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07/10/2007 08:29 PM (UTC)
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dinobot or the dinobots along with Soundwave will be in the next one


I kind of thought of Frenzy as a fill in for soundwave in this movie. As for the Dinobots, as cool as it would be I don't see it happening. I could defnetly see the Contrsuctacons, and hotrod showing up in the next movie though.

Megatron will most likely be in the next movie. I thought if you watch some of the scenes after the credits they show starscream flying around still. I'm thinking the next movie will probably go something like this: starscream pulls megatron out of the water, trys to flye him back to Cybertron for repairs (like the animated movie), but then decideds to ditch him in which case megatron runs into Unicron (probably not going to happen but just wishing right now), in which case Megatron gets transforformed into Galvatron.

Just a question though. Can anyone explain to me exactly how Megatron dies? I really didn't get that scene one bit. He was after the allspark, and tried to suck it into his cheast while Sam was trying to keep it from him, then Megatron just ups's and dies from it confused? Am I missing something in that?



Just a few notes, interesting points just want to address a few things.

In the animated movie way back, Starscream didn't repair Megatron he betrayed him but kicking him out into space when he was weakened after the battle with Optimus Prime. Then Megatron winded up on Unicron, Unicron made Megatron an offer to repair him and upgrade his body to become Galvatron to destroy the Matrix for Unicron which was at this point transferred from Primes body since he died to Ultra Magnus's body.

Then once Galvatron aka really Megatron later on found Starscream just as he was about to take role of Leader of the Decepticons Galvatron(really Megatron) literally destroyed StarScream. He literall vaporized him lol.

Anyway, to answer your question on the new movie:

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Optimus felt he was losing or unsure if he could defeate Megatron in Battle, he was wounded pretty bad so he told Sam if I can't defeat Megatron to put the cube-all spark into Primes chest the matrix/spark in primes chest would destroy it along with killing the host in the process, avoiding Megatron to gain ultimate power and conquer the universe. Now, shortly after that Megatron was going after Sam with Prime knocked down he wasn't in a position to help him, Sam had the cube aka all spark and put it into Megatron's chest instantly killing him, they later took all the dead decepticons into a spot in the ocean on earth that had the most amount of pressure therefore once they drop the dead decepticons the ocean will crush any remains for good. Prime told Sam that he was in his debt.
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07/10/2007 11:48 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
Kabal20 Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
>Also, rumor has it that either
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dinobot or the dinobots along with Soundwave will be in the next one


I kind of thought of Frenzy as a fill in for soundwave in this movie. As for the Dinobots, as cool as it would be I don't see it happening. I could defnetly see the Contrsuctacons, and hotrod showing up in the next movie though.

Megatron will most likely be in the next movie. I thought if you watch some of the scenes after the credits they show starscream flying around still. I'm thinking the next movie will probably go something like this: starscream pulls megatron out of the water, trys to flye him back to Cybertron for repairs (like the animated movie), but then decideds to ditch him in which case megatron runs into Unicron (probably not going to happen but just wishing right now), in which case Megatron gets transforformed into Galvatron.

Just a question though. Can anyone explain to me exactly how Megatron dies? I really didn't get that scene one bit. He was after the allspark, and tried to suck it into his cheast while Sam was trying to keep it from him, then Megatron just ups's and dies from it confused? Am I missing something in that?



Just a few notes, interesting points just want to address a few things.

In the animated movie way back, Starscream didn't repair Megatron he betrayed him but kicking him out into space when he was weakened after the battle with Optimus Prime. Then Megatron winded up on Unicron, Unicron made Megatron an offer to repair him and upgrade his body to become Galvatron to destroy the Matrix for Unicron which was at this point transferred from Primes body since he died to Ultra Magnus's body.

Then once Galvatron aka really Megatron later on found Starscream just as he was about to take role of Leader of the Decepticons Galvatron(really Megatron) literally destroyed StarScream. He literall vaporized him lol.

Anyway, to answer your question on the new movie:

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Optimus felt he was losing or unsure if he could defeate Megatron in Battle, he was wounded pretty bad so he told Sam if I can't defeat Megatron to put the cube-all spark into Primes chest the matrix/spark in primes chest would destroy it along with killing the host in the process, avoiding Megatron to gain ultimate power and conquer the universe. Now, shortly after that Megatron was going after Sam with Prime knocked down he wasn't in a position to help him, Sam had the cube aka all spark and put it into Megatron's chest instantly killing him, they later took all the dead decepticons into a spot in the ocean on earth that had the most amount of pressure therefore once they drop the dead decepticons the ocean will crush any remains for good. Prime told Sam that he was in his debt.


