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07/28/2013 10:55 PM (UTC)
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No use whining over spilled milk, Batgirl's already in the game. Some of us like it, some of us don't. Either way, we all have our own versions of how we want the roster to look. As much as I want Starfire, I've already accepted that I probably won't see her in this series, but that's okay, because the roster is already great as it is (especially with the near-inclusion of Martian Manhunter).

It has all the powerhouses of the DC, and it filled the gaps with less popular but welcome additions to the roster. Those lesser-knowns could have been anybody, but each of them has a fanbase of their own. So support them, hate them, it doesn't matter because they're here to stay.
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07/28/2013 11:10 PM (UTC)
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I quit the internet for two days and Black Canary is announced???
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07/28/2013 11:47 PM (UTC)
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ScorpionEater12 Wrote:
I quit the internet for two days and Black Canary is announced???


haha, nah, the concepts on the front page leaked a couple weeks ago. If that makes her more likely to be included or not, remains to be seen.
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07/29/2013 01:19 AM (UTC)
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
As much as I agree with most of you... there is no point in arguing with a fanboy and we should all know that by now.
Shhh. Go to sleep. Can I just say that my comments aren't so much in response to MKOs words about Batgirl so much as they're about the reasons you guys bring up for saying there are better characters. The primary reasons for saying she was a bad choice apply to other characters on the roster and other DLC characters but yet Batgirl is the one that gets brought up all the time. Hell even bringing up reasons why other characters should be in also apply to Batgirl which is probably the reason she was considered so early and actually made it in. If everyone's argument was "I just flat out don't like the character" there wouldn't even be anything to respond to. I can't make anyone like her but people trying to turn their opinion into a more legitimate sounding argument just works on a kind of circular logic that doesn't really work. But whatever, reduce me to a fanboy.

KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Oh sure, Injustice had some characters that were not very requested on the starting roster
So why doesn't anyone bring them up?

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Everyone in the game has a villain besides Flash and Aquaman. They could use one.

Batgirl is not fucking original at all. She could have been replaced with a MUCH more needed character, also not to mention, SHE GOT LAST ON THAT TWITTER POLL.

I don't really see your point there either. It's obvious some people wanted Scorpion, and you said they didn't.
When in Injustice was announced who was like "Aw man Scorpion HAS to be in this game. It's not DC with Hanzo". Who said that? Who is this person or peoples lol.

Are we still talking about that fake poll? If she was in the second batch of DLC I'd give it to you but does it need to be explained that she was decided WAY before that poll?
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07/29/2013 01:35 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
. I mean if your argument is Batgirl is awful because no one wanted/requested her then stop now because no one needs to ask for popular characters. You don't need to ask for Android 18 to be in a DBZ game, you know?
Does this apply to Martian Manhunter?
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07/29/2013 01:47 AM (UTC)
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@Oracle when the first season pass leaked a lot of people were happy about Scorpion being in and a lot weren't. It pleased some MK fans and displeased some DC fans.

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07/29/2013 02:12 AM (UTC)
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Those lesser characters on the starting roster, are very unique gameplay wise. They don't play anything like anybody else. Batgirl has a Batman move. Batgirl adds nothing new gameplay wise.
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07/29/2013 02:24 AM (UTC)
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So, a conversation about the next batch of characters turns into what seems to be an argument about Batgirl. What does she even do with the new characters? I would like someone to explain because this is getting way out of hand.
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07/29/2013 02:57 AM (UTC)
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Phantoms Wrote:
So, a conversation about the next batch of characters turns into what seems to be an argument about Batgirl. What does she even do with the new characters? I would like someone to explain because this is getting way out of hand.


