Avatar
.
04/22/2013 10:31 PM (UTC)
0
I have here a first glimpse of the film X-Men: Days of Future Past.

Halle Barry reprises her role as Storm in the film, and unfortunately, with no mohawk and no long hair. sad

Avatar
Zentile
04/23/2013 11:57 PM (UTC)
0
Hell yes, X-Men Legends II Rise of Apocalypse was fucking terrific, I would buy it in a split second if they released it on PSN.
I would prefer X-Men Legends III though. Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 was complete garbage compared to Legends II.
Avatar
TomTaz
Avatar
About Me

"Retirement my ass!"

04/24/2013 01:26 AM (UTC)
0
I used to love the X-men. Was always my favorite comic. Then... they turned around and killed Nightcrawler. That kind of left my feelings on the X-men stuck on sour.

With all the new characters they've brought into this series over the years... all of the cannon fodder just hanging around... and they had to kill Kurt. Then further add insult to injury by bringing over that jerk from the AOA who is nothing at all like Nightcrawler. If they wanted REAL shock value... they should have killed Wolverine permanently. But no, I'm sure that concept was never even up for discussion.

Ok, rant aside:

I still do love the X-men, I do. I just don't have any other favorites. Not like the Elf. I'm still waiting for them to do that predictable comic universe VS death thing and bring him back.
Avatar
.
04/24/2013 02:02 AM (UTC)
0
I know the feel, man.

I was pissed when Jubilee became a vampire; it felt as if Jubilee herself was no longer a part of the franchise.

As for Nightcrawler, I've always had a special place for him in my X-Men heart. I'm not a big fan of teleportation, but he makes it seem like the best power ever. Especially, I love his kindness and devotion to those he cares for. I also love using him in X-Men Legends II. grin

Avatar
Zentile
04/24/2013 01:17 PM (UTC)
0
Nightcrawler will come back to life eventually. Nobody ever really dies in comics.
Avatar
.
04/24/2013 04:40 PM (UTC)
0
Zentile Wrote:
Nightcrawler will come back to life eventually. Nobody ever really dies in comics.


Destiny is still dead, sadly.

She is still among my favorite X-Men characters, due to her highly powerful precognition and her crossbow capabilities. I also love her because she was Mystique's one true love. Yeah! Fuck you, Sabertooth!
Avatar
Kamionero
04/26/2013 07:42 AM (UTC)
0
Riyakou Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:
Nightcrawler will come back to life eventually. Nobody ever really dies in comics.


Destiny is still dead, sadly.

She is still among my favorite X-Men characters, due to her highly powerful precognition and her crossbow capabilities. I also love her because she was Mystique's one true love. Yeah! Fuck you, Sabertooth!


She did come back during Necrosha. She will be eventually be back again... because everyone fucking loves Eye-reen.
Not to mention the whole "Mystique morphed a peen and got her preggers" story.

Nightcrawler's death was just so... gimmicky tho. Felt like a stunt to sell the damn Decimation storyline which was not that interesting.

Avatar
Spider804
04/26/2013 10:39 PM (UTC)
0
I'm sure Kurt will be back eventually. Unless your name is Gwen Stacy or Uncle Ben, you ain't coming back.
Avatar
Zentile
05/06/2013 06:35 AM (UTC)
0
Avatar
.
05/07/2013 12:30 AM (UTC)
0
^^^^ Freakin' Shadowcat! grin

I so can't wait for this movie. I'm really hoping it caters to the comics, especially since it's based on one of the most well-known storylines in the series.
Avatar
Zentile
05/07/2013 01:18 PM (UTC)
0
I doubt it will make much to do with the original Days of Future Past story.

In other news, James Marsden has been spotted with Halle Berry in Montereal. Is Cyclops returning after all?
Avatar
.
05/07/2013 01:25 PM (UTC)
0
Zentile Wrote:
I doubt it will make much to do with the original Days of Future Past story.

In other news, James Marsden has been spotted with Halle Berry in Montereal. Is Cyclops returning after all?


Maybe he just decided to tag along. I dunno...

Considering Cyclops and Jean Grey both died in the last film, I don't see either coming back, even despite Jean Grey's ability of regeneration. But who knows? We may get a surprise cameo.




