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mkflegend
09/28/2007 03:42 AM (UTC)
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Shinomune Wrote:
Liu Kang vs Superman?
Scorpion vs Batman?
Kitana vs Wonder Woman?
Kabal vs Flash?
Johnny Cage vs Green Lantern?
Sub-Zero vs Aquaman?
Raiden vs Martian Manhunter?
Nightwolf vs Green Arrow?
Sonya vs Black Canary?
Ermac vs Red Tornado?
Jade vs Vixen?
Rain vs Black Lightning?

Seriously...... ¿!¿WTF!?!



Well then the same could be said about Marvel vs. Capcom's match ups....

Ryu vs. Wolverine...

Ken vs. The Hulk...because that's fair...

Magneto vs. Chun Li

Venom vs. Guile

Spider-man vs. Vega...

I rest my case...


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firesnake
09/28/2007 04:27 AM (UTC)
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I don't know what to think.
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Shinomune
09/28/2007 03:26 PM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
Shinomune Wrote:
Liu Kang vs Superman?
Scorpion vs Batman?
Kitana vs Wonder Woman?
Kabal vs Flash?
Johnny Cage vs Green Lantern?
Sub-Zero vs Aquaman?
Raiden vs Martian Manhunter?
Nightwolf vs Green Arrow?
Sonya vs Black Canary?
Ermac vs Red Tornado?
Jade vs Vixen?
Rain vs Black Lightning?

Seriously...... ¿!¿WTF!?!



Well then the same could be said about Marvel vs. Capcom's match ups....

Ryu vs. Wolverine...

Ken vs. The Hulk...because that's fair...

Magneto vs. Chun Li

Venom vs. Guile

Spider-man vs. Vega...

I rest my case...




Isn't the same. Not for Marvel Characters, but for the Capcom Style Games. Isn't the same to put a Comic Chars in a Comic/Anime Style to fight, to put them in a realistic style to make -alitys... because MK vs SF =/= Good Idea....
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09/28/2007 05:36 PM (UTC)
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I still think that most dc characters suck, but then again im not a fan of most of marvels too.

Anyways, seems to me that Midway would be better off making this a straight up Midway VS D.C game. This way they wouldnt really have to make the story fit in the MK world at all, they could just say hey its a mass brawl etc. Rather than trying to explain why all of a sudden theres these super heros flying about in the M.K universe and the other way round explaining M.K guys in the D.C world. That way they can mix up characters abit more and promote possible sequels to say psi-ops etc.
Chuck in people from Mace, wargods, Psi-ops, Area 51, the suffering, spyhunter, stranglehold et al.

Now that'd be pretty cool.
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ZenMasterMike
09/28/2007 06:06 PM (UTC)
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Great so if it is true then not only can Boon and co. butcher MK's storyline but also DC comics. Fantasic, two more things i like that midway fucks up.
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Kamionero
09/28/2007 06:13 PM (UTC)
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if DC did the gameplay instead of Midway I MIGHT consider it! ahahha
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mkflegend
09/28/2007 07:41 PM (UTC)
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Shinomune Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
Shinomune Wrote:
Liu Kang vs Superman?
Scorpion vs Batman?
Kitana vs Wonder Woman?
Kabal vs Flash?
Johnny Cage vs Green Lantern?
Sub-Zero vs Aquaman?
Raiden vs Martian Manhunter?
Nightwolf vs Green Arrow?
Sonya vs Black Canary?
Ermac vs Red Tornado?
Jade vs Vixen?
Rain vs Black Lightning?

Seriously...... ¿!¿WTF!?!



Well then the same could be said about Marvel vs. Capcom's match ups....

Ryu vs. Wolverine...

Ken vs. The Hulk...because that's fair...

Magneto vs. Chun Li

Venom vs. Guile

Spider-man vs. Vega...

I rest my case...




Isn't the same. Not for Marvel Characters, but for the Capcom Style Games. Isn't the same to put a Comic Chars in a Comic/Anime Style to fight, to put them in a realistic style to make -alitys... because MK vs SF =/= Good Idea....


Why isn't it the same? The principle is the same, just not the games. It seems to me that you enjoy Marvel more then DC characters perhaps? Dude admit it, the matches I posted are as fair as the MK/DC ones you posted.

