Yeah, and he's really hard to unlock.

Awesome bio. I love how they merged the two storylines inderectly. So it didn't affect either game.

You mean the same storyline Raiden has had in 3 games now? Any time the earth is in trouble, Raiden has to give up elder god status. Plus Unreal takes place in the 2300's, so Raiden's given up his status, then somehow got it back, and now gave it up again? Plus he's dark now, so why would the Elder Gods let him back, and would the dark atmosphere of Unreal Tournament have been caused by Raiden's lack of caring about mortals, and then he now cares about them again, and FUCK, I just had an aneurism.

The bio's redundant, makes no sense, and has no relevance to Unreal at all. Raiden should consider himself lucky that character bios in Unreal don't matter anything anyway.

Then why do yo make such a big deal out of it?

Well the Unreal Championship titles have never really been about storylines, moreso about gameplay like the Counter Strike series.

Because everyone knows they could've pulled something out of their ass that hasn't been pulled from the MK team's ass twice already. Anything else would've been better than rehashing an already rehashed bio.

True.

First off we don't know if he has become Dark Raiden or not. We'll have to wait until MK7 to find out wether they carried out his storyline/ending. Also the whole bit about him giving up his status they took from the earlier storyline and just reminded us of it as an excuse to have him in the game. As I don't believe he had it Deception.

My understanding of the MK storyline (a pretty good understanding) and taking into account this new bio is:

Raiden's only been given Elder God status once, in his and Fujin's MK4 ending. He gave it up in MKDA (an event mentioned here in the UC2 bio) when he foresaw what was about to accur, and that the Deadly Alliance was going to cause it to happen. He decided to try to visit other realms and participated in the Liandri conflict to scout out new warriors, but in the end, for whatever reason, decided to leave that realm out of it and fight the Deadly Alliance himself.

About his Elder God back/forth - this is not the same thing hapenning multiple times, but one event which is referred to in a couple different games.

About why he might have decided to leave the Unreal Fighters alone and not bring him with them to MKDA afterwards - probably because interfering with the different realms all the time might cause the awakening.

About why UC2 is in the future - seems like Midway is saying it's an alternate Earth. If this is the case, this Earth must have reached the year 2300 AD or whatever around the same time the MK earth is in 2005.

Oh, and I don't know why this post is so lengthy, this story explanation is really a simple one :\ I'll try and make a shorter one later.

Hate to burst that bubble, but that is so far from possible it's crazy. You even told me that you don't know Unreal's storyline, so I'll have to tell it. Unreal takes place 300 years into the future on OUR Earth, not an "alternate". Unreal's maps and stories make references to past events such as WW II, and names of Egyptian kings. Several arenas take place in "New" New York City even, after the old city was destroyed. Several characters in UC2 are in UT2004 as well (Gorge, Malcolm, Brock, and Lauren). Gorge being the current champion. In 2004, Brock and Lauren were human, now they've been killed and resurrected, so it's still taking place after a point in our future. Earth has been through alien invasion, and had even been conquered by the Egyptian aliens. Point simply, it's our Earth, not an alternate, just one fucked up bloody Earth and space.

i might be wrong

but didnt he get his elder got aligement back at the end of annilation?


and since there hasnt bene a real mk tourny since the first one story line wise


cause shinnok wanted his son to break the rules and go over to earth realm


i took this into the point that 3 - 6 are more of team fighting not touriments



this is why raiden could fight in them as a elder god because he is protecting earth realm not as a mk fighter

just like he zaps shujinko for helping the dragon king unwillingly


this also should explain

why instead of getting a prize tthey just give you some story line on what happens after the deadly allience and such

when you beat deceptoin as sub zero it shows him killing tekarians i dont think that was his wish

+ the fact mk tournys only take place every 100 years and only thew inning of the last one is granted immortally until the next one

i think johnny cage and sonya would be old hippies by now if they were all tournies


feed back anyone

Even though it seems just like "our" Earth, you have to understand sci-fi and the way they use alternate Earths. Look at the recent DC/Marvel comics for example. Even though you'd think they're supposed to take place on "our" Earth, they take place on separate Earths from each other. (The companies had to take this approach when they did crazy things like have Lex Luthor be the President.)