Still dude, like I said:

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Even though they did "dump" the bodies into the Ocean, I say don't count old Megatron out yet! I say this, cause I kinda like the character, and it would be pretty gay, to just off him like that.
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07/11/2007 01:15 AM (UTC)
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I expect Megatron to return, and I also expect the reason (as well as a major plot point for the new movie) may revolve around the fact he now wields the power of the Allspark.

I did find it quite dumb that Prime said he would sacrifice himself with the Allspark, seeing as how that would leave Megatron and the others almost free reign over the Earth, and the remaining Autobots, with no leader and no real competition vs. Megs, would just get wiped out and earth would be taken over. I doubt the humans with their high powered weapons alone would be able to stop him completely.
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07/11/2007 01:23 AM (UTC)
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Here's my theory on the sequel of TRANSFORMERS: It says that Megatron crash landed on Earth thousands of years ago. However, it doesn't tell you when the other Decepticons arrived. Here's where my theory comes in. They said that they the government dumbed Megatron, Destructor, and Blackout into the Lorenchean Abyss which is seven miles below sea level. That's considered a litteral dead zone on the Earth. What if, say the other Decepticons had Nemesis already positioned there? If Megatron's body does fall that far, it could be salvaged and then brought back as a set up for the next movie.
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07/11/2007 08:13 AM (UTC)
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No matter what happens.
I want you to know...
I'm glad I got in that car with you.


LOL.
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TheMkGeek
07/11/2007 06:39 PM (UTC)
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SmokeNc-017 Wrote:
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Here's my theory on the sequel of TRANSFORMERS: It says that Megatron crash landed on Earth thousands of years ago. However, it doesn't tell you when the other Decepticons arrived. Here's where my theory comes in. They said that they the government dumbed Megatron, Destructor, and Blackout into the Lorenchean Abyss which is seven miles below sea level. That's considered a litteral dead zone on the Earth. What if, say the other Decepticons had Nemesis already positioned there? If Megatron's body does fall that far, it could be salvaged and then brought back as a set up for the next movie.


That's good, but there was no mention of ships from either side, they just crashlanded in what looked like asteroids.
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ShaolinChuan
07/11/2007 11:30 PM (UTC)
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Anyone got the game based off the movie or played it yet?

I'm reading mixed reviews, both good and bad.... but since I'm a fan and like what I see from player videos/ review videos, I think I might buy it.
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ShingoEX
07/12/2007 01:34 AM (UTC)
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The game is a bit frustrating and gets pretty hard in some points, but overall, it's ok.

I still think the PS2 game that came out a couple of years back is the best of the TF games. The movie version is easily 2nd.

Of course, pretty much all the other ones sucked.
As i said before Megan Fox is fuck hot.

So as long is she keeps signing on for sequels im gonna be watching them no matter whattongue
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07/12/2007 01:47 PM (UTC)
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As i said before Megan Fox is fuck hot.

So as long is she keeps signing on for sequels im gonna be watching them no matter whattongue


Well, at least you're not biased! As for the game, ain't got it yet, but I'm thinking of getting it for PSP, and I have the other Transformers game which came out for PS2.
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07/12/2007 08:26 PM (UTC)
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I'm sad with the lack of explanation for...
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why Bumblebee, though his voice box damaged by Megatron, can't seem to get it repaired for a period that spans thousands of years. A surely a voice box can't be that complicated to repair considering they are a race of beings that can naturally change their shape without any problems to adapt to hostile surroundings, and with that, instantaneously develop built-in weapons upon transformation, and can survive with their heads not attached to their bodies (Frenzy).
Also, the fact that Megatron has been frozen on Earth for thousands of years, MIA for millennia, is still hailed as a leader by the Decepticons. Why don't we see Starscream take command of the Decepitcons while Megatron's frozen? In fact, why is he given so little screen-time and even less dialogue?
With that in mind, I hated how there was so little development on the personalities of the majority of the Decepticons themselves, especially since two of them just pop out of nowhere in the film, and Scorponoch is never even introduced by name. I never even heard of Black-Out, Barricade, or Bonecrusher.

It was a good film overall, but as you can see, I had some issues with it.
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TheMkGeek
07/12/2007 09:22 PM (UTC)
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Maybe all will be revealed next movie?! confused
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07/12/2007 09:36 PM (UTC)
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I,unfortunately,did not see it yet.