Because the article implies we may not get any more DLC characters, so we're saying that there are a lot of characters that should've been in instead of Batgirl, who is the least justifiable choice of all. Lobo and MM are fan favorites, Scorpion was for the MK fans, Zod was for Man of Steel, and Batgirl just seemed pointless to most of us.
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07/29/2013 02:58 AM (UTC)
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moneyguy Wrote:
Does this apply to Martian Manhunter?
The thing about Martian Manhunter is that before the Justice League cartoon he never really got his due. And as the roster for this game grew it seemed like a forgone conclusion that he would be in but of course we know how that turned out. Also I think he's a victim of business practices. DLC has to be characters that people are willing to pay for. It's the reason Rain was left out of the initial roster for MK2011. NRS has said from the beginning that this game would have more DLC than MK so I guess it's just a matter of if fan demand is what made them include Martian Manhunter or if he was always going to be included and they were just waiting to extend the life of the game, soooo depending on if Martian Manhunter was always intended to be included then yes, that applies to him as well.

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@Oracle when the first season pass leaked a lot of people were happy about Scorpion being in and a lot weren't. It pleased some MK fans and displeased some DC fans.

I saw almost total contempt for his inclusion (second only to Batgirl obviously). There were some people that were fine with it and a few that were excited about it but it's wasn't the split down the middle that you seem to be implying here. People also seemed to have reacted to him more negatively after his release. He had a Deathstroke amount of people readying the nerf bats.

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Those lesser characters on the starting roster, are very unique gameplay wise. They don't play anything like anybody else. Batgirl has a Batman move. Batgirl adds nothing new gameplay wise.
Oh Lord. Batgirl has a batarang. The audacity. NRS deserves an award for how unique all these characters are especially with their previous track record.
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07/29/2013 03:13 AM (UTC)
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Yeah she does have a Batarang, so why not go with a character that doesn't use a move a character already has? Guess completely unique move sets are just asking too much these days...
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07/29/2013 03:38 AM (UTC)
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Did we all forget Batgirl has scatter bombs too? Just saying considering the topic is about Batgirl borrowing moves from Batman.
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07/29/2013 03:38 AM (UTC)
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lol Somehow me thinks you don't have a problem with more than one character having a parry move or Nightwing's wing-ding-thing.
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07/29/2013 03:46 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
lol Somehow me thinks you don't have a problem with more than one character having a parry move or Nightwing's wing-ding-thing.


Multiple characters with parry moves are fine because they aren't the exact same projectile gadget. Don't even try to compare the two.
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07/29/2013 04:13 AM (UTC)
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Oh yeah and Batgirl and Batman have the exact same play style because they share one projectile? Please. I won't compare the two if you won't be hyperbolic.
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07/29/2013 05:02 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
Oh yeah and Batgirl and Batman have the exact same play style because they share one projectile? Please. I won't compare the two if you won't be hyperbolic.


Why is this so hard to grasp? Batgirl was a terrible choice. If they needed another female fighter they had tons of potential characters to choose from, why settle for Batgirl? What the hell makes Batgirl such a great pick over Black Canary, Poison Ivy, or Zatanna? She had no reason to be in the game in the first place.

And the fact that she HAS to use a Batarang is a complete lack of creativity in the moveset.
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07/29/2013 05:15 AM (UTC)
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KungLaodoesntsuck Wrote:
Why is this so hard to grasp? Batgirl was a terrible choice. If they needed another female fighter they had tons of potential characters to choose from, why settle for Batgirl? What the hell makes Batgirl such a great pick over Black Canary, Poison Ivy, or Zatanna? She had no reason to be in the game in the first place.

