Ni hao!

I've studied Shaolin Wu Shu (T'ien Shan Pai system). Once I save up enough money, I wish to get into another chinese system.

Great Idea you had creating this thread. There should be a ton of great discussions coming out of this thread in the future.

GD

Tournament Event: U.S. Capitol Classics International Martial Arts Tournament

For those in the D.C/Maryland/Virginia Metro Area, the event is going down in Washington D.C. on August 13th and 14th at the Crystal Gateway Marriot.

I'm gonna try to be there.
http://www.uscapitolclassics.com/
Ghost Dragon

I took karate for a couple years when I was about 11 or 12. I don't remember much of it, since it was so long ago.

I have an interest in martial arts, but sadly most of my experience of seeing them in practice has been from the Matrix trilogy and MKDA, the latter of which, as we know, isn't very accurate. Sometimes I practice pseudo-martial arts "kata" type training, mainly by mixing various techniques from the aforementioned sources.

I've considered taking some type of kung fu (perhaps dragon or hung gar) or maybe jujitsu, but I don't know if I have the discipline or commitment to take it seriously. Although I do have an issue of "inside kung fu" magazine which asdvertises numerous instructional videos; maybe I should order one.

Unfortunately I haven't seen any movies by famous martial arts actors like Bruce Lee, Jet Li or Jackie Chan (except Rush Hour), so I can't really say I have a favorite martial arts movie or actor. However, I have read a bit of Bruce Lee's JKD philosophy on JKD, and it seems very interesting.

As far as favorite martial arts styles, I can only say from what I've seen in MKDA. Dragon, Hung Gar, Tang Soo Do, Escrima, Nan Chuan, Hapkido, and Pi Gua are probably my favorites just because they look cool. Also from what I've read about Jujutsu it seems like a very effective, practical style; the issue of "Inside Kung Fu" I mentioned earlier has an article on Pentjak Silat Serak, an Indonesian style that also seems quite interesting.

Does anyone know of any websites where I could download demonstrations of various martial arts styles?

I have one url, but i'm not sure if i'm allowed to post it.If you want to, PM me. Hey GD, did you mean tournament like in fighting tournament? That's tight. As for martial arts footage, why don't you by a couple of movies? it's not that expensive.
Sadly the martial arts in DA were not that accurate, but hopefully that'll be better in Deception.

Oops, forgot to mention i'm also a big fan of Jackie Chan and his crew, a supreme proof that martial arts and humor CAN coexist.

And could you develop on that indonesian style? It seems very interesting.

xcarnagex Wrote: I took karate for a couple years when I was about 11 or 12. I don't remember much of it, since it was so long ago. I have an interest in martial arts, but sadly most of my experience of seeing them in practice has been from the Matrix trilogy and MKDA, the latter of which, as we know, isn't very accurate. Sometimes I practice pseudo-martial arts "kata" type training, mainly by mixing various techniques from the aforementioned sources. I've considered taking some type of kung fu (perhaps dragon or hung gar) or maybe jujitsu, but I don't know if I have the discipline or commitment to take it seriously. Although I do have an issue of "inside kung fu" magazine which asdvertises numerous instructional videos; maybe I should order one. Unfortunately I haven't seen any movies by famous martial arts actors like Bruce Lee, Jet Li or Jackie Chan (except Rush Hour), so I can't really say I have a favorite martial arts movie or actor. However, I have read a bit of Bruce Lee's JKD philosophy on JKD, and it seems very interesting. As far as favorite martial arts styles, I can only say from what I've seen in MKDA. Dragon, Hung Gar, Tang Soo Do, Escrima, Nan Chuan, Hapkido, and Pi Gua are probably my favorites just because they look cool. Also from what I've read about Jujutsu it seems like a very effective, practical style; the issue of "Inside Kung Fu" I mentioned earlier has an article on Pentjak Silat Serak, an Indonesian style that also seems quite interesting. Does anyone know of any websites where I could download demonstrations of various martial arts styles?

xcarnagex Wrote: "I've considered taking some type of kung fu (perhaps dragon or hung gar) or maybe jujitsu, but I don't know if I have the discipline or commitment to take it seriously. Although I do have an issue of "inside kung fu" magazine which asdvertises numerous instructional videos; maybe I should order one... Does anyone know of any websites where I could download demonstrations of various martial arts styles?"

