sounds like he's just being childish and bootyhurt.

if he doesn't talk about it now, nothing is going to get him to talk about it. it'll just come out on it's own in due time.

i would be a bit upset if i liked a girl for a long time and then some guy comes and sweeps her off her feet in a matter of 10 hours, so that's just natural.

i wouldn't worry about it bro.

CONGRATS ON MAKING OUT WIT DAT ASIAN THO!

haha...sorry...i had to.

Well not to sound like an ass here but Bro's before Ho's. You really shouldn't have put the moves on anyone you knew he was interested in. I mean, the dude lives on the otherside of the country, you go all the way to DC just to make out with the girl he's been drooling over for the last year.

Honestly If I were you I'd just put in all out there in a huge apology and leave the ball in his court. Wheher he wants to salvage the friendship or not is really his say, you lost right to decide that. Unless of course your cock is doing the thinking instead of your brain in which case you might as well try to pop Laura's cherry because you already lit the fuse so you might as well stick around for the bang.

the guy lives across the country.

if i were in your shoes, i'd forget about it and snag the chick.

bro's before hoes, only if your bro has the same area code.

that way he can't beat your ass.

Before I can offer you any sort of advice, I need to know one thing:

How open are you to three-ways?

Sadly, my cock and brain are both thinking on this. I don't want to get rid of Laura, but I don't want to lose Kevin. I'm thinking of writing him a giant apology and all, but I don't think he'll take it.

I don't want to ditch him for her at all. I'm trying to keep us together as friends, us being me and Kevin.

She's also very shy, and a virgin. She's not too open to banging.


As for the 3-way Q, very VERY open. But Kevin and her are both shy virgins, so that option is out of Q.





As for an update, he finally started talking to me in a phone call, and he hung up on my crying. I seriously fail at this, at least with him.

lol wtf????

that guy has issues. for real bro.

you met him online.

girl > guy met online.

Blah teenager drama. Your friend is being a big baby, and you're a douche to your new internet boyfriend. Forget about him, and nail the Asian.

Eh..did you even know this guy personally before you visited him in Washington D.C.?

I didn't. I only knew him thru Battlenet, but, I have 2 friends in real life, and Kevin has been pretty close to me.
Other words, people I know over the internet mean a lot to me, because I have very few friends that I know personally.



Yea, but this girl has been the girl he idealized as the "exception", the girl who has proven to be a real girl, and I destroyed his entire perception.
Not only that, but I'm not gonna see her or him again, or if I do, it'll be a loooonnng time, so, this relationship with her is pretty pointless, aside from having a fun fling... But then, the whole Kevin thing n whatnot.
And yes, he does have issues, but so do I.



Yea... I know it's teen drama, but I've never really dealt with teen drama before, or been directly in the middle of it. Yes, he's being pouty, but it has reason because I sort of painted me out to be an untrustworthy jackass and her to be, as Kevin put it, a whore. I would like to nail her, but I think it would make Kevin feel too bad, and I think I'd feel guilty. It's hard to forget about a good friend.


Either way, I had a long talk over the phone with him, in where I basically gave him a giant apology, admitted to being the jackass here, and overall basically told him that the being sorry and the whole thinking of me as a friend was in his hands. I really hope it all works out.

Just for your amusement, I did cry.

Arg, I saw this too late.
I pretty much forced the talking out of him, and I told him to blame me being horny and etc etc, and to take all blame off of himself.

In reality, yes, I do realize that he should've been faster and that I was being a horny dick, but I really don't want him to feel the pain.

But yea, I pretty much did in the last hour the opposite of what you suggested. Regardless, thanks for the advice, it does help in me remembering that I am still just a teenager.

First and foremost, I dont think it was appropriate at all to betray his trust like that. You basically let him know after him confiding in you that you value a bit of pussy more than a potential friendship. And don't blame being young on that.

