This... Just this.

Only if it doesn't feature a CoD advertisement!!

If you didn't need to explain why, then you wouldn't have been having an argument with the other user. By the fact that you were arguing with him shows that what you think is common knowledge/sense; isn't.

Saying someone's idea is stupid is different than explaining to him/her why their opinion isn't correct or doesn't reflect reality. The problem is still more complicated than you made it, but hopefully this time what you said will suffice as an argument. You say things you "definitely know" without supporting them.

I suppose baby steps are in order before I expect more cohesive argumentation.

While dubiously eloquent on assuming the minds and roles of people, it doesn't display any evidence to support an inferiority complex or name calling of "piss ant" (sic).

I can say what is stupid and what isn't by just saying what's stupid and what isn't. If they find what I said was hurtful, I'm sorry, but last time I checked, this was a discussion forum, I can post whatever I please whether or not I choose to back myself up. And if you have a problem with the way I word things or explain, well then you can stop responding to me and go back contributing to the topic.

Well the term pissant means insignificant and annoying, and really his threats are obviously annoying us and he's not really a true threat; so I think Ice is justified in calling him a pissant.

As for his inferiority complex, as none of us are his attending mental health physician none of us can tell. However, it's safe to assume that a good portion of this saber rattling helps to legitimize his leadership despite his youth.



And on a personal note, Shoe, no one likes "that nitpicky guy." Icebaby may have been presumptuous to assume he's beating his chest to justify his rule out of self-esteem issues, but her theory certainly isn't implausible and in fact seems quite plausible. I know you may have been perturbed by her stating a theory as a fact, but that happens a lot. The proper way of handling it should be "Now you can't say that for sure, but I understand what you're saying."

Don't be the nitpicky guy Shoe, nobody likes that. And that's coming from someone who at one point nobody really did like.

So, you can say whatever you want however you want without needing to justify them. And if someone is hurt by it, or angered, or confused, or in disagreement, you are sorry but they had just better suck it up because of points one and two. And if anybody actually has a problem with that then they should just shut up and ignore you.

Have I surmised correctly? In effect, you are saying that you can act just like them because 'fuck you, that's why'. What a wonderful way to go through life. Never having to challenge yourself. Never having to justify anything. And if someone has an issue; I'm sorry, but fuck off. What a wonderful world that must be.

Don't let me stop you. This mad wonderland you've constructed clearly has its advantages. Instead of arguing with people who don't agree with you, how about you take your own advice and just fuck off? Wouldn't that just be grand? We could all stand in a cubicle and shout at the wall until our ear drums cave. But nobody would fight. Everyone would automatically know what's right. And we wouldn't have to think too hard on anything. We wouldn't ever need to know, or to extend a hand to help others understand. It'd be a magical place. Like an echo chamber.

Boy howdy. That sure is something.
And if you don't like what I have to say because it's too hard, or it requires you to think or care for others; just remember: I'm sorry, but fuck off.

so you hate facts? lets be real here if we didnt do what we did in ww2 japan would be dominating us and if you think im wrong you need a history lesson.

its not about whipping out a entire country its about saying hey you either bark and promote videos on attacking the united states we will send a message. if you still cant understand that or make sense of it learn to watch the news or read a paper once in awhile.

diplomacy hasnt done shit and you know that and you know what else? im sick and tired that we have to be the world police for everyone and imo i say fuck them worry about ourselves i mean we are the supreme super power in the world but i guess to people like you we need to bend over and allow other countries to basicly rape us in the ass because you dont wanna grow a set of balls. i say let israel loose on iran seeing as iran dosent have jack but they still go out and say oh we want to whipe isreal off the face of the earth. we shouldnt tell isreal to not attack its there job to protect themselves

If nothing else, the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings should serve as a reminder to all nations why NO ONE should drop nukes on anyone. What we did then was only to try to get Japan to surrender and bring WW2 to an end. If anybody starts dropping them now, it's only gonna start a chain reaction and just make things worse for everybody.

I'm sure the government is keeping a close eye on things and if for some reason Kim Jong Un does decide he wants to start attacking other countries, we'd be entirely justified in going in and bombing them. The problem is most of the world believes they don't have nuclear capabilities, the thing is our intel can be wrong at times. Just look at Iraq.

iraq wasnt a mistake it was a personal vendetta against sadam because he tried going after bush sr...........

besides they dropped the ball on bin laden without sending more troops to tora bora when they had him in the mountains.

rumsfeld lied and said he never got a request to send more troops wich imo is total bs because how can you be a top guy at the white house and not know what is requested?

This kind of debate just makes me want to piss on everybody who took part of it. Bout to drop the R Kelly Bomb on you motha fukkas.

Such incivility!

id punch north korea in the face i don even give a fuck

My point is that I am entitled to have an opinion, whether it's one that people will agree with or not. I don't have to back myself up with facts if I think something is stupid. If I think Obama is stupid, I'm entitled to that. If I think Bioshock Infinite is a great game, I'm entitled to that. I don't have to explain every single time I think something is great or not, just let it be. And yeah, if you don't like it, please let it be and stop caring. I don't believe I'm right and this is the answer all of us should follow, it's an opinion. Opinions are meant to be agreed and disagreed with, but not every time I need to explain myself as to why I think this way. And if you have a problem that I don't have to explain myself, then stop trying to embark some petty little argument with me because I don't have to explain every single time I disagree or agree with. I should be allowed to say, "that's stupid" to something that is without always having to back my reason. I don't need to all the time, and that should be tolerated.