First off, I'd say that watching the beginners videos are perfectly fine. The thing is if you havent been traineng for a long period of time or at least been stretching and doing regular exersices, you could injure yourself trying to perform the techniques that you see, but I'm not saying that they are bad at all. They can be great references into to seeing what each discipline has to offer.

Here's some links to see some Wu Shu gifs, sequential pics, and videos. Enjoy

http://www.beijingwushuteam.com/Ani/

http://www.beijingwushuteam.com/video.html

http://www.beijingwushuteam.com/action.html


I'm Ghost!

Ghost Dragon

Well, since it seems to be O.K, here is one.

www.totalwarrior.com(or something VERY similar.)
This one is about ninjitsu, but still, it's fun to watch, and interesting as well.

Hey ghostdragon, do you know where i can find Bruce Lee demonstration vids?(i already have the movies, i was wondering about other vids&pics that concern Bruce Lee.)

Tae-Kwon-Do for 2 Years (Assassin Karate The Teacher said).

Jean Claude Van Damme & Lorenzo Lamas used to be My Heroes.

Hmm, who is Lorenzo Lamas? could you mention movies/tv shows he's been in?

Lorenzo Lamas. OH MAN! I'm not gonna knock his Iado proficientcy or his other discliplines cause he is pretty good. But that guy is a prick!

I used to like that dude when he was on Renegade. Then he showed his true colours when reports came out about his marrage to that playmate and when he came off as arrogant on that ABC reality show.

Man, talk about letting someone down!

GD

Renegade?
To talk about being let down, Van Damme was a dissapointement to me. Talk about punch drunk...

And BTW, what martial art does Lorenzo Lamas study?

Lamas has studied Karate, Taekwondo and Iado(Art of Japanese sword drawing).

Renegade was this cool show about a former cop, Lamas, who was set up by former cops in the murder of his girlfriend. So he hooks up with a bounty hunter to track down people who skipped bail while trying to find the evidence that would clear his name and evading the cooked cop who framed him.

Wasn't a bad show, until the latter part of the series where the show lost steam.

GD

And let's expand on the dissapointment theme, Stevel Segal! MAN! Every time I saw him break some poor bastards are or leg it actually looked like it hurt. And those time when some guy would cry, "You broke my nose!" or, "MY LEG, YOU BROKE MY LEG!" It was hilarious!

Then his movies went down hill when On Deadly Ground, The Glimmer Man, and Fire Down Below came along. I admit Exit Wounds was was somewhat watchable.

Take a look at his new projects:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000219/

He's doing tons of straight to video/cable tripe. Same thing with Van Damme.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000241/

GD

well i study tea kwon do( for people that have mortal kombta:deceadly allience this martial art is from sonya) is a kick ass one im still studying ive broken tabales stuff like that.but im still a white belt im probably turning yellow in june

i was going to study karate but i found tea kwon do better and funner.!

ghostdragon Wrote: First off, I'd say that watching the beginners videos are perfectly fine. The thing is if you havent been traineng for a long period of time or at least been stretching and doing regular exersices, you could injure yourself trying to perform the techniques that you see, but I'm not saying that they are bad at all.

I know what you mean; I'm not especially flexible, and I don't really stretch as much as I should. Sometimes when I practice kicking too much, my legs will get sore.

By the way, is there a major idfference between wushu and other kung fu? I don't know much about it, but my kung fu magazine seems to suggest that it's more about performance art than practical fighting techniques. Also I've read that Shaolin wushu has very little to do with the actual practices of the Shaolin temples. Can you fill me in on this?

Cyborg_Wolf, unfortunately, while the magazine had a few demonstration pictures of Silat Serak techniques, it didn't go into much detail on the specific principles of the art. It discussed leg trapping and hand blitzes, but I'm really not sure what that all means. The article itself was mostly an interview with the man who was the first to open a school for the art in the US, and it was primarily about the history of it, and why it has been gaining popularity. I haven't had any success in finding a good description of the techniques, or a video demonstration or anything like that.

xcarnagex By the way, is there a major idfference between wushu and other kung fu? I don't know much about it, but my kung fu magazine seems to suggest that it's more about performance art than practical fighting techniques. Also I've read that Shaolin wushu has very little to do with the actual practices of the Shaolin temples. Can you fill me in on this?

