To all, the truth in the matter, is the different ethnics and religions are not the problem here. That way of thinking only continues to feed this system. Sure, we all see things a little differently, but we all can, and do live together in a sort of harmony. The "true enemy" in all of the recent events are not religion or race, but rather a sort of twisted mind control. These terrorist have been manipulated to believe that if they eliminate those that are different in how they think or believe, or worship, then they advance to a heaven. The "state of mind" is being controlled here, through religion to achieve ones agenda and gain support. This control is being masked in the Islamic religion, but any religion can fall to this control. We all have some sort of religious back ground, and that is where "we" are most vulnerable to mind control. This is the real danger to our "free world". The "enemies of peace" know this, and use this to gain control. Free the mind and you free the world!!

Savior Wrote: blackwizard Wrote: The only reason it upsets you is because your italian yourself and you dont want to accept it even though its true. and im surprised you didnt give him any skulls crow.. First he insults my ethnicity and then when I call him a ASSHOLE, I get skull points. YOUR A GREAT MOD. I totally agree with you, but you might wanna edit your last sentence out of you post.

Firstly; if "sand people" wasn't a fucking insult to someones ehtnicity? if that wasn't a fucking insult to you i don't know what is.

Secondly; pal, you are an asshole, some italian mafia guy could fucking murder a baby in front of you and somehow the bastard (being the baby) would have had it coming. Because your italian and whatever an italian does is ok, right? wrong bitch!

Thirdly; I do not dislike italians neither does any other person on this board so please don't give us any reasons to dislike them.

Fourthly; Big fucking deal if i am a fucking cunnuck canadian, my oppinions matter as much as yours, if you don't like what i'm saying about italians, don't make me say it, if you can proove me to be a liar about anything i have said regarding the mafia being a terrorist organization, or the pre-wwII italians infact being murderous nazis under mussolinis order killing thousands of innocent people. please inform me of the true facts. Your "race" has a far darker history than the middle easterners do, and like i said due to that fact, if they were to all be exterminated like insects because after all thats what you believe them to be, then it would only be fair that all italians, germans, and austrians be exterminated for their crimes against humanity as well. If not then the same ammount of forgiveness should be awarded to the middle easterners.

Lastly; When you say "sand people" or insult middle eastern people, or say thy should all die, is a direct insult to me, not because i am from there i am an irish canadian, but because my g/f of 2 years is. So i along with most of the people visiting these boards would greatly appreciate it if you would keep your genecidally retarded thoughts in your head.

grizzle Wrote: Hyuga sorry to say, but the Mafia is going to be around for a long time, even if police crack down hard on them they live here, Mafia people have home residences in the states.

Same with the terrorists. Even if you bomb every square inch of Iraq, there are still going be terrorists. I only mentioned the mob to illustrate my point. They kill people. So do terrorists. Now, I know very well that terrorists kill innocent people, but are you saying that in all the years of the mafia being around innocent people have never been killed by any members? I'm not talking about random people off the street. I'm talking about people that are family members or friends of people that got involved with the mob. They're innocent. They didn't do anything. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, which isn't unlike the people in Iraq.

To any Italians I've offended, I didn't mean to. I said what I said to try to illustrate my point without having to fully explain it (even though I ended up having to anyway). The Italian mafia was just the first thing that popped into my head. I have nothing against Italians, In fact, my second family, the Piverottos, are Italian. Sorry again.

WOAH!!

I never said "Sand People"!! Re-Read all of my posts. You, Savior, And Blackwizard are the ONLY people on this thread making insults! I never said that! And why haven't you been banned yet? You called me an "asshole Nazi Turd" if I remember correctly.

Before you accuse someone of saying something extreme like that you better make sure its right or you'll only embarass yourself.

I don't know if you're goal is to get me to a point where I am banned but.. Its not gonna happen. Enough of the bullshit.

I dunno about the others but I was never trying to get you banned. Its just a huge insult to me when someone says my country should be bombed and have thousands killed because of some muslim terrorists. Now being christain myself, I dont ever want my people or any innocent people to die if they dont have it coming to them.

