Like he said, what point of having "career threatening" match when HHH doesn't wrestle any more in first place.

Agree with you about heel turn about Kofi but I don't think it would hurt him if they do it. Plus that another problem with WWE, they haven't got got lot of heels and heels they got are no threat apart from CM Punk

I think something that's easily forgotten/overlooked is the emphasis made in one of the first Triple H promos. He said he left and instantly regretted it. He got home and quickly realized he still had the fire in his gut. He's even gone so far as to literally say (using multiple nicknames to emphasise the point): he's back!

The risk for all of us is to have assumed he isn't back and that it was just hyperbole for the purposes of setting up a feature Wrestlemania match. I'm not gonna say it's brilliant or entirely necessary, but they've done a decent enough job to have a point and actually keep it pretty simple: Triple H is back, he wants revenge, and he wants to wrestle.

If nothing else, it gives Triple H stakes that he might not have had.
A grudge match over the broken arm and the Vince injury probably would've been enough, but to go outside of my earlier point, it also wouldn't have had a lot of stakes for a Triple H who probably isn't going to be a regular competitor. Now he isn't just the vengeful force acting upon Lesnar -- he's got something to lose.

I'm grateful for what I can get, these days. There's a logical story, a couple of interesting guys in it, and a match that will probably be pretty solid. I'll take it.

dude dean ambrose is probably the 2nd best heel next to punk.

look up his old charachter named john moxley

the man is amazing on the mic

That problem, he not got anything to lose. If he lose then he doesn't wrestle (which he hasn't been doing in first place apart from odd ppv) and carry on with his CEO character. Plus writers forget their own story lines like triple h conspiracy or rules like Belts must be defended every 30 days.



Oh shit, I forgot about Dean Ambrose and the shield.

Again, he loses the thing he desires the most. He's explained that.

You can make some arguments about dramatic resonance, but at the end of the day, this is a serialized character who for twenty years has been all about the wrestling. Everything on and off screen tells us his entire life is about wrestling. When he literally tells you he regrets leaving and wants nothing more than to come back -- you can take that for granted.

Which is a much more reasonable association with history than a few unrelated, bum storylines that got skipped over. They've done the work, the risk is established. No amount of cheap, hive-mind smarking undoes any of that. Belts must be defended every thirty days.. What the hell are you thinking even saying that? Groan.

Even if he loses then chances are that he'll come back for another match anyway. That what I meant when I say writers forget about their own story lines. If they going put anything on line then should have been his role as CEO and plus it would be nice see heel public figure like Mr McMahon and John Laurinaitis.

dean ambrose alone is one of the best heels pro wrestling has

listen to his promo work bruh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4m2tegFUcg

Dean Ambrose is the most unintentionally funny wrestler in the history of forever. Seth Rollins > Ambrose, by a wide margin.

And for the complaints about good heels in WWE, they have even fewer good faces.

only real face they have is cena. let me just say this i dont hate the man i just hate his gimmick. i just think they should bring back the vanilla ice cena because i was a fan of that.

this whole never give up marine gimmick is older than betty whites tampon

i used to be one of those guys that say turn cena heel but i think thats pretty much impossible.

you look at guys like hhh and i think man hes a great heel him as a face dosent fit him.

same with cm punk, dean ambrose ,the miz and alberto del rio

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Trips was great as a face, but he's that much better as a heel that nobody remembers or recognizes his great face work.

What's everyone opinion on the World Heavyweight Title Match? (which seems to be forgotten nowadays).

I honestly can't stand Jack Swagger and this whole 'We the People' and 'Swagger's America'. He's pathetic using the Ankle Lock (good one WWE trying to make a Kurt Angle imitator), and barely has any mic skills at all. Dolph Zolber or whatever his name is, can't stand his face, his speeches or that stupid costume.

Alberto could have so much more going for him if it wasn't for this stupid feud WWE put him in. If Alberto loses... Oh man.

P.S. just the thought of Swagger stealing the Elimination Chamber, after what a great match that was, irritates me.

I don't care one bit about the WHC match at Mania, largely because it contains two wrestlers who I don't care one bit about. ADR can't get a crowd going and has to rely on Ricardo to do it for him. Ditching the aristocrat gimmick when he turned face was kind of lame, I really would have liked to see that continue. It's unfortunate that WWE decided to put its #2 belt on a guy with zero charisma, but that's the current state of things in the watered-down PG era.

I've never liked Swagger, especially now that he has his pet hobo following him around. Colter makes a decent mouthpiece though, if only because we no longer have to suffer through Swagger's lisp week in and week out. Ankle lock is lame and the gutwrench powerbomb really should be his finish instead. He's a big guy, make him have a power finisher. I get that he has a amateur background and is technically sound, but enough of this Kurt Angle silhouette business. Swagger needs to become his own entity, both in-ring and on the stick.