OH MAN!!! Your question is one of the most debated issues that nearly every Gung Fu martial arts message board has disputes and discussions over. So I'll just give you my view.

Here's the thing. From what I see, those who regard Wu Shu as a demonstration or performance art are basing that from observing that competitive sport of International Wu Shu Competitions. The most famous being the Beijin Wu Shu Tean coached by Wu Bin. The sport came about when China decreed a messure decades ago something to the effect of, "Chinese should not fight other Chinese", or something like that. Even since then provinces have established their own teams in competition to display the art of Wu Shu in a sompetition/sports setting. Now with the Communist Party have the rep that it normally did back then, some feel that it was a way for martial artists to still display thir abilities, but at the same time to discourage an uprising. I'm not entirely sold on that view, so don't go throwing that around. I'm just tellin' you one view of the sports conception.

Now the mags like Insdie Kung Fu Mag, which I buy when ever I get the chance, are correct to say that compulsary Wu Shu is used for sport and demonstrations. However, Jet Li has stated that he also studied internal and external systems that were of pratical use. Even in the demonstrations, the moves and techniques used were based from actual classical teachings. So they had to learn pratical techniques to supplement their training and eventually augment them for demonstration purposes.

Now what is Wu Shu and what is Kung Fu? Another tricky avenue to navigate through. Now even as I'm explaining it to you, I have to think hard about it myself.

Wu Shu (The non-performane veriety) is, for me, the traditional teachings from either the northern or Southern temples that employ numerous systems such as the 5 animals systems(Eagle, Snake, Leopard, Crane, and Monkey), T'ien Shan Pai(the system that I studied), along with other systems that are too many to remember off hand. The training methods derive from the methods from the temple and so do the philosophies of each system.

Here's an example of how I'd classify Wu Shu. The teachings that still follow the general classical teachings from the temple. Now I didn't carry water buckets up 200 steps, bunny hop up a mountain, thrust my fingers into hot rocks, sit in a horse stance for 30 miutes or anything like that, although that would have been sweeeeet to do, the techniques and philosophy of the system was still relatively unchanged. Now of course over the span of time some deviation occurs, however it is my personal belief that Shaolin Wu Shu(speaking only of my system) still has close ties with the temple teachings and beliefs. Hell, in the current issue of Indise Kung Fu Magazine there's a feature on the T'ien Shan Pai system and there's even a mention where it's refered to as Wu Shu. I don't know when the book stores pull issues out of circulation for next month's issues, so I'd pick up that issue a.s.a.p.! So Those who say that Shaolin Wu Shu is different that the actual tepmple pratices are right, but I still wouldn't call it anything else other than Wu Shu.

Kung Fu Now let it be known that monks that left the temples went back to their native villages and provences and passed on the teaching of Shaolin. Eventualy those monks became teachers and they(I have no I idea how) begen to create their own personal systems. And with that they of course passed on their teachings. If you hear of familly systems, systems named after provinces, towns, or other designations, they rely their teachings from teachings passed down from those who learned from the monks who left the temple. Now here's the tricky thing about Kung Fu as I see it. I would regard kung fu as to the teachings that are not directly lineaged to the Temple, although they may have been ages ago. Styles such as Hung Gar, Lau Gar, Choy Li Fut, Wing Chun, Fut Gar, and hundreds more are considered kung fu systems. I would chalk it up to lineage.

Here's an example of how I'd classify kung fu. Say a monks leaves the temple and goe to a province to live out his/her life and then teaches students the teachings of the temple. Now let's say over the years and through many generations the style is still being taught, but it has lost some of the aspects of the classical teaching for mare contemporary teachings. Perhaps one practitionaer has studied another system and choose to incorporate some of that system into theirs, thus changing its make up. Now it can still hold the fundamentals from the classical methods, but clearly it has expanded it's structure. This is my example of a kung Fu style.

exhails

Damn! Your question made me work! Hope it helps!

Oh! Is there a major difference betewwn Wu Shu and Kung Fu? Eeeeeeeeeeeh... I'd say yes in the realm of teachings and appearance. There are hundreds of systems that are very distinct, however if you were to look at the blocking, strikes, and movements, you'd see that it's not entirely different from Wu Shu.

I'm Ghost!

