Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale

This game got so much unwarranted hate straight outta the gate. It was labeled a "Smash clone" which is total bullshit. If you play the game for more than 2 seconds you'll know straight away that it is no clone. I think it failed to distinguish itself from Smash in it's advertising though. Plus the lack of content and unsettling number of bugs and glitches make the game feel more like a beta than a full fledged game. But the one thing about the game is it's fun. No matter what it's fun.

Beyond: Two Souls

I think the biggest criticism aside from "HURR DURR IT'S NOT A GAME IT'S A MOVIE!" was that the story wasn't told chronologically. Never bothered me but it seems like everybody else was so mad that they had to use their brains to connect the timeline by themselves. I really enjoyed the characters and the story. It had some Oscar worthy performances for sure. But most people just hate the idea of a game being centered around a story and would rather have mindless repetitive gameplay.

Resident Evil 6

I'll admit it wasn't the best RE of the newer ones but I did like it. I loved the characterization of Sherry and Leon the most. And the gameplay felt so much smoother than clunky RE5. The overall story was weak but the individual stories were good.

My pick is Tony Hawk's Underground on the Game Boy, overshadowed completely by its primary port. It has unique gameplay and everything.

Mortal Kombat 4
While this is not only my favorite MK game, but my favorite video game, Mortal Kombat 4 has been referred to by many as their least favorite MK game.

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I loved this game for its character creation system and amazingly interactive arenas. However, the reviews for this game are very mixed.

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This game isn't memorable to most people, but for me it was one of my favorite games on the SNES.

Glad someone else said it first. I'm actually a fan of Quantic Dream and I am always taken aback by people's negative reaction toward their games.

The Toshinden series:
The first 3D arena fighting game that included characters wielding weapons, but sadly, it didn't age well. However, I still enjoy playing it from time to time. ^^
It was competing against games like Tekken and Virtua Fighter, but never gained any where near as much popularity as those two.

Heavenly Sword:
It was seen as nothing more but a God of War rip-off and the game was very short, however, I loved it to bits. Nariko is badass and I am glad to see that a movie is in the works, though I would have preferred a second game. ^^

DmC: Devil May Cry:
The reboot of the Devil May Cry series that SO many fans loathes, because it made changes to the storyline, the character designs and it didn't use the MT Framework engine with 60fps, but rather the Unreal engine at 30fps. But I love it, I love the re-designs and the story in it.

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Catwoman, the game:
So the movie with Halle Berry is seen as one of the worse superhero movies, but for some reason, I LOVE it. And the game for the movie was really funny to me as well, I loved the fighting mechanics and that you could swing around with her whip, crawl on the walls and her cat-sight as well. I just thought it was well thought out. They did better in Arkham City though, but she wasn't playable for long in that game, sadly.

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That's it for now. ^^

WHOA now. Hang on. I respect your opinion on the games you chose KLDS, but really? You would rather sit through a game that plays like total shit (I'm not talking about Beyond. I've never played Beyond. I'm just talking about vidya in general) just so you can be interested in its plot? I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I like to play a video game for the gameplay first and foremost. If it's fun, I'll probably stick around a lot longer than normal. This is why I dropped Tell Tales "Walking Dead" after the first season. I just don't care enough about the damn gameplay to sit around playing "Muh Feels: The Game".

Sure stories can be good, but if the gameplay is bad, I'm not really caring about the plot at this point. That's my opinion on the matter.



Games that get no respect? Ummmmmmm, I can't really think of a game I love but people hate on. I guess I'll go with Silent Hill 4: The Room. The mainstream crowd loathes that game for no real reason. Most of the hardcore seem to love it though and I'm one of them. So there's that.

One reason I love video games is because they are such a good way of storytelling. To me, it's much more satisfying to be invested in a good story than gameplay.

I love good gameplay too, don't get me wrong. That's why I'm a fighting game fanatic, because gameplay is the most important thing in fighting games.

Yeah, a good balance between a good storyline, good graphics and good gameplay is preferable. But sometimes a game can afford to lack in some aspects while being spectacular in others. For example, many indie games lack in graphics, but has spectacular gameplay, while a game like Beyond: Two Souls is rather lacking in the gameplay department, but has a really good story and graphics as well. A game can be enjoyable without being the best of the best in all aspects.

I'm sorry, but it is pretty clear that Playstaion All-Stars derives from Super Smash Bros.

Its entire concept - a fighting featuring characters from many franchises belonging to the same gaming company - comes from Super Smash Bros.

Its gameplay layout comes from Super Smash Bros.

Hell, its character select screen layout - with the roster being up top, small in size, and the select character images being on the bottom, zoomed in and greatly enlarged, comes from Super Smash Bros.


