Lmao, and sadly in the end, that's what matters.

Nightwing has more fans than you'd think,also he became my favorite character to use,with joker in second,also Grundy isn't a bat villain,he's a dcu villain,he didn't start in batman,though I don't remember what comic book it was that he debuted. Get what you were trying to say,but then you pulled nightwing into it.

Grundy started out as a Green Lantern villain if I'm not mistaken.

She broke out of that years ago. Birds of Prey say hi.

Giant Batman and guns Robin are any better? No.

No you got saddled with most popular and recognizable and notable Batgirl. Sit.

So what you're saying is that she's not the bat character you wanted. Oh okay.

Because she's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Joking aside, I do hope we get Cassandra Cain or Stephanie Brown skins someday, as well as a Robin costume for Nightwing.

They definitely need to do a Stephanie Brown skin. The costume even kind of looks like hers already.

@Detox
Yeah basically. I got 21$ in my....ps3!
put in 3 more characters and if they interesting, Ill buy :)
Yes Grundy was originally Green Lantern. Those that say he Batman just recently played Arkham City lol

@Bdon *hands over escrima stick* stick around

@Oracle well put!
I wont lie, I never would have asked Batgirl (even she is my 2nd fav DC woman) but im cool with her. I dont mind :D

Well it seems that Oracle pretty much dissected that argument.

Props.

Black Canary or bust. She's the only person I want anymore.

And Batgirl was an awful choice. Sure, Zod and Scorpion were too. But at least they had reasons to be there. Zod, to promote Man of Steel. And Scorpion, to bridge the gap between Injustice and MK. (There was a surprising amount of people I knew that said they would only play for Scorpion.)

But what was Batgirl's purpose? NRS: Let's put Batgirl in because people will just buy anything with Bat in front of it.

There was a metric shit ton of better choices for DLC and they choose Batgirl. I still haven't forgiven NRS for that. But putting BC in will certainly help me forget about the Batgirl incident.

That's what the Man of Steel skin was for. Movie Zod bears so little resemblance to Injustice Zod that it's clear they were hoping for people to see the movie and go out and buy Zod while they were feeling the hype.

And Injustice didn't need a bridge to MK. There was already a previous crossover and it's made by the same freaking team.

The only real case for the first for DLC is that people asked for Lobo years ago. That's it. That's all you got.

Wasn't she Oracle then? I think the complete overhaul of her character invalidates your argument. Not to mention, we're talking about Batgirl on this point, not Barbara.



Yes, because despite your trivial overgeneralizations, they don't use the same gadgets or style as Batman. Hell, even Nightwing is completely different. Robin and Batgirl essentially use different variations of Batman's moves, hindering any sort of originality you could give their playstyles. Todd would admittedly lean pretty close to Deathstroke, unless they decided to focus more on close combat for him, but Azrael is something completely separate from both of them. Just because he was Batman at one point doesn't discredit his original powerset and moves list as Azrael.





And do you know why she's the most popular and recognizable Batgirl? Because she's the only one ever allowed to be represented outside of the comics for some reason. You're never gonna get a new favorite if you never break the mold, which this game has been trying to do by pushing rather unknown characters like Killer Frost, Black Adam, and Ares. Using a different Batgirl would make sense, and seeing as how comic fans have been clamoring for the same thing for awhile, it would probably be enough to make them forget her shortcomings. Not to mention, you said you'd want a Stephanie brown skin two posts after this. To some extent you're in the same boat.



That's just it, they're hardly even Bat characters. They've grown out of the mold and the label. Azrael spent a good portion of his 100 issue series basically proving that. And DC's been trying to push Red Hood as his own character. Meanwhile, all Babs has had recently is Bruce's "you were destined to be Batgirl" bullshit.

LOL. Whatever. You were clearly talking about Barbara Gordon specifically or else you wouldn't have brought up Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown in your original post. We're talking about Batgirl and the person using that name in this game in Gordon.

MY trivial overgeneralizations? You're the one that called her tiny Batman. I was piggybacking off of what you said so there's no need to even address this. Continue to sit.

She's the only one we ever see because she's the one that made the biggest impact. Cassandra Cain was Batgirl forever and she was popular but not to the extent that Barbara was. Dick Grayson is still the most popular Robin. Bruce Wayne is still the most popular Batman etc etc. And they're hardly pushing unknown characters. They put a lot of heroes primary enemies in the game. The ones that weren't so ridiculous anyway. That's why people keep saying Aquaman still needs a villain and things like that. The goal clearly wasn't to bring unknown characters into the spotlight but to create a kind of enemy mine kind of situation where Black Adam and Shazam are on the same side.

And yeah I said I wanted a Stephanie Brown skin. I like her and she didn't really get a fair shake at being Batgirl unlike Babs and Cain did. But that doesn't mean I don't recognize that Barbara is the one that people associate with the title.

If you can't see that Batgirl specifically Gordon isn't just a bat-family character then you are trying too hard to be willfully ignorant to make your point.

They clearly wanted to hammer Man of Steel across with Zod. It doesn't matter if he doesn't look like he did in the movie, Zod is Zod.

There were quite a few people turned off by NRS making Injustice instead of another MK. So to appease those people, they added Scorpion.

Neither character was a good choice for DLC by a longshot. But Batgirl is still by far the worst addition for DLC. I seen people actually request Zod, but absolutely none for Batgirl.