And the fact that she HAS to use a Batarang is a complete lack of creativity in the moveset.
But why are you so hung up on the batarang? Like she eats breathes and shits batarangs. That's the crux of your argument? Her projectile?
I mean I don't need to justify her inclusion although I did a page back. You can say a lot of characters didn't need to be in this game in the first place considering the minimal impact they have on the story. From a gameplay perspective she-like every other character in the game-brings something something completely different to the table.
I mean if you would've preferred someone better than so be it but say that. Don't try to legitimize your fake arguments about why an iconic character made into a game. Why is THAT so hard to grasp. Again I'm just piggybacking off of what you guys are saying lol.
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07/29/2013 05:20 AM (UTC)
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Can't wait for the stream tomorrow...**

**=futile attempt to derail batgirl rage
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07/29/2013 05:39 AM (UTC)
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It's not just Batgirl's play-style, it's her personality. She has the wrong personality for Barbra in general. In the comics, Barbra is more quiet than her being talkative and a smart ass. This is just Stephanie Brown with red hair and Barbra Gordon slapped onto her.... I mean come on, she basically has Stephanie Brown's costume, too....
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07/29/2013 05:49 AM (UTC)
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Detox Wrote:
Can't wait for the stream tomorrow...**

**=futile attempt to derail batgirl rage
I forgot that's today.

Phantoms Wrote:
I mean come on, she basically has Stephanie Brown's costume, too....
I noticed that. But I don't even think Stephanie currently exists in the DCnUand Barbara has a popular on-going right now.
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07/29/2013 06:00 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
Can't wait for the stream tomorrow...**

**=futile attempt to derail batgirl rage
I forgot that's today.



Indeed! I honestly wonder what they're gonna show us that we didn't already see in the reveal trailer. I'm assuming that we'll at least get some hints as to the next reveal.

How badass would it be if, just before they end the stream, they have one more match and have Manhunter face the next dlc character?

...and it's swamp thing...

OK, the last part was wishful thinking, but the rest of it would be a nice surprise.
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07/29/2013 06:05 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
Can't wait for the stream tomorrow...**

**=futile attempt to derail batgirl rage
I forgot that's today.

Phantoms Wrote:
I mean come on, she basically has Stephanie Brown's costume, too....
I noticed that. But I don't even think Stephanie currently exists in the DCnUand Barbara has a popular on-going right now.

She was almost in the upcoming "Forever Evil" story arc...Then they decided against it. *Forever Evil has 17 Batman issues....Damn*
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07/29/2013 06:55 AM (UTC)
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Detox Wrote:
Indeed! I honestly wonder what they're gonna show us that we didn't already see in the reveal trailer. I'm assuming that we'll at least get some hints as to the next reveal.

How badass would it be if, just before they end the stream, they have one more match and have Manhunter face the next dlc character?

...and it's swamp thing...

OK, the last part was wishful thinking, but the rest of it would be a nice surprise.
Well it's always good to see actual people playing and not bot whom I assume is responsible for the gameplay during trailers. Personally I want to see just how phase-y Martian Manhunter is.

Swamp Thing could make it. Keep hope alive. But be careful because you know Grundy has some swamp themed moves and...wow
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07/29/2013 07:02 AM (UTC)
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oracle Wrote:
Detox Wrote:
Indeed! I honestly wonder what they're gonna show us that we didn't already see in the reveal trailer. I'm assuming that we'll at least get some hints as to the next reveal.

How badass would it be if, just before they end the stream, they have one more match and have Manhunter face the next dlc character?

...and it's swamp thing...

OK, the last part was wishful thinking, but the rest of it would be a nice surprise.
Well it's always good to see actual people playing and not bot whom I assume is responsible for the gameplay during trailers. Personally I want to see just how phase-y Martian Manhunter is.

Swamp Thing could make it. Keep hope alive. But be careful because you know Grundy has some swamp themed moves and...wow


This is true.

And yeah, that thought crossed my mind. I can't say I'd be completely against him being a Grundy alt.(I love his gameplay), but it'd be nice to see him get the full treatment.
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07/29/2013 01:05 PM (UTC)
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Only reason I bring it up is to show that we didn't need another character who uses Batarangs.

And the most important part of the argument is that she wasn't requested, and had no reason to be included at all. And yeah you'll say "Well the DLC was planned months ahead of that poll." Well guess what?

People would rather wait awhile to get what they actually DO want, instead of getting characters to serve as fillers.
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