To your point about the EC match - I'm glad that Mark Henry didn't win only because he was the obvious pre-match favorite, even though putting the WHC back on him to set up the Ryback feud probably would've been the better decision for ratings. Swagger winning the match actually doesn't bother me all that much, it was the finish that destroyed any enjoyment I derived from it. The EC match had been quite solid to that point, but to have it end on a rollup cheapened the entire experience and really tarnished what could've been a great conclusion. I probably would've had Jericho win the match and beat ADR at Mania, only to have Ziggler cash. I'm tired of seeing that damn briefcase and I've always been a supporter of having one face and one heel with the top belts.

the whc and smackdown brand sucks imo

as far as swagger go's he always had wrestling talent but his past gimmick sucked and i enjoy his new one alot because its ballsy on wwe's part

the guy who plays zeb coulter came up with the whole thing and wwe lets him do w/e

Arnold Schwarzenegger to induct Bruno Sammartino into the WWE Hall of Fame!


source


http://www.wwe.com/classics/wwe-hall-of-fame/who-will-induct-bruno-sammartino

RAW's little "Hall of Fame Panel" wasn't anything different than what we already knew. I'm tired of WWE just reusing the same stuff over and over. Seing a Rock Bottom, though, was awesome.

And seeing the good WWE Classics.

and Stephanie to induct Trish! it's win win all around

Okay, guys. Weekend's nearly here. Who do you like?

John Cena
Brock Lesnar
The Undertaker
Alberto Del Rio
Orton, Sheamus & Big Show
Ryback
Kane & Bryan Danielson
Fandango
Rhodes, Sandow & The Bellas
Wade Barrett
Antonio Cesaro (pre-show?)

One of the tougher Manias to pick in recent memory, if you ask me.

Could see a third Helmsley/Lesnar match (another Extreme Rules Lesnar feature), giving Triple H the win at Mania. Could see Jericho defending the sanctity of Mania, instead of having the new guy get a massive win. Could see Tons of Funk giving the kids something to cheer early. Maybe The Shield take it to keep them going strong? Madness!

What you said, except I've got triple h going over lesnar. Although, seeing the tale weaved by Paul heyman about triple h become a bitter suit like his father in law would be interesting to see play out.

There's my picks

Here my choice for Wresltmania

John Cena so next Wresltmania will be Cena/Rock 3 to tie it over
Brock Lesnar
The Undertaker or CM Punk (this is one is hard to pick since I can see CM Punk winning but if Undertaker got another match in him then the streak will live on for other year)
Alberto Del Rio but If Jack wins it then see Dolph Ziggler cashing in
The Shield
Ryback
Team Hell No (it only a matter of time before they lose the belt
Fandango (but it should be Chris Jericho)
Tons of Funk
Antonio Cesaro if he get match at preshow

My picks:

The Rock. It's been heavily rumored that Rock's sticking around a little longer after Mania and that upcoming house shows have him billed as champ, so I think he goes over.

Triple H. Stupid stipulation and the buildup suggests that Hunter's going over. I'm sure there will be a third meeting at SummerSlam or something.

Undertaker. Punk is taking time off after Mania so it doesn't make a lot of sense for him to win this match. Also, that piss ant doesn't deserve to end the streak.

Del Rio, Ziggler cash-in. Doesn't matter who wins this match as this will probably be my bathroom break, but after all the missed opportunities to have Ziggler cash the briefcase in, another squander here would cement him as nothing more than a transitional champ for the foreseeable future.

The Shield. Randy Orton turns heel and screws over SHAMOUS and Show, then begins a title push that people will only slightly care about simply because he's better as a heel.

Ryback. It would be monumentally stupid of WWE to put Mark Henry over in this match. Ryback needs the victory far more, as he isn't three years past the twilight of his career like Henry is.

Hell No, probably by DQ. I can't see Ziggler and Two-Move Langston going over with the titles on the line, irrelevant as they are, but a clean loss means either Ziggler gets pinned/taps then (probably) wins WHC later in the night, or Langston loses the fall in his first match and looks weaker in the process. WWE sort of booked themselves into a corner here, especially with so few promising tag teams left.

Jericho. Fandango isn't going over and no amount of convincing will get me to believe that. I'm sure Fandango will get DQ'd or something.

Brodus, Tensai, Funkadactyls. This will also be a bathroom break for me as I'd only really be watching for Sandow, but this match is basically a coin flip. Could go either way.

Pre-Show Match: Miz. It's Figure 4 Time w000000000

there is a rumor cena may lose again and then go heel
cm punk over taker because punk is now one of the top guys and taker is only a one time a year apperance.
ryback vs henry will be a bore fest

shield vs sheamus orton and show i think itll be sheild

hell no will win

fandango will win since jericho has a fozzy gig and he has a part time deal with wwe
i think hhh will win since brock is on the wwe payback ppv poster so

Oh snap! Forgot all about this match!

I predict Barrett via moves that don't involve bareknuckle boxing.

Cena already turn heel

Cena's Heel Turn