Batgirl was one of the first characters I put out into the universe with Aquaman and Black Canary so
I didn't see any requests for Zod. So the amount must've been about as negligible as Batgirl. I mean if your argument is Batgirl is awful because no one wanted/requested her then stop now because no one needs to ask for popular characters. You don't need to ask for Android 18 to be in a DBZ game, you know? Also putting Scorpion one of the most divisive and, as far as fandom goes, over exposed characters in is hardly throwing a bone to MK fans.

I agree with them. Batgirl REALLY did not need to be in this game. Could have waited for Injustice 2 but whatever.

General Zod actually scored higher than Batgirl on the popularity poll. Proof that Batgirl was even more unwanted than Zod.

And my entire argument is Batgirl was entirely unnecessary. There were SO many better choices for a DLC character. All of which having better chances to be a unique character. Batgirl plays differently than Batman, but plays like a Bat character. You couldn't say that about Swamp Thing or Dr. Fate. I mean out of the entire DCU we get Batgirl. Really? It's a tasteless joke.

And Scorpion was the best MK character to pick. He's a classic and easily the most iconic, why is he a bad pick for an MK character? And since Killer Frost had about 80% of Sub-Zero's moves, it was best to use Scorpion. He represents the series best, just like Ryu best represents Street Fighter.

But her presence isn't the blight that people are making her out to be. Red Hood is definitely needed? Who NEEDS to be in this game outside of Justice League mainstay Martian Manhunter? Not nobody.

You spoke on it like it was a treat for MK fans. Scorpion is not a treat for MK fans. It's like when you ask a person the street about Pokemon, they'll talk about Pikachu but ask a Pokemon fan and they'll talk about lots of things. Scorpion is clearly the mascot of the franchise but among the fans there are other popular characters. Scorpion wasn't put in for US.

Killer Frost was necessary? We NEEDED Killer Frost in this game? It'd be incomplete without her? We'd revolt if we didn't have Killer Frost?
Bane is an integral part of this game? Without Bane there is no Injustice? Were we going to make it without Lobo? Injustice without Grundy is a day without sunshine? Oh but we're still going to talk about Batgirl? Oh okay. Batgirl doesn't play like anyone else in this game. None of the bat-family characters play alike, there are no clones in this game. Y'all can stop the hyperbole acting like Batgirl is a generic rehash of a character we already have. She doesn't play like Nightwing or Batman. That argument doesn't even exist.

But where as the clamor of people asking for him? Don't back peddle to prove your point which was who asked for Batgirl? No one asked for Zod or Scorpion either. Lobo was requested years ago. YEARS during a completely different cycle of games when he would've been interacting with equally brutal MK characters. Again the argument doesn't even exist.

At this point, I'm just happy to see the game is still being supported. I didn't expect more than four characters, so anything we get from here on out is butter.

That's all DEBATABLE. More diverse characters could have been chosen over Batgirl, like Swamp Thing, Fate, Zatanna, Atrocitus, Black Manta, Captain Cold, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Scarecrow, Poison Ivy, Black Canary etc and the list goes on

Aquaman and the Flash don't even have a villain!

Also - Scorpion DID get put in for the MK fans and casual fans. On numerous websites people were going crazy for Scorpion, and a lot of people want Sub-Zero now aswell. I'm not one of those people but i'm just stating the truth here.

We have a super strong swamp character and an expert magic user and two lantern ring characters and an ice user and so on and so forth. Batgirl is hardly the bastion of unoriginality you're making her out to be. These characters have ties that run deep with each other so there are going to be some thematic similarities almost regardless of who they would've chosen. Not many people are claiming Zod is unoriginal or a waste of character despite being another Kryptonian.

Why would Aquaman and Flash need villains? What even does that have to do with anything?

Scorpion got put in because Boon loves his dirty spectre underwear. People are asking for Sub-Zero because they seem to think that the two of them are a packaged deal and this is despite people originally claiming that Scorpion was a waste of space that could've gone to a DC character. Those same people would probably have a fit if another crossover game was announced. So really I don't see your point there.

Man, oracle's whiteknighting of Batgirl aside, I'd love to see Doctor Fate, or a Prof Zoom skin for Flash. I hate NRS' tendency to make P2 costumes just a slight tint in color. Especially when so many costumes in DC could be recreated just by changing the palette.

lolkay.

Professor Zoom is in the game...kind of. Although yeah reversing Flash's colors in his primary could've made a good shout out to Zoom.

Everyone in the game has a villain besides Flash and Aquaman. They could use one.

Batgirl is not fucking original at all. She could have been replaced with a MUCH more needed character, also not to mention, SHE GOT LAST ON THAT TWITTER POLL.

I don't really see your point there either. It's obvious some people wanted Scorpion, and you said they didn't.

Oh sure, Injustice had some characters that were not very requested on the starting roster, so we should just thrown in Batgirl for shits and giggles? When dealing with DLC, usually you go by fan request. What the fans want. Fans didn't want Batgirl and the poll shows it.

Like I said, Batgirl plays differently than Batman but is still limited to being a Bat character. She actually has a Batarang move just like Batman, except with a different animation.

The fact is, there were better choices than Batgirl.

As much as I agree with most of you... there is no point in arguing with a fanboy and we should all know that by now.


It's kind of sad that Scorpion is the most fun DLC to play as and it seems it will stay that way. I wish they had much better picks for DLC even if that meant Scorpion wasn't in (I didn't even want him in to begin with. He just ended up being the most entertaining).

As for Aquaman and Flash villains that would be really nice to see... any of these would be better than Batgirl (or most of the season pass for that matter).

- Black Manta
- King Shark
- Oceanmaster
- Captain Boomerang
- Ragdoll
- Captain Cold
- Heatwave
- Shade
- Top
- Gorilla Grodd