I wish they'd bring back Nightcrawler.
Avatar
Spider804
05/07/2013 03:36 PM (UTC)
0
Jean blew Xavier apart in the Last Stand, and he's in this movie. Singer has said he's probably gonna try and fix some of the mistakes from the previous movies, which probably means undoing some of the deaths. If they are bringing Scott back, I pray to Shiva they make him a badass this time instead of whiny emo bitch to Wolverine's spotlight hogging.
Avatar
.
05/07/2013 08:30 PM (UTC)
0
Spider804 Wrote:
Jean blew Xavier apart in the Last Stand, and he's in this movie...


If you go beyond the credits of the film, you'll see a scene where Xavier is found to have transferred his mind and lifeforce into the body of his comatose twin brother (twin sister in the comics).

Xavier never died.
Avatar
RazorsEdge701
05/07/2013 09:15 PM (UTC)
0
I've also read Singer saying things that suggest the return of Scott and Jean, using the time travel nature of the plot to undo or ignore X3.
Avatar
Spider804
05/07/2013 10:39 PM (UTC)
0
Riyakou Wrote:
Spider804 Wrote:
Jean blew Xavier apart in the Last Stand, and he's in this movie...


If you go beyond the credits of the film, you'll see a scene where Xavier is found to have transferred his mind and lifeforce into the body of his comatose twin brother (twin sister in the comics).

Xavier never died.

Yeah, forgot about that.
In my defense, most of that movie blew chunks.
Avatar
Zentile
05/08/2013 01:28 AM (UTC)
0
He didn't transfer to his twin brother, that's bullshit. It was some random dude, not a twin at all.
Avatar
.
05/08/2013 02:03 AM (UTC)
0
Zentile Wrote:
He didn't transfer to his twin brother, that's bullshit. It was some random dude, not a twin at all.


According to the commentary on the DVD, that's how they had it.

The director stated they didn't want to have Xavier transfer to a sister in the film because it didn't seem right visually. So, they turned the sister into a brother.
Avatar
RazorsEdge701
05/08/2013 08:16 AM (UTC)
0
Riyakou Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:
He didn't transfer to his twin brother, that's bullshit. It was some random dude, not a twin at all.


According to the commentary on the DVD, that's how they had it.

The director stated they didn't want to have Xavier transfer to a sister in the film because it didn't seem right visually. So, they turned the sister into a brother.


This is true. They never mention who coma guy is in the movie itself, but they do in fact say "it's his twin brother" in the commentary, and their reason for doing it was to justify him speaking with Patrick's voice when he wakes up, because, y'know, realistically a possessed person would not talk with the voice of the person possessing them, their vocal chords wouldn't change to make those sounds...
Avatar
Zentile
05/08/2013 05:49 PM (UTC)
0
Riyakou Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:
He didn't transfer to his twin brother, that's bullshit. It was some random dude, not a twin at all.


According to the commentary on the DVD, that's how they had it.

The director stated they didn't want to have Xavier transfer to a sister in the film because it didn't seem right visually. So, they turned the sister into a brother.


That may very well be true. But audio commentary on a DVD doesn't make it a fact within the movieverse. During the movie, Xavier talks about the coma patient and never mentions him as his twin brother. In First Class, we see Xavier as a child and young adult and never do we get a reference to a twin brother.

As it stands, the guy in the coma is NOT Xavier's brother.
Avatar
.
05/08/2013 07:54 PM (UTC)
0
Zentile Wrote:
Riyakou Wrote:
Zentile Wrote:
He didn't transfer to his twin brother, that's bullshit. It was some random dude, not a twin at all.


According to the commentary on the DVD, that's how they had it.

The director stated they didn't want to have Xavier transfer to a sister in the film because it didn't seem right visually. So, they turned the sister into a brother.


That may very well be true. But audio commentary on a DVD doesn't make it a fact within the movieverse. During the movie, Xavier talks about the coma patient and never mentions him as his twin brother. In First Class, we see Xavier as a child and young adult and never do we get a reference to a twin brother.

As it stands, the guy in the coma is NOT Xavier's brother.


Mystique never mentioned Nightcrawler was her son; that doesn't mean he isn't.

Dude, you can't change what the makers of the film put in place. What they say goes. Just accept it.

Besides, Xavier does have a twin, be it a sister.
Avatar
Zentile
05/09/2013 12:46 AM (UTC)
0
..What? Watch every X-Men movie. Xavier doesn't have a twin in the movies. Period. DVD Commentary is NOT part of the movie.