If you still dont understand where im coming from (and you probably dont) lets fantasize something here. Lets say that the italians were out of control and the mob started killing people in the U.S. and you were browsing through a internet forum and you found me saying "lets kill em all!"

What would your reaction be?

this beheading along with nick berg's and paul johnson's beheadings are tha most disturbing and inhumane things ive ever seen. them terrorists are some grimey ass people. i felt so damn bad after seeing the korean guy pleading for his life on tv. may he and the others brutally killed in iraq rest in peace.

blackwizard Wrote: I dunno about the others but I was never trying to get you banned. Its just a huge insult to me when someone says my country should be bombed and have thousands killed because of some muslim terrorists. Now being christain myself, I dont ever want my people or any innocent people to die if they dont have it coming to them. If you still dont understand where im coming from (and you probably dont) lets fantasize something here. Lets say that the italians were out of control and the mob started killing people in the U.S. and you were browsing through a internet forum and you found me saying "lets kill em all!" What would your reaction be?

i know where you're coming from blackwizard, im christian, too. someone like the_cold_kombatant or anyone else in this world saying something like "lets just bomb iraq and kill everyone in it" just tells me that you're tha most ignorant person ive heard of. if you're american, european, or asian and you say "lets just bomb iraq and kill everyone in it", think about this: when you say that the whole country of iraq should be bombed and everyone in it should be killed, aren't you implying that everyone (including innocent american soldiers & civilians, european soldiers & civilians, & asian soldiers & civilians) should be killed? that means tha war on terror in iraq or elsewhere has been accomplished but without many innocent american, european, asian soldiers & civilians, & maybe even your relatives that might be in iraq losing their lives in the process. wouldn't you want them to come back home safely? there are iraqis in that country that want to leave and also @ the same time wanting peace, but there are iraqi rebels and muslim extremists that want things to be the way they were in the past, meaning "no western influence." war doesn't always go by the rules, actually, it never does. nobody seems to follow the rules set in the geneva convention. nobody in this world deserves to die. if you were tha most dispicable person alive, just pray to god that he judges you fairly and just, if not, you're screwed. but ultimately, everybody meets their end. but watch what you say, watch what comes out of your mouth because everything you do or say comes back to you 10times harder than it was before. there will never be peace, there will always be chaos and mayhem. just do us all a favor, do not instigate it because it will come back to you and bite you on tha ass.

"The roof is on fire. Burn, motherfucker, burn." Kill them fuckin' terrorists and islamic militants.

And Hyuga. You see there are plenty other mafias, they're not only Italians.

blackwizard Wrote: The only reason it upsets you is because your italian yourself and you dont want to accept it even though its true. and im surprised you didnt give him any skulls crow.. First he insults my ethnicity and then when I call him a ASSHOLE, I get skull points. YOUR A GREAT MOD.

First of all, I give skull points whenever they are needed. I searched for this "sand people" comment, and could not locate it. If he did make such a comment, he removed it before I had the chance to rate these posts. Some one should have quoted it and then I could have possibly done something about it.

He did however receive skull points on the first page of this thread whenever I found him to be out of line, so I suggest researching the facts before making such accusations.

As far as this Italian mob/Terrorists discussion goes, it has nothing to do with the topic at hand and I do not wish to see it continue here.

First of all...

Just because one has a bloodline coming from the middle east doesn't mean they are terrorist. Period. I say middle east because obviously some of the ignorant fools that want all of Iraq mercilessly destroyed would obviously consider someone who looks Arabic to be an Iraqi.


Next order of business : Trying to justify the mafia's actions is.. stupid. Besides.. it's all a matter of perspective if one considers what the mafia does to be "ok." From what I've seen.. the said terrorists aren't getting your family killed because of money you owe. Murder is murder. Even if you videotape it.