Similarly, the UC2 earth seems to have been through an alien invasion of some kind, and the MK earth has been through Shao Kahn's invasion during MK3.

Lastly, Raiden's bio said that he is travelling amongst the realms - along with the UC2 trailer, which said that it would have fighters from other realms - seems to support my alternate Earth theory.

You also need to understand that the Unreal storyline is Epic's, and not Midway's to screw with. There are no other "realms" in the Unreal story, there are only other planets and galaxies in space from where these invaders came from. Putting "realms" in Unreal's storyline would just be copying off MK.

So let's say it's 300 years into the future, Raiden is Dark Raiden now (his MKD bio's have confirmed this and his new attitude towards mortals), so why didn't Raiden interfere with the Skarrj (pronounced "scar") and Egyptian Kingdom invasions? Simply put, he wants mortals to protect their own planet. They did this successfully during the Skaarj invasion, destroying the mothership. That's actually how it's been since the first MK tournament 500 years back. If Earth couldn't protect itself in MK, they'd get conquered. The Gods weren't going to protect Earth directly, they don't make it their business. Earth gets conquered, it gets conquered. That's what happened during the Egyptian invasion. The Elder Gods could care less.

So why is Raiden involved now? There's a few possibilities. As a dark God now, the bloodsport involved in the tournament my be appealing to him. If Raiden sees the Skaarj and Egyptians as threats to the Earth, then maybe Earth's fighters are losing, and he's decided to step in, defeat the invaders, and take control of the tournament. But that's going against the rules that Earth has to protect itself without intervention from Gods. Finally, he may have been invited, just as he didn't involve himself with MK until Shang Tsung made the personal invitation. Liandri (the corporation that created and sponsors the tournament), makes billions of dollars each year off the event. They're also picky of who they allow to fight, sticking with criminals, the wealthy, psychopaths, military, people who wouldn't give a second throught to killing. A dark God wouldn't be any different (as we were shown he possibly did with Shujinko), and Liandri would glady take up an actual deity to participate, boosting their ratings and profit in the process. The perfect combatant.

To the Elder Gods. They see Raiden taking part in this, breaking the rules, and knowing that as an immortal being, he has the massive advantage. So, they decide to punish him by making him mortal, but keeping his powers. This way, he's no different than the rest of Earth's fighters. If he fails and gets killed, that's his fault for interfering, and it keeps the balance of making Earth fight for itself without an unfair advantage.

all i have to say is, midway didn't make it, they only made a copyrighted character from midway they had there permission to do the storyline, trust me if midway made it, it probably would of been way into storyline...but hey some games are not all about storylines this game is about killing people for a high score, just hope some dumb kids don't try it at home or anything...

It's really cool igot it the day it came out but it is really hard to unlock raiden it is so frustraiting!

Do you really have to make such a big deal about it?

I thought I read somewhere that UC2 takes place in a different Realm than MK. He went to another realm to search for warriors. so I'm geussing this happens before DA. our 2005 could be another realms 2300

Oh my God!He's that hard to unlock?!AXLOGRYPHIL!!(from Spirit Liu)

I cannot beleive how hard I am laughing from reading this thread. So many people, bitching, moaning and arguing over a special guest side character that was inserted into a different, unrelated game for no other reason other than a joke or an attempt to draw on the new popularity MK has received again. What is especially funny is that the story element of UC2 is about as relevant to the game as the color of one of the weapon discharges. Who the fuck cares what Raiden's story is in UC2? It doesn't make sense for him to be in it by any means, other than the fact that he is JUST A GUEST CHARACTER WITH ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON THIS GAME OR THE MK FRANCHISE. Christ, find something else to argue about.

And for the record, I still cannot beleive that there are idiots on this forum who think the stories of the MK movie are in anyway related to the games. If you can't figure out by this point that the movies and the games have absolutely nothing to do with each other, other than name and characters, then you don't belong on these forums.

And I also have to laugh at the guy who said 'We don't know if Raiden became Dark Raiden until MK7 hits'...you might as well say 'we don't know if ANY of the characters of MKD were in the game, or if their stories happened, or if MKDA even happened, until MK7'. Somehow, I think if a character undergoes a change as his/her MAIN story of the game, its definitely canon.


*sigh*

anybody want to put up a spoiler for me? I want to know raidens ending and if he has any cutscenes?