tend to crack down on doujinshi so they may be one Japanese company that are an exception.

In this case it is Midway, a US company.

If this person is from Korea, then the laws do not protect him.

I don't really want to argue this with you or anyone else. I am just stating what copyright and trademark laws state themselves. The legalities of it could work either way if it did go that far anyhow.


I'm not flaming you, nor anyone else. It's my personal opinion and I have every right to say this, just as you do.

But the copyright and trademark law can lead into huge battles in court.

It really is a touchy issue, and something that only Midway could take further depending on whether they see that it could effect the MK franchise in a negative way.
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SubScorpTile
04/01/2004 12:27 AM (UTC)
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damn that looks mad kool wtg yay yay yat.
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JoRdANMan
04/01/2004 01:04 AM (UTC)
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outworld222 Wrote:
How is it possible not to make profits when you sell a video game? Are you suggesting he give it away for free?

U will just download the game, its not for a system or anything. Just a fan made computer game.
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IamTheS
04/02/2004 03:59 AM (UTC)
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Yeah. Fan game. Free download. No profit. Nothing illegal. End of story.

In any case, fistofglory, please give us more information as you are alotted to release; a lot of us are really looking forward to it.
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Rudolph
04/02/2004 10:33 PM (UTC)
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This is like a special MK1! Also do this type
of thing for the other Mortal Kombats
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FistofGlory
04/03/2004 11:55 AM (UTC)
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Game system :
Evary chars have classic moves + advanced / new moves ( more impressive, dynamic effects)

Guage system : for super moves and max-fatalities

Another characters : Hidden character(s) from original MK series (12+? chars)

Mid-boss : classic mid-boss

Final boss : ???

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salbeinit
04/03/2004 05:10 PM (UTC)
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this looks like this so i dont think theyll have problems.

anyway bout the game. the only thing i dont like its the male frost and the pink haired girl, but as long as u dont put a girl with a sailor moon outfit. it looks ok.
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FistofGlory
04/03/2004 09:56 PM (UTC)
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Okay, I know your advice. similar-look characters?
I made that guy by design(Sub-Zeros are strikingly similar to other Sub-Zeros, do you know MKI Sub-Zero ending?)
Clone-like-ninjas had a story... the fate of Lin-Kuei. It's the next point for Sub-Zero juniors.

And... first look of Li mei, ppl don't think she can't fit MK series.
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IamTheS
04/04/2004 06:41 AM (UTC)
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Oh man...
Oh man...
Oh man...

THAT'S EFFING AWESOME!

So who are the new characters for this game, and can you give us a little background on them?
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FistofGlory
04/04/2004 07:30 AM (UTC)
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Here is some infomation

New characters :


Blue-on-black ninja suits(next generation of Sub-Zero, darkside of the Frost) - Eric Carter

Pink-haired dark violet Chinese costume - Jin Soho

Red-burning eyed with dark robe(next generation of Noob Saibot/Rayden) - Hanzo Hiroshi

background... will be show next time (progressing job and detail testing)
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IamTheS
04/05/2004 04:30 AM (UTC)
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Cool, cool. Thanks. Keep up the good work, my man.
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Blade-Tsung
04/05/2004 04:41 AM (UTC)
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Game looks great so far, can't wait to play it.
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04/06/2004 04:13 PM (UTC)
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I like the girl with the pink hair grin
but when will it be finishet and how will we get ower hands on it?

ps can you post a pic of the pinke hairet girl
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IamTheS
04/07/2004 03:23 AM (UTC)
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This looks like it will be the best fanmade game this year - so far.
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fedegita
04/07/2004 12:02 PM (UTC)
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Wow sweetness!! Cannot wait to give it a go, all the best dude! wink
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IamTheS
04/20/2004 03:35 AM (UTC)
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Red-burning eyed with dark robe(next generation of Noob Saibot/Rayden) - Hanzo Hiroshi


Hanzo Hiroshi? Isn't he from Shadow Warriors, and Kill Bill?
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04/25/2004 05:53 AM (UTC)
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04/25/2004 06:48 AM (UTC)
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IAmTheS Wrote:

Red-burning eyed with dark robe(next generation of Noob Saibot/Rayden) - Hanzo Hiroshi

Hanzo Hiroshi? Isn't he from Shadow Warriors, and Kill Bill?

Nope. You're thinking Hanzo Hattori/Hattori Hanzo. I think.
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IamTheS
04/29/2004 03:47 AM (UTC)
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LouisTypo Wrote:
IAmTheS Wrote:

Red-burning eyed with dark robe(next generation of Noob Saibot/Rayden) - Hanzo Hiroshi

Hanzo Hiroshi? Isn't he from Shadow Warriors, and Kill Bill?
Nope. You're thinking Hanzo Hattori/Hattori Hanzo. I think.


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