Hate facts, what? Do you understand that this guy hasn't done anything to us that would even allow us to consider dropping a bomb that would wipe out their entire country? All this guy has done is make a few threats claiming they have weapons. And every time I read an article about this, all I keep reading is that his weapons would hardly get to us. We're keeping a close eye on them because he's making threats to us, but he hasn't done a single damn thing that would allow us to go into their country and wipe them away.

Here's something, dropping nuclear warheads onto countries that hate us doesn't make things just suddenly end. Even when we did it to Japan, why? People still to this day are effected by birth defects as a reminder to what we did to them, and how devastating nuclear weapons are when used. The destruction that goes with it basically has people living in an area that's too contaminated, and those who are effected passes those down to their children. It doesn't go away, it doesn't end. There's nothing good that comes out of dropping a nuclear weapon. And whoever said that if we do drop it, it'll cause a chain of events, yes it will. Do you think that if we just bombed North Korea, everything will be fine and dandy? No, it certainly won't, because now we have to deal with China. And China is already trying to calm North Korea down, having us just drop bombs onto them, is going to cause trouble for us with China since we're in their debt. All that I know about nuclear warheads is that we haven't used them since World War 2, and there's a reason why there hasn't been one used since. You can't just think dropping something that would wipe everyone away would be a good answer, because there's more that goes into what happens afterwards that's more devastating than actually having it be dropped. We're not just killing the enemy, we're also killing innocent people.

We can send messages back that doesn't have to slay hundreds of people. We're not the kind of people that would capture people and kill them in front of a video camera to show North Korea that we mean it when we say, "leave us alone." I don't need to watch the news because you think I don't get the message. I watch the news and continue to see how we've been sending stealth planes over towards them and seeing what's going on. You're just as awful as the porker himself by saying, "you're making threats to us? Well, here's a bomb, shut up now!" That's stooping to his level, to be honest. And I disagree with anyone who constantly think that dropping nuclear weapons solves everything. Because it doesn't.

We shouldn't have to be the world's police, yes, I'll agree to that, but unfortunately our government and military thinks that we should. It's tiresome to constantly hear about sending troops to other parts of the world because something is occurring where hundreds of people are dying, that should be between them and whatever the issue is, not with us interfering. However, our people think that we can walk into a country and try to calm things down. I don't have any kind of control to beg my country to stop doing this, even when more people are begging, that doesn't do anything.

“You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass.”
-Isoroku Yamamoto, admiral

The Japanese did not even have a plan to invade the mainland. Not to mention the general logistical messup the Empire was, coupled with an industrial deadline of oil running out thanks to an embargo,....

Simply put, what you said is not a fact. Theorems in themselves are not facts.

If North Korea posed even the slightest threat to America, we already would have slammed them with an A-Bomb.

Why be scaed of this guy when all of his "elite warships" were made with Photoshop.

Yep. His naval factory is but a PC.

All we need to do is threaten North Korea back down. it's like the little 90 pound weakling trying to bully the All-State lineman. It's not going to fool anybody. North Korea will just do something stupid like TRY to get a missle into Austin, Texas (of all places) but end up htting mid-Russia or something, and then there's a new war they have to fight.

Yup. N. Korea vs. China, Russia, and the USA. That'll work out well for them.

Does anyone else wish to solve this issue without firing a single bomb?

Or am I the only one who does not want a resolution that involves killing a shitload of people, on either side?

Toche, my friend.
I don't think that's really possible, in this age, though, with Obama (with his super-drone-blow-everything-outta-the-way attitude) as president and with such threats already being used. Though, I would like to see a peaceful resolve to everything going on now. It would benefit everybody.

A few days, we actually talked about this is one of my classes. We all agreed he won't do it. Because things aren't so "hot" right now, it would be just them trying to scare us into submission. Let us remind North Korea how big we are compared to him.

The only real threat is China. North Korea is paired p with China, China having half the world's population. Oh, North Korea, remember last time you tried to shoot a bomb at us, it fell back down . . . I really don't think you're smart enough to actually shoot it halfway across the world if one of them fell back down after 3 or 5 minutes. And China isn't really well known for its weapons, mainly just the conspiracy of well trained ninjas and the toys Burger King puts out in their kids meals.

Honestly, if we get hit, we wouldn't even call it WWIII. But I doubt that they will ever succeed in actually hitting us, more or less us being threatened by them. I'm pretty sure we won't get hit, final answer.

They may have China, but we have the entire country of Europe, that included Russia. We also have Japan on our side. If Japan could do so much damage to us, we can do more damage than them.

But overall, I'd prefer not to get involved in this little "war dispute." Even though it's never going to happen.

It would be totally justifiable if North Korea was nuked. Sometimes you must resort to nuclear warfare, and that okay because its just a natural progression mankind has made in war. Nuclear bombs can actually prevent the loss of unnecessary lives, at the cost of some Koreans, many Americans could be saved. Thats just how it works, sacrifices must be made for the greater good, and a world without North Korea doesn't seem so bad.

I'm sure the citizens of North Korea would feel the same in such a situation.

So, what denies them the same factor of killing us to protect themselves, especially considering how big of a threat the U.S. apparently is to them?

Do you see how backwards your statement is? Everyone wants to survive, so why not push towards a solution to where no one dies?

I'm just going to go on a good guess and believe he's mainly trolling.

Although, to refer to your earlier question, you're not the only person who doesn't feel the need to drop the bomb on anyone because they're making threats and having acted upon them.

"Lets bomb them first"

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Peace > war, people.

No seriously if it comes down to it

I value to lives of Americans over North Koreans

If one of those country's had to get taken down a level then it damn well will be be North Korea, I trust Obama with nuclear weapons, not that nut who runs North Korea, and I trust Obama will make the necessary sacrifices for the greater good.