*Starts to cry in the corner and thinking about killing someone*

By the way,is the game good?
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07/13/2007 02:59 AM (UTC)
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To Jerrod: I understand what you're saying. It's even more baffling when
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Bumblebee's voice box is repaired in the end. I think I did hear some people say it had to do with the AllSpark cube. I don't know. It still came off rather weird to me. As for why Starscream didn't take command of the Decepticons, perhaps he was afraid of just how loyal the other Decepticons are towards Megatron. There really isn't much to characters like Brawl (erroneous called Devastator in the movie), who is very much like his G1 counterpart, except not specifically identified as a Combaticon in the movie.
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07/13/2007 06:45 PM (UTC)
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To MK geek

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yeah man I'm sure he'll come back some how, it just better be a pretty good reason since. Perhaps his spark will transfer into another body? I'm liking that idea because I can't see how his old body can survive that, a limb missing, burnt out after years of being frozen..I mean what is he super Megatron? lol He'll be back for sure, I just hope they make it interesting and not just Megatron's evil brought him back or some over dramatic shit lol



As for the bumblebee point on the voicebox, it is an interesting concept on how they couldn't repair him but then again the comic said that Megatron did it during battle sometime, perhaps since another cybertronian did it that's why it took so long to heal? Anyway, he got his voice back a little bit in the end probably had something to do with the all spark. It shouldn't be looked upon as the "downfall" of this movie, it rocked regardless


As for Shingos point about Prime sacrificing himself and leaving Megatron to take over earth, well I disagree with you here a little bit because of A.with the all spark destroyed Megatron's power is only limited and it wouldn't be nearly as bad as if Megs would have had the all spark then forget it lol also with his 5 or 6 decepticons, you clearly saw towards the end the humans recognized the weak spots to kill them and did so, I believe the humans would eventually defeat the Decepticons. There's simply more of us and the humans aren't exactly caveman lol. Then I would agree with ya for sure, there's billions of people vs. 6 decepticons I mean that has to be taken into account.


As for the gig with not focusing enough on the decepticons that someone else said, I'll say the same thing I said before when another person brought this up. This movie HAD to revolve a lot around the humans/Transformers becoming aware of each other, learning what each other is capable of. This isn't just a war on cybertron between the autobots and decepticons, if they did that on earth the movie would have sucked seriously...


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The starscream point on why he didn't take over, well perhaps the others wouldn't listen to him or agree to that as you saw in the movie. "All hail Megatron" not Starscream, there's no way Starscream could force the other Decepticons to bow before him like Megatron can, Megs is more powerful, deadlier then Starscream and always will be. Now if you noticed towards the end, he was taking out the us jets however didn't come to Meg's aid just fled...that tells me that he has his own agenda planned out for the next movie, then you might see Starscream have a larger role but for this movie it wasn't necessary. The fans already know the megatron/starscream relationship, no need to waste time on that
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07/13/2007 10:19 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
To MK geek

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yeah man I'm sure he'll come back some how, it just better be a pretty good reason since. Perhaps his spark will transfer into another body? I'm liking that idea because I can't see how his old body can survive that, a limb missing, burnt out after years of being frozen..I mean what is he super Megatron? lol He'll be back for sure, I just hope they make it interesting and not just Megatron's evil brought him back or some over dramatic shit lol




Yeah, maybe we'll see:

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The emergance of Galvatron perhaps? Or maybe we were led to believe that was the "real Megatron" and it was in fact not the real Megatron, but a decoy perhaps? It should be interesting to see how they bring Megs back in the sequel, if there will be one



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To MK geek

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As for Shingos point about Prime sacrificing himself and leaving Megatron to take over earth, well I disagree with you here a little bit because of A.with the all spark destroyed Megatron's power is only limited and it wouldn't be nearly as bad as if Megs would have had the all spark then forget it lol also with his 5 or 6 decepticons, you clearly saw towards the end the humans recognized the weak spots to kill them and did so, I believe the humans would eventually defeat the Decepticons. There's simply more of us and the humans aren't exactly caveman lol. Then I would agree with ya for sure, there's billions of people vs. 6 decepticons I mean that has to be taken into account.




See that would be a good arguement if not for one flaw:

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Perhaps some humans would aid the Decipticons in defeating the Autobots. Cause not all Humans are trustworthy, as was evident throughout the movie, so, yes, Humans did outnumber the Decepticons quite significantly, but there's also the fact that there may be more Decepticons scattered in the universe willing to come to Earth and aid their breathren in defeating the remaining Autobots and destroying the humans. Never know, there's still a Cybertron, and from what I got from the movie, it's under Decepticon rule kinda like in the 80s movie


It will be interesting to see how the producers will hopefully more fully explore the background of the Transformers if there is in fact a sequel.
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ShingoEX
07/14/2007 12:11 AM (UTC)
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There is no "if" when it comes to a sequel. It was already greenlit before the movie was released.