Ghost Dragon

Thanks for the explanation. I remember reading something a while back on a site about Shaolin kung fu that the wushu that is currently taught at the restored Shaolin temples isn't based on Shaolin teachings, but I think I also read somewhere else that some of the oldest Shaolin teachings are the basis for wushu. So it had me kinda confused. But what you said about wushu being developed to get around the ban on kung fu makes sense.

I've been a martial arts fan since I was a kid. Starting training when I was 16. I'm 24 now. I have trained in Karate, a little TKD, but I also do some self study and read up on many other arts. I have always wanted to study some Chinese martial arts, but there aren't many martial arts schools in my local area. I've been out of the schools lately, but later this year I aim to get back into karate class, or whatever else happens to catch my interest.

Though I did have some martial artists on my mom's side of the family in Korea, I grew up in America and no one on my father's side of the family were into the martial arts. I was introduced to the martial arts like many other people, through movies. I've always loved watching martial arts and kung fu movies! Most of the movies, books, and video games I own revolve around martial arts.

The most influiencial and favorate martial arts actor to me would definately be, Bruce Lee. I knew who the guy was as a kid, but it wasn't until I seen 'Dragon The Bruce Lee Story' when I was 16 that I became highly interested in the man. I ordered the book, Tao of Jeet Kune Do, shortly after, which I seen in the movie, from my Century MA Supply catalog. I read the book, watched all his movies, and became a huge fan. Still am. Loved Enter the Dragon, Way of the Dragon, and to anyone else who's a Bruce Lee fan, I HIGHLY recommend watching, 'Bruce Lee: A Warrior's Journey.' This is half documentary, half movie. The movie featured was the movie Bruce Lee was working on before he passed away, which was Game of Death. However, this DVD has the movie the way it was meant to be shown, not that 1978 version with the look-a-like actor. It's 30 of non-stop Bruce Lee fighting up the pagota, wearing the yellow tracksuit that has become popular in other movies since (The Last Dragon, Kill Bill, Shaolin Soccer). After you see this film, I think you'll agree that Game of Death would most likely have been Lee's greatest movie yet. And if you're new to Bruce Lee, you'll learn a lot from the documentary portion.

Bruce Lee is my favorate martial artist, but I'm also a big fan of Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Stephen Chow, Robin Shou, and many many others. There are also those who are not as popular, at least not in the movies, that I look up to a lot. People like Jhoon Rhee, Dan Inosanto, ect.

Favorate movies, man, too many to list... To name a few though, Enter the Dragon, Mortal Kombat, The Last Dragon, Best of the Best, Fist of Legend, Sidekicks, Shaolin Soccer, Iron Monkey, and so many more. Huge fan of the genre, whether they are Hong Kong, Hollywood, whatever.

I also love martial arts shows, what few of them they are. Most get canceled way too early. Like that WB show they had last year called Black Sash. Could've been a very cool show, but it only lasted 6 episodes! I was very disappointed to have it taken off before it even got started. Of course, I liked MK Conquest. Love Kung Fu (gotta get the DVD first season boxset soon) and Kung Fu: The Legend Continues. I also loved the show WMAC Masters, which was a kids show, but it had a lot of top martial artists and good stories that taught the true morals and lessons of the martial arts. My friends and I would watch it Saturday mornings before we went outside to spar. I also love martial arts in animation, like DBZ, Rurouni Kenshin, Jackie Chan Adventures, Samurai Jack... You get the picture.

And yes, most of my video games are fighting and action games. I still haven't opened the Jet Li game, Rise to Honor, which I bought back in February. Looks so tight, but I haven't even played my PS2 in months, except for a couple weeks ago when I did play a friend in MKDA about 4 or 5 rounds.

As far as books go, I have a modest library filled with books on martial arts and eastern philosophy. And lots of magazines, Black Belt, Inside Kung Fu, TKD Times, Kung Fu Tai Chi, ect. I also have a few comics and graphic novels that I like on my bookshelf too. And yeah, I have Bruce Lee posters hanging up in my house as well. Have martial arts gear laying around here and there, like a TKD wavemaster, versaflex (still working on the splits), Total Gym, weapons, uniforms, and various other stuff.

Most of my friends are into the martial arts too, which is great. The martial arts is very important to me. I can't imagine life without the journey of the martial arts, which is why I am going to get back into martial arts classes very soon, hopefully by this summer.