Kinda like what Hyuga says... If all Iraqi's should die just because they have the same ethnicity of terrorists... then the logical explanation would be to kill all the Italians because they have the same ethnicity as mafia members (as they both kill) and so on and so forth. (For the record... I'm not racist and this post was not intended to offend anybody.)
Err.. yanno.. I guess I made this entire post based off of misinterpretation. Cold_Kombatant... do you happen to want ALL Iraqi's.. even the non-terrorists killed?

Omg...

Fucking ridiculous. I love how someone can never defend themselves on this board without getting skulled. I didn't even say anything bad and I SURE AS HELL didn't say that bullshit sand people line. Whatever.

Crow, i made that post before the genius got any skull points. Im sorry for that last remark. please accept my apology as that post was written in anger and frustration.

*sigh*

Being the human being and a MUSLIM that I am, I will not start anything bad and make any enemies here as I am NOT really supposed to...

I'll start off by saying this, I will not flame or yell at the ones saying "kill em all" because it just shows they haven't been taught enough about both sides and they don't know that the only muslims they're basically showing on the news are the bad ones, the corrupted ones. Those fuckers think they're doing the right thing by killing "partly" innocent people! I was disgusted at how the bastards were chanting my god "Allah"'s name as they killed him. How dare those sons of bithes use Allahs name for BEHEADING someone! The shit eating assholes are making the rest of us muslims look bad and causing these ignorant people to say "kill em all!" What gives you the right to say that? Bush has bombed MANY innocent people and I don't see the iraqis, afghans, or the rest of the muslims going around talking like that about the americans saying "kill em all". I can understand someone reacting that way because I feel bad for the beheaded people too. But you gotta remember, there's killers EVERYWHERE no matter what race you are, the mafia, murderers, and the rest of the criminals!

So I will stand up and apologize to everyone hurt or saddened by the things cock sucking sons of bitches have done...

I'm just disgusted... disgusted at how they used our gods name, and caused the ignorant ones to hate us...

The killers will all burn in hell...

ALLAHU AKHBAR

Shut up about the Italian thing! I've had enough of it!! Me being Italian myself, I feel threatened since one user says "Let's kill all the Italians too. Alot of them are in mobs." But I am not in a mob. You are acting just like that King in the bible (I'm not trying to bring religion into this, sorry if it seems that way.) The King said "Kill all boys 2 and younger" or something like that. (I do't go to church anymore

all it takes is a little understanding on both sides here, noone dislikes italians in general, everyone hates the mob, except Cold who seems utterly infatuated by them, and most people with the possible exception of Cold, provided it wasnt a crude attempt at hoarding attention, noone dislikes arabs or desi's in general, but everyone hates terrorists. Theres the reason why we have been jumping down a certain few board members throats because they have little or no respect for other people. And how can anyone have respect for someone who clearly doesnt respect other people even enough to let them have their lives should he ever somehow god forbid acquire "power", there is no reason for this to continue any further than it already has, i do however think that on Colds part the arab and desi people visiting this board do require an apology, and aknowledgement that they do not all deserve death because they are what they are. Much like you Cold or any other italian on this board does not deserve to be persecuted or killed because you are italian. So Cold put the big nasty words away and show your a man, you got any balls, proove it a real man owns up to what he has done wrong. So lets have it now.

Everyone has an opinion. Just because people don't agree with Cold's opinion doesn't mean he should have to 'have balls and apologize'.

I hope he doesn't apologize, because sticking to his opinion tho ppl have flamed him has shown he has the 'balls' you speak of.

You, Cold, me, or anyone else has no right to say someones opinion is wrong just because we disagree.

(munching)... popcorn anyone?

Theres no way im apologizing for anything.

Hooky-Fooky Wrote: Shut up about the Italian thing! I've had enough of it!! Me being Italian myself, I feel threatened since one user says "Let's kill all the Italians too. Alot of them are in mobs." But I am not in a mob. You are acting just like that King in the bible (I'm not trying to bring religion into this, sorry if it seems that way.) The King said "Kill all boys 2 and younger" or something like that. (I do't go to church anymore

If you feel offended by the stuff mentioned then just stop being Italian. LOL jk. But dig it dude, Hyuga was just making an analogy. Cold Kombatant was saying "kill em all" like... some thought he meant kill ALL the Iraqi's just because they have the same race as the terrorist. So Hyuga replied with the same logic about Italians.