It is indeed a great SSB clone. Just because it is has noticeable differences, doesn't mean it's not a clone. Trust me, Soulcalibur is damn good at proving that. lol

Just because it looks like Smash don't mean shit. It doesn't PLAY like Smash, and that's what's important. Smash may have popularized the Brawler genre, but they don't own it. And do I need to mention how Smash stole from Sega's game The Outfoxies? That whole style of play derived from that game.

Absolutely. I'm a story guy myself; if the story was good enough I'd play through the entirety of the worst controlling ATARI Jaguar game. Now, that's not to say I don't value gameplay I do, it can make or break a game without a storyline. However, I value story to a point where I can ignore faults if the story is good enough.

Ultimately, what It comes down to for me is I have two separate categories of games

1. Story Driven

2. Play Driven

I like both groups, but I love video games as a storytelling medium; for me, the story is what legitimizes games as an art-form. I, of course, love Mk, I enjoy COD, SSB, LOVE classic platformers, but they appeal more to my sense play- like a toy would.

I've actually talked about this before, because I think that people who don't play video games often get a picture in their head of Mario or COD and assume that games are just like toys - something to be played with. I think this perception is damaging to the medium as it seems to deny legitimacy to fantastic writers and artists. I'm pretty passionate about this; I once angrily called my friend's brother "An uncultured child who is only serving to degrade the medium they claim to enjoy" because he said that Mass Effect and Metal Gear Solid were pointless because they only had "campaign mode."

I love gameplay, I love games that don't necessarily have a story, but I crave games with story, and thank God when I get that perfect balance of story and gameplay.



I don't give a fuck about graphics

You're trying to point out the noticeable differences within Playstation all-Stars in an attempt to prove a point, and it isn't working.

Your statement like saying in Soulcalibur Xiba isn't a clone of Kilik because he has a few new moves and his critical edge is different. The minor differences Playstation All-Stars have do not keep it from being a clone.

As for the Outfoxies, the game is just another fighting platformer. The only similarity is the multi-layered arenas which, in Smash Bros.' case, stems from Ice Climber.

I'm not bashing you or anyone else for liking Playstation All-Stars. I'm only stating that it is far too conspicuous that the game derives from Super Smash Bros. for anyone to deny it. Whether or not it is a bad thing is left to the player's discretion.


Feel free to respond at any time, but I must admit we are getting off-topic.

Ristar

Saturday Night Slam Masters

Chakan

BUG!

Blaster Master 2

Sonic Spinball

Magic of Secherazade

Super Ninja Boy

Fighter's Destiny

MDK

Apocalypse

Fighting Force

Eternal Champions

Shaq Fu

Jumping Flash

Mario vs Donkey Kong 1

"Primal Rage" Sega Genesis
"Killer Instinct" Super NES
"Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective" Sega CD
"Corpse Killer" on Sega Saturn
"Ehrgeiz" PSone
"Sonic Adventure" Dreamcast
"Hydro Thunder" Dreamcast
"Twisted Metal Black" PS2
"Dante's Inferno" Xbox 360
"Killer Instinct" Xbox One

Those are the first ten that spring to mind for me. Some of them got decent scores, but they were all panned by critics and/or genre fans for one reason or another. Twisted Metal Black was too dark, Dante's Inferno is a blatant ripoff of God of War, old KI was a bastard of MK and SF with a lame hook, new KI is so incomplete... The list goes on.

Once I played any of these games for myself though, I had a blast with them.

I didn't realized these were hated on. Usually I hear mostly good things about these games. But if you're right, then they're added to my list as well, along with KI Gold.

You're right, PSABR is not a Smash clone. It's a Smash clone with everything that makes Smash great removed from the game. Being forced to use certain moves to defeat opponents is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen from a fighting game. The stages were bland, too many characters played similarly, and it somehow managed to be even worse than Smash in the balance department, which is saying a lot. Like what you want, but damn that game is simply indefensible.

I've supported MK all these years, bad reviews and all, so that's one franchise that fits this thread. Also, some of the old South Park games, which were almost universally panned, I found enjoyable.

I'm sure plenty of people were against Smash's ring out system at first. But people got used to it overtime. Too many characters played similarly? Like who? Good Cole and Evil Cole? One of things PSAS did right was character diversity. Bland stages? I guess.

But this is the hilarious part. You bring up balance. Kat is the strongest 1v1 character in PSAS but she's still not nearly as OP as Meta Knight. MK has absolutely no bad match-ups at all. Isaac actually has a favorable MU against Kat. So at least someone can beat her.