I know Xavier had a twin sister, I've been reading X-Men for years, thank you very much. A sister that he killed while they were still fetuses and then later returned as an advanced form of mutant.

Not a comatose person who Xavier transfers his mind into. It's so entirely different that it's not even worth bringing up for this "debate".

Speaking of Nightcrawler; yes, as far as I can tell from the movies, he's not Mystique's son. Why would he be?
He is in the comics. Not in the movies (So far).
Avatar
.
05/09/2013 01:27 AM (UTC)
0
Zentile Wrote:
..What? Watch every X-Men movie. Xavier doesn't have a twin in the movies. Period. DVD Commentary is NOT part of the movie.

I know Xavier had a twin sister, I've been reading X-Men for years, thank you very much. A sister that he killed while they were still fetuses and then later returned as an advanced form of mutant.

Not a comatose person who Xavier transfers his mind into. It's so entirely different that it's not even worth bringing up for this "debate".

Speaking of Nightcrawler; yes, as far as I can tell from the movies, he's not Mystique's son. Why would he be?
He is in the comics. Not in the movies (So far).


I honestly cannot believe you actually feel you can dictate what does and does not apply to a movie you did not create.

If the makers of the X-Men: The Last Stand say the comatose man is Xavier's brother, then that's who he is. Nothing you say can ever change that. Ever. It does not matter how you feel or how you see things, man. It's not your movie; it's not your creation.

And for the record, the commentary of a DVD is meant to supply the viewer with information not mentioned or that cannot be mentioned in a film. It is a critical piece of any film, which is why it is often the one of the primarily advertised features of a DVD.

In any sense, the comatose guy is Xavier's brother, and it's not up to you to decide otherwise. If you don't like it, talk to Brett Ratner.
Avatar
Zentile
05/09/2013 03:19 PM (UTC)
0

Riyakou Wrote:
I honestly cannot believe you actually feel you can dictate what does and does not apply to a movie you did not create.
Cut the bullshit, smartass. That's absolutely not what I'm saying at all. If you want to debate this, fine, but don't start putting words in my mouth.
This is nuts. It has nothing to do with my opinion or my view or what I want.
If you must know, I'd much rather it be Xavier's twin brother. It would be a lot less dumb than Xavier all of a sudden being in a body that doesn't look like Patrick Stewart.

Having said that, like you said, my opinion doesn't matter. DVD Commentary is NOT part of the movie. It's not. And a movie maker's intention also means FUCK ALL. Unless it's in the movie, IT'S NOT IN THE MOVIE.

If you watch X-Men 3 and it doesn't tell you that the comatose man is Xavier's twin brother, then it's not his twin brother. It may have been their intention, but it's factually not in the movie. Hell for all I know they bring that up in commentary as a joke; I'm not even going to check because it really doesn't matter whether they were joking or being dead serious. DVD commentary is not movie canon.

The END RESULT is the real movie, not the many intentions in the movie makers' minds. Ratner may have meant for a thousand different things that didn't end up on screen. If they didn't end up on screen, they're not in the movie, and it's not real.

Maybe in Days of Future Past or The Wolverine they'll come out and say it. Xavier transferred his mind into his comatose twin brother. Only then will it be reality. Meanwhile, it's just an idea that never made it to the final film.

Do you only watch movies with DVD commentary on? Because if I believed that only the DVD commentary version is the official version with all the facts, I wouldn't watch the regular audio version.
Avatar
.
05/09/2013 05:56 PM (UTC)
0
Dude, you are pathetic.

Ratner never stated any intentions; he stated that the comatose man is Xavier's twin brother.

There are many aspects of a film that aren't mentioned in the film, and for various reasons. Maybe if you actually listen to The Last Stand's commentary, you just might find out why.

In any sense, I'm done with this dispute, we're ruining the thread with our spatting. We shouldn't have dragged this out in the first place. If you feel you should state more, I ask you do so via IM.



Anyhoo, I've been seriously thinking about Legion, who happens to be my namesake, and his story. I've always felt Legion Quest would make an excellent addition to the X-Men film series, especially since it ties into the Age of Apocalypse.
Download on the App StoreGet it on Google Play
© 1998-2024 Shadow Knight Media, LLC. All rights reserved. Read our Privacy Policy.
Mortal Kombat, the dragon logo and all character names are trademarks and copyright of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.