Technically, it's already in very early pre-production.
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07/14/2007 01:47 AM (UTC)
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Regarding Bumblebee's voicebox:
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Yes, the prequel comic shows Megatron crushing his voicebox, yet the toy bios say differently.

The Sector 7 exclusive figure of Hardtop has a bio that claims it was a shot from his sniper rifle that damaged BB voice.

Odd.
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07/14/2007 06:35 PM (UTC)
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I want you to know...
I'm glad I got in that car with you.


LOL.


I'm shocked that nobody else found that funny.

sad
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mkflegend
07/15/2007 01:14 AM (UTC)
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To shingo, yes man that is very odd lol. Wonder which is canon and which isn't?

To MKGeek, there's not really a flaw other then the possibility of the humans siding with the Decepticons but those would be stupid humans. Why? Because if that happened what do you think the decepticons would do after the humans that helped them finished their job? They would be of no more use to the decepticons=kill the remaining humans.

Afterall, the bad guy always betrays someone and that's the decepticons for you.glasses


I do believe though that more humans would side with the autobots IMHO.
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TheMkGeek
07/15/2007 09:23 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
To MKGeek, there's not really a flaw other then the possibility of the humans siding with the Decepticons but those would be stupid humans. Why? Because if that happened what do you think the decepticons would do after the humans that helped them finished their job? They would be of no more use to the decepticons=kill the remaining humans.

Afterall, the bad guy always betrays someone and that's the decepticons for you.glasses


I do believe though that more humans would side with the autobots IMHO.


Well, let's agree to disagree, but I do see your poing though, about the Decepticons betraying the humans, but maybe they'd keep some around for amusement, you know, as slaves.
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TheMkGeek
07/15/2007 09:25 PM (UTC)
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ShingoEX Wrote:
There is no "if" when it comes to a sequel. It was already greenlit before the movie was released.

Technically, it's already in very early pre-production.


Well, if that's true, than I am psyched for Transformers 2. Hopefully it's not long before it comes out, like next year some time, instead of '09, which would be ok, but if it's in pre-production like you said, then there should be no reason why it wouldn't come out like Fall/Winter '08.
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07/15/2007 09:53 PM (UTC)
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TheMkGeek Wrote:
ShingoEX Wrote:
There is no "if" when it comes to a sequel. It was already greenlit before the movie was released.

Technically, it's already in very early pre-production.


Well, if that's true, than I am psyched for Transformers 2. Hopefully it's not long before it comes out, like next year some time, instead of '09, which would be ok, but if it's in pre-production like you said, then there should be no reason why it wouldn't come out like Fall/Winter '08.


Hmmm... first, read my second post on this page.

Also bear in mind, the rendering for Transformers didn't take a few weeks to accomplish. I saw that there was a SHIT TON of stuff that obviously took months to do.

Even though there are MANY avenues the sequel could go towards, they'll most likely take their time. Especially where the screenplay is concerned.

And by the way, for those who've also seen Bad Boys 2...

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did anyone notice the scene towards the end of the movie where Bey borrowed gun fight in the Jamacian house from BB2?


$20 to anyone who knows what I'm talking aobut. wink


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07/15/2007 10:01 PM (UTC)
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As far as pre-production goes for the sequel, the only thing they've really done thus far is toss a few ideas around.

But it was officially given the greenlight, even before the original film launched nationally.
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07/16/2007 04:09 AM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
To MKGeek, there's not really a flaw other then the possibility of the humans siding with the Decepticons but those would be stupid humans. Why? Because if that happened what do you think the decepticons would do after the humans that helped them finished their job? They would be of no more use to the decepticons=kill the remaining humans.

Afterall, the bad guy always betrays someone and that's the decepticons for you.glasses


I do believe though that more humans would side with the autobots IMHO.


Well, let's agree to disagree, but I do see your poing though, about the Decepticons betraying the humans, but maybe they'd keep some around for amusement, you know, as slaves.



Sure man lol, of course. ^^

Yeah, the slave idea could be a possibility but I don't think this will happen anyway most likely lol but it's a good discussion to talk about none the less.

One thing in the next few movies( I heard that supposedly there are two more Transformers given the greenlight for a 3 part trilogy) we already know about the second one now for sure hehe.

But anyway, one thing I really hope to NOT see in any of the future Transformers is this..
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Optimus Primal dying like he did in the animated version, I hated that
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