I'm currently getting back in shape from my months of not training much at all. It's been a rough year for me with my dad's health, needing to be taken care of, and my aunt passing away last month, who was like a second mother to us. But I'm now back on track. This time when I get back in karate class, I'm aiming for my black belt. The karate style I took was Yoshukai, which you can learn more about at yoshukai.com. It's a good school, lots of good people there.

Anyway, nice thread you have going here! Some of you seem quite knowledgable in the arts. Ghost Dragon, your style sounds really interesting. Nice to see fellow martial artists on board.

I have to agree, it is nice to see fellow martial artists on the board.
Now for a tricky question(at least it is to me.)
What is a martial art?
Such syles as TKD,Karate,Kung Fu, and others most likely qualify as martial arts, but do such styles as Capoeira,Boxing,Muay Thay,Savate(wich,btw,is french,and means "shoe" or "kick" in slang)qualify as martial arts?
That question has been bothering me for a while now, and i was hoping to get some kinda answer from you guys.
About Bruce Lee, i just remembered a funny story about him, a true story.
During the shooting of his first martial arts movie, Big Boss, he quickly became known around the set as "Bruce 3kicks",or something like that. This was NOT a compliment, and refered mockingly to the fact that he would only kick 3 times with one same leg at a time. The director(i'm not really sure about technical movie terms, so correct me if i'm wrong) even wanted Bruce Lee out of the movie alltogether. Raymond Chow himself
came down to the set to adress this matter. After having watched some of the already filmed footage,and talking a little with Bruce Lee, the issue was adressed by firing the director...
I got this from watching a documentary about martial arts movies called "The Art of action", wich was presented by Samuel L. Jackson.( As seen in Pulp Fiction,51rst state,Shaft,Long kiss Goodnight,amongst others...

And here is another question that also has been on my mind for a while:
While i know that a student of Karate is called a Karateka, and boxing-boxer, i wonder what terms are used to refer to students of other martial arts. And while i know that a teacher of Karate is refered to as Sensei, and a teacher of Chinese martial arts is refered to as Sifu(i think...) i wonder what terms are used in other martial arts.

And to add to my list of favorite martial arts actors, Collin Chou(Seraph, from Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions.)

Cyborg_wolf Wrote: I have to agree, it is nice to see fellow martial artists on the board. Now for a tricky question(at least it is to me.) What is a martial art? Such syles as TKD,Karate,Kung Fu, and others most likely qualify as martial arts, but do such styles as Capoeira,Boxing,Muay Thay,Savate(wich,btw,is french,and means "shoe" or "kick" in slang)qualify as martial arts? That question has been bothering me for a while now, and i was hoping to get some kinda answer from you guys. About Bruce Lee, i just remembered a funny story about him, a true story. During the shooting of his first martial arts movie, Big Boss, he quickly became known around the set as "Bruce 3kicks",or something like that. This was NOT a compliment, and refered mockingly to the fact that he would only kick 3 times with one same leg at a time. The director(i'm not really sure about technical movie terms, so correct me if i'm wrong) even wanted Bruce Lee out of the movie alltogether. Raymond Chow himself came down to the set to adress this matter. After having watched some of the already filmed footage,and talking a little with Bruce Lee, the issue was adressed by firing the director... I got this from watching a documentary about martial arts movies called "The Art of action", wich was presented by Samuel L. Jackson.( As seen in Pulp Fiction,51rst state,Shaft,Long kiss Goodnight,amongst others... And here is another question that also has been on my mind for a while: While i know that a student of Karate is called a Karateka, and boxing-boxer, i wonder what terms are used to refer to students of other martial arts. And while i know that a teacher of Karate is refered to as Sensei, and a teacher of Chinese martial arts is refered to as Sifu(i think...) i wonder what terms are used in other martial arts. And to add to my list of favorite martial arts actors, Collin Chou(Seraph, from Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions.)

Well, to me, for something to be called "martial art," it must be a system of totality. By that, I mean it must be something that is pursued with the total being in mind. Otherwise, it's nothing more than a sport or dance. Know what I mean? I remember Jhoon Rhee once said, "A martial artist without philosophy is nothing but a street fighter." To be a complete martial artist, the pursuit has to be something that applies your total being.

Boxing can be a martial art, and so can wrestling or fencing... it all depends on the practitioner in my humble opinion. If you limit it to only it's physical aspect, then it simply becomes a game.