And obviously this is a rumor anyway, and if it is true then MK scraps the "fatalities" for one game...besides like I said before, it can be a side game and MK9 could continue with the "MK storyline" worse case scenario.

And to Zenmaster, DC would work with midway and midway hasn't fucked anything up...granted there's some problems in some of the newer games but EVERY fighter has flaws, believe me I play fighters a lot. Most people complain about the dumbest shit like costumes, someones story they don't like...please. MK isn't the only one that needs some work. SF and KI are dead, SC sucks(SC 3 mainly), Tekken is virtually the same game over and over as well as finally going to go online... and DOA is mainly grapples but it's a good game overall. Then there's storyline, which in the other fighters suck royally...DC would work with Midway for the stories and as I said before, Vogel is awesome, don't care what anyone says. He can write creative stories. DC would write their own characters storylines and Midway would write MK's...not a big deal
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ZenMasterMike
09/29/2007 04:56 AM (UTC)
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Yeah the only thing with that is the other fighters dont rely as heavily on there story because there gameplay makes up for there somewhat lackluster stories, MK on the other hand has terrible and mundain gameplay and relies on its story to draw people in, and in my opinion the story has gone downhill big time. I really do feel a monkey with down syndrome could write a better story than Vogel. But everyone has there opinion.
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09/29/2007 05:52 AM (UTC)
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As I said on another topic on the Future MK Game Discussion on this very thing...

This is seriously the most retarded idea that anybody could come up with. Seriously. Retarded with a capital "DURR!!" Good thing it's nothing but an unconfirmed and idiotic rumor. Not even Midway would do something so fucking stupid.
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Zentile
09/29/2007 11:51 AM (UTC)
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ZenMasterMike Wrote:
Great so if it is true then not only can Boon and co. butcher MK's storyline but also DC comics. Fantasic, two more things i like that midway fucks up.


Midway hasn't fucked up anything. It's not confirmed. It's a rumor. Even if it gets confirmed, it's just a video game.
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scorpionspupil
09/29/2007 06:06 PM (UTC)
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the only good thing i can see spinning out of this is the possibility of a Mortal Kombat comic miniseries being produced

do you know how fucking insane it would be if Frank Miller got conned into writing and drawing a MK ongoing?
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mkflegend
09/29/2007 07:11 PM (UTC)
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ZenMasterMike Wrote:
Yeah the only thing with that is the other fighters dont rely as heavily on there story because there gameplay makes up for there somewhat lackluster stories, MK on the other hand has terrible and mundain gameplay and relies on its story to draw people in, and in my opinion the story has gone downhill big time. I really do feel a monkey with down syndrome could write a better story than Vogel. But everyone has there opinion.


Actually, that's opinion right there. UMK3 has GREAT gameplay, MK:DA has great gameplay, MKA fixed a lot of MKD's problems of 50/50's, wake up and parries...MK 2 is a classic so to say every MK game has poor gameplay is inaccurate. I play them all online, so I know from personal experience not for nothing I'm not the typical "casual" gamer.

Storyline hasn't gone downhill IMO by any means since we have the bios, we're getting the bios to explain things but even so some fans will still be "disappointed" even if midway answers the questions..whatever to each his own.

In a nutshell though, every game has flaws and ups. Especially fighting games.

MK8 I'm looking forward to regardless of crossover or not, I'd prefer not but if it is whatever. It's only a rumor for now anyway.glasses
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ZenMasterMike
10/01/2007 06:28 AM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
ZenMasterMike Wrote:
Yeah the only thing with that is the other fighters dont rely as heavily on there story because there gameplay makes up for there somewhat lackluster stories, MK on the other hand has terrible and mundain gameplay and relies on its story to draw people in, and in my opinion the story has gone downhill big time. I really do feel a monkey with down syndrome could write a better story than Vogel. But everyone has there opinion.


Actually, that's opinion right there. UMK3 has GREAT gameplay, MK:DA has great gameplay, MKA fixed a lot of MKD's problems of 50/50's, wake up and parries...MK 2 is a classic so to say every MK game has poor gameplay is inaccurate. I play them all online, so I know from personal experience not for nothing I'm not the typical "casual" gamer.

Storyline hasn't gone downhill IMO by any means since we have the bios, we're getting the bios to explain things but even so some fans will still be "disappointed" even if midway answers the questions..whatever to each his own.