Cold_Kombatant... do you happen to want ALL Iraqi's.. even the non-terrorists killed, even though they blatantly don't have the same beliefs as the terrorists?

I know what ya mean but it just bothered me about Hyuga saying the Italian thing. I guess i'm over it. And yes not all people in Iraq are evil. It's just a select few. So there shouldn't be any more talk about that.

I've tried to resist this thread with every bit of strength I have. But fuck it. I'm tired of reading this shit.

I was 100% for going into Iraq, and I haven't changed my opinion at all since the invasion itself. But by no means, was I ever supporting it under the notion "kill 'em all!" People can whine all they want about oil and about raping culture, but a large portion of innocent people in Iraq were/are living in shit. Their government was shit. Their basic freedoms were shit. Their living status was shit. Their treatment as human beings was even shit. Their leader was a crazy Son of a Bitch, and things were only going to get worse. So America completely derailed his regime, and now we're going to help re-construct it, along with the repairing the damage we've caused in the process. Are they still living in shit? Definitely. But without oppression, there is hope that a better, less horrible future is ahead. There was no trace of that as long as Sadamn was still in power, as well as his heirs.

I'm sorry so many innocent people died. It didn't have to happen, it shouldn't have ever occured. But that's what happens when you spend years watching a tyrant ass-fuck it's people, and finally do something about when the people are in a a living version of hell. I'm also sorry our own soldiers had to piss all over the dignity of the prisoners of war. We're better than that, and we're just as horrible as they are if we twist justice into revenge. I don't condone what that did by any means.

I don't give a shit if Bush went into Iraq for oil. All I care about are the lives of those in Iraq, and the freedom which they deserve.

Temp, your views are always right on the money for showing us all good, wholesome "american values"!! Well said!!!

Thank GOD you and I live in a country where we can make our opinions be known, and not loose our very lives for them. The debates here, although crued at times by some, are a healthy reflection from our very freedoms. Many have had to die for this privilege we share. I hope this very same freedom, we share, spreads to their poor nation too. I think they have suffered enough pain aswell. Isn't freedom, this freedom to live as one chooses, wourth the blood so many have had to spill?

TemperaryUserName Wrote: I've tried to resist this thread with every bit of strength I have. But fuck it. I'm tired of reading this shit. I was 100% for going into Iraq, and I haven't changed my opinion at all since the invasion itself. But by no means, was I ever supporting it under the notion "kill 'em all!" People can whine all they want about oil and about raping culture, but a large portion of innocent people in Iraq were/are living in shit. Their government was shit. Their basic freedoms were shit. Their living status was shit. Their treatment as human beings was even shit. Their leader was a crazy Son of a Bitch, and things were only going to get worse. So America completely derailed his regime, and now we're going to help re-construct it, along with the repairing the damage we've caused in the process. Are they still living in shit? Definitely. But without oppression, there is hope that a better, less horrible future is ahead. There was no trace of that as long as Sadamn was still in power, as well as his heirs. I'm sorry so many innocent people died. It didn't have to happen, it shouldn't have ever occured. But that's what happens when you spend years watching a tyrant ass-fuck it's people, and finally do something about when the people are in a a living version of hell. I'm also sorry our own soldiers had to piss all over the dignity of the prisoners of war. We're better than that, and we're just as horrible as they are if we twist justice into revenge. I don't condone what that did by any means. I don't give a shit if Bush went into Iraq for oil. All I care about are the lives of those in Iraq, and the freedom which they deserve.

we do not belong judging any of the terrorist that is gods job and no punishment we can think of is worse then hell

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-0subzero Wrote: we do not belong judging any of the terrorist that is gods job and no punishment we can think of is worse then hell