Diablo 3

I've heard a lot of people talk crap about this game due to the likeness of World of Warcraft spell bar, and how Diablo looks too feminine. Also a lot of hate went into the auction house bullshit and that first day of playing, the servers crashed so we couldn't play it for such a long time. I've heard a lot of negativity about this game and I don't get why. I thought it was well-created, and it was really fun.

I thought the game was great personally, I thoroughly enjoyed playing as the wizard, who I feel is the most over powered class in the entire game. I would like to get the expansion, but it's coming out in March and I really, really, REALLY want Stick of Truth more.

I mean, I like seeing the Crusader class from Blizzcon but yeah... Decisions, decisions.

As far as the tried and true Smash system goes, you were never shoehorned into a certain move to get kills. Even the characters who were terrible and at the bottom of the tier lists had a number of moves with kill potential. Ganondorf in Brawl, who's almost universally believed to be the worst character in the game, has at least five moves with solid kill potential.

I'm not talking about similarity the way you think. When I say similarity, I mean that the characters, with few exceptions, all felt slow, clunky, and unresponsive. Nothing you do in the game means anything until you have meter, and even then many characters have crap specials until level 3. There's no risk until someone can use a special, and then it becomes a turtle or spam fest.

I mean seriously, THIS is high-level gameplay? Yawn.

You're trying to base an entire game's balance on one character? OK, I can do that too. Kat has her own tier on the final tier list, just like MK does in Brawl. Kat's also banned at most tournaments, like MK. There's talk around about banning Isaac for being nearly as good, yet you never hear that about Brawl's #2, Ice Climbers, even though they have a zero-to-death throw chain. I've yet to find a matchup discussion that says Isaac is favorable vs. Kat, but whatever.

As for MK, while he does have an edge in all matchups, six of them are 5.5-4.5 and 11 more are 6-4, so it's not like he shuts everyone down. We're not talking about Smash 64 Pikachu here, who is at the very least a 6-4 against everyone and 7-3 or better against a third of the cast.

The one thing I will say about the PSABR system is that it rewards aggressiveness. It's not really a good thing or a bad thing, it's just different.

who the fuck plays Brawl competitively anymore? It's all about Project M now

as for underrated games, I think Skullgirls is really fun. I also wish Monster Hunter blew up in popularity here like it has in Japan

A game i loved for the NES that never got hate because it was largely overlooked (therefore not much in the way of 'respect') was Low-G man. I never completed the damn thing but the playability for a game made completely out of 8-bit graphics was quirky and original, and completely ahead of its time. Also the randomness of the power-ups was so much fun.

That's the entire point I'm trying to make.

Why would anyone play the game if it was a straight up Smash clone if you could just play Smash? It makes no sense. I applaud Superbot for trying something new with Brawlers. The system isn't perfect and the game has it's flaws, but there is potential there.

Smash wasn't a huge success when it started either. It wasn't until Melee that the series really hit it big. Hopefully PSAS gets a sequel that delivers everything the first one couldn't. I don't mind people hating it, but calling it a clone is really just plain stupid. It's very clear it was inspired by Smash, and the only similarities are in appearance.

Final Fantasy 8. Granted, there is a fairly large base of people who celebrate the game. No matter how many haters the game has, I cannot say it never got its credit.

And it's not even like all the criticisms are unjust. Yeah, the drawing system is tedious. Yes, the time compression plot point was problematic. I'll even concede that the memory loss plot device should have been written out of the story. However, these are NOT damning criticisms. The high points of the game dramatically overshadow these problems. I wish I had the time to get into why I like it, but my time at this site is severely limited these days (and to those who have messaged me, I'm sorry it's taking so long to respond. I'll get to ya, I promise). Just to reiterate, I do understand where the criticisms come from, and I don't believe they are without weight.

Except the criticisms about Squall. If you pay attention to the story, all of Squall's character elements that normally draw criticism are completely grounded into the story. People who insist Squall is an emo git either do not know the storyline or are purposely turning an eye from certain elements of the plot (and yes, I've seen the Spoony review. I love Spoony, but he's wrong on this aspect). It's a bandwagon critique that often comes from people who didn't even finish the game.

No, you're taking it out of context. One thing about it being different doesn't make it completely different. I didn't say it's the same as Smash. I said it's the same as Smash, but with everything that makes Smash good either changed or removed.



Because people who are hardcore Sony fans who don't have Nintendo products want their own version of Smash? Is that really hard to understand?



Wrong, the original sold 5.5 million copies.



See above.



Hope so, Sony fans deserve a faithful attempt at a brawler, but it's unlikely that SuperBot will make it because they split with Sony a year ago. But until it has some compelling, distinguishing characteristic that truly separates itself, it's basically to Smash what Bloodstorm was to MK.

And SubMan, if we're being technical, the pro scene is still on Melee. Not even Project M.