I haven't seen The Art of Action DVD yet, Cyborg_Wolf. I did buy it for a friend though as a gift though, and told him to let me borrow it someday. I never heard that story about Bruce Lee and that happening on the set of The Big Boss. Funny story though.

Cyborg_wolf Wrote: What is a martial art?
Such syles as TKD,Karate,Kung Fu, and others most likely qualify as martial arts, but do such styles as Capoeira,Boxing,Muay Thay,Savate(wich,btw,is french,and means "shoe" or "kick" in slang)qualify as martial arts? That question has been bothering me for a while now, and i was hoping to get some kinda answer from you guys.... And here is another question that also has been on my mind for a while: While i know that a student of Karate is called a Karateka, and boxing-boxer, i wonder what terms are used to refer to students of other martial arts. And while i know that a teacher of Karate is refered to as Sensei, and a teacher of Chinese martial arts is refered to as Sifu(i think...) i wonder what terms are used in other martial arts... And to add to my list of favorite martial arts actors, Collin Chou(Seraph, from Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions.)

Ni hao peeps!

First, I have to go with Jason_Rainwater's definition. It's pretty much as simple as you can get to defining a martial art. Every martial arts has a design that must be carried thorugh in a this way. It must be thought out through a system of methods that allows the practitioner to no only react to a situation, but to react to it accordingly. Sure if some slapass wanted to do me harm, of course I would have no problem defending myself. However, if he's 230lbs of muscle, I know I can't stand toe to toe with him. The methodology of strategy and application without effort is the goal. To follow that within the basic principles of martial arts is to be a martial artist and it also can define the art itself.

These are just a few terms I found on www.martialinfo.com .

"Lakan": The male black belt rank in the Filipino art of arnis.

"Aite": Term used for an opponent in a match or contest. Also called a partner or adversary.

"Au": Japanese term for facing and encountering an opponent in competition.

"Shiai": A Japanese term meaning 'contest' or 'competition'.

"Sifu": A Cantonese term meaning 'master'.

"Karateka": A Japanese term meaning 'people who practice Karate'. Literally 'karate men'.

"Ki": A Japanese term meaning 'energy', 'life-force' or 'vital essence'. Ki is the Japanese transliteration of the Chinese word chi.

"Kup": In taekwon-do, the eight grades of ranking before the black belt, comparable to the Japanese kyu. The lowest kup, that of a beginner, is eighth kup.

"Kodansha": A high-ranking Judo black belt of fifth degree and above.

There's a glossary page that you can find a link to on the main page.

And I'm saying that Donnie Yen is just badass!! Check out his site and download the animation someone did of him. Pretty sweet!

I'm Ghost!

Ghost Dragon

I am currently studying many things. Well, five actually. I take Karate, Ju-jitsu and aikido as one class during the week, and kendo and iaido during weekends. I have been doing Karate/jujitsu/aikido for three years now, and kendo and iaido for one.

ghostdragon Wrote: Oh! Is there a major difference betewwn Wu Shu and Kung Fu? Eeeeeeeeeeeh... I'd say yes in the realm of teachings and appearance. There are hundreds of systems that are very distinct, however if you were to look at the blocking, strikes, and movements, you'd see that it's not entirely different from Wu Shu.

Oh yea, that's another thing I've always wondered about kung fu, and martial arts in general. I know that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of styles of kung fu. I find it hard to imagine that there can be so many styles that actually have clear distinctions from each other. I mean, I know some styles, like the animal styles, and drunken kung fu, would look very unique, but would someone who isn't very knowledgable about kung fu be able to distinguish, say, wing chun from long fist, or hung gar, or choy li fut? Are there any major differences in the basic kicks and punches, or is it just in the stances, theories, or strategies, or just the sequences of the forms or katas?

I've been practicing Goju-Ryu style Karate for almost 3 years. I'm currently a Brown belt.

Well, Deadlywarrior, it sure seems you have a busy schedule . Thanks for the info, Ghostdragon, it helped. While i'm at it, where could i get a copy of the book, The tao of Jeet Kune Do? do i have to get on ebay? I'd really like to get around to read that book.

Could anyone tell me who portrayed Kung Lao in the tv show, Mortal Kombat conquest? Is that guy hispanic? Just wondering.