You knew going ahead and doing that would upset him, so you've nothing to blame but your own selfishness, not your youth. Grown men make the same mistakes and that's hardly to do with their age. You might gain some respect back from him if you be a man and admitt to him that you were being incredibly inconsiderate towards him, but don't grovel. Sometimes that pisses people off more than it consoles them. I probably sound like I'm being a prick, but I'm in my early twenties and I know for a fact that even at my age if a friend of mine betrayed my trust like that I'd be pissed off too. Don't expect sympathy for doing something shitty.

Having said that, he never made the move on that asian girl. What the fuck else does he expect? Considering the friendship is potentially ruined, you can either put your friend first and cut all ties with the asian girl, or you can fuck her senseless and move on from the situation and forget them both. Either way your both at fault: Him for not having the balls to go after the girl he liked and losing out on her, and you for thinking too much with your cock to consider your friend's feelings.

Looking at problems like this reminds me why I drank so much as a teenager lol

To be very honest, why did this guy not make a move before? I can understand him being nervous but surely the thought of asking someone who's equally nervous and shy must've crossed his mind.
As for your friendship, I'm glad to hear you guys spoke about it, but don't forget the girl is involved too. He needs to talk with her, and so do you, so that you guys can all figure out where to go with this, because now you have a girl who wants to be with you across the country, and you have no intention of going back for a very long time, nor does she have any intention of visiting you within the next few months either (right?). You have to see where this'll go realistically.

Now that all that is out of the way, and there's nothing I can really say that hasn't already been said (I was just going to suggest asking the friend's forgiveness), I'm just curious: what's so "immature" about anger at betrayal? To me it just seems like a completely natural, if not rational, response. What would the "mature" response have been? Maybe the friend didn't handle his emotions like a pro, but "immature"? Don't know about that. Though I will say that calling the girl whatever nasty thing it was (I don't remember) was out of line, and if he handles his emotions that poorly maybe it's better that he remain alone until he learns better.

You're young it comes with the territory. You did pull a fast one on your buddy Kevin and he has every right to be pissed like that, as you get older and if you're lucky, mature and get more experience in dealing with people face to face you learn not to take things to heart. From an outside perspective everything don't seem so bad. Him being a virgin and being shy only added to the blow about taking the girl off alone without his consent but then again if you didn't do what you did who's to say that you'd get that girl in the first place. And like other's have said the girl ain't off the hook either, did you force her to kiss you? I think not, plus a girl has a hard time deciding who they're attracted just as guys are, it just happens and it's something you really have no control over, you do luckily have control over your actions.

Don't ever apologize for going with your gut feeling and going for what you feel is right, that is not what a man does, you should apologize to your friend for crushing his expectations with her and let him know that you meant no disrespect because that seems to be the major issue here. A true friend especially at your age with barely any history or commitment with a girl will never let that same girl end the relationship. The way I see it is that there was open territory with similar interests one party had their eye on it longer but you came in and went with your instinct, there is no shame in that at all. Next time communicate better with your friend because a piece of ass is not worth the price that's like a long time friendship in the long run.

Ladies and Gentlemen, you should have had simply told him you were interested before it happened so he wouldn't had found out the way it hit him. Simple he and you should learn from this and don't jump to any conclusions because if this it the first time it has happened to you then no worries. Its life learn from it and continue living, if he truly is bugging out than that is how he is coping in his own way. He should learn from this situation or experience and so should you. Smile now.

Well, it won't matter now. Mods, lock the thread; his family is going somewhere for the July 4th weekend and I have no time on the weekdays next week and am leaving back to Arizona on the 6th.

Me and him talked on the phone, and he said that when/if I came, he would be fine with me and her. He apparently is trying for a different girl, who he said has liked him for a while but he had little interest because his sights were on Laura.

tl;dr, I won't be seeing him, he's fine with the whole thing, friendship saved.

As for the girl, meh. I got her number and fb, so I'll have contact.