In a nutshell though, every game has flaws and ups. Especially fighting games.

MK8 I'm looking forward to regardless of crossover or not, I'd prefer not but if it is whatever. It's only a rumor for now anyway.glasses


So you really think DA had great gameplay huh, sure better than Deceptions maybe which isnt really difficult to achieve. And ya MKA did fix some of the problems in Deception but the problem with the fighting engine is regardless of what minor problems they fix, the whole engine is a problem, its outdated, stale, and boring compared to most if not all other 3D fighters and even a majority of 2D fighting. I will agree with you on the classic MK's though, you cant beat those. The problem is, it isnt 1995 anymore, you cant expect 7 or 8 year old games to carry your franchise for ever, eventually Boon and co. are going to have to get it right, or run the series into the ground more-so than they already have. Again i'll agree to disagree.
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10/01/2007 06:45 AM (UTC)
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If this was false, I think Midway would have confirmed it by now.

Midway doesn't announce anything related to MK in months. We haven't heard a word of MK8 in ages. They still haven't confirmed whether they will make Shaolin Monks 2 or not. Why would DC vs. MK be a bigger priority to release info of than these things?

The thing that doesn't make sense is MK (a violence-driven fighting game) associating with non-violent games or universes like DC and Street Fighter.

If they make MK vs. Street Fighter, are the street fighters gonna be able to do fatalities? If yes, then it would be more of an MK game, right? Same thing with the DC rumor. Superman is gonna ruthlessly tear out your spine or knock your head off?

I think the only game/universe MK can deal with is one that is also prominenty violent. Otherwise, if it doesn't have violence, it won't be MK, and if it does, it'll be too much MK. This is simply why X-Men Vs. Street Fighter and Marvel Vs. Capcom worked because niether were violent, both were colorful and appealed to kids, etc. What what kids think when Batman tears someones leg off and beats the victim with it?

This idea is a joke, really. It'll never happen unless the game is non-violent. DC wouldn't let their characters be seen performing fatalities and squirting blood.

I say MK should just stay with making MK games and not putting itself against other games or fighters of any sort.

Besides, DC vs. MK just doesn't make sense if you look at it through DC's perspective.
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10/01/2007 12:38 PM (UTC)
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I was disucssig this over the IRC, and I realized that a MK Vs Unreal game souded a bit more feasible and likely than an mk vs DC game. Both games are violent, and Raiden has already appeared in an unreal game. If mk were to ever make a versus game, this sounds like a possibility.
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scorpionspupil
10/01/2007 04:08 PM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
kingjolly Wrote:
If this was false, I think Midway would have confirmed it by now.

Midway doesn't announce anything related to MK in months. We haven't heard a word of MK8 in ages. They still haven't confirmed whether they will make Shaolin Monks 2 or not. Why would DC vs. MK be a bigger priority to release info of than these things?

The thing that doesn't make sense is MK (a violence-driven fighting game) associating with non-violent games or universes like DC and Street Fighter.

If they make MK vs. Street Fighter, are the street fighters gonna be able to do fatalities? If yes, then it would be more of an MK game, right? Same thing with the DC rumor. Superman is gonna ruthlessly tear out your spine or knock your head off?

I think the only game/universe MK can deal with is one that is also prominenty violent. Otherwise, if it doesn't have violence, it won't be MK, and if it does, it'll be too much MK. This is simply why X-Men Vs. Street Fighter and Marvel Vs. Capcom worked because niether were violent, both were colorful and appealed to kids, etc. What what kids think when Batman tears someones leg off and beats the victim with it?

This idea is a joke, really. It'll never happen unless the game is non-violent. DC wouldn't let their characters be seen performing fatalities and squirting blood.

I say MK should just stay with making MK games and not putting itself against other games or fighters of any sort.

Besides, DC vs. MK just doesn't make sense if you look at it through DC's perspective.
this just might be the most intelligent thing you've ever posted on this forum QS(TB)
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mkflegend
10/01/2007 08:27 PM (UTC)
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ZenMasterMike Wrote:
mkflegend Wrote:
ZenMasterMike Wrote:
Yeah the only thing with that is the other fighters dont rely as heavily on there story because there gameplay makes up for there somewhat lackluster stories, MK on the other hand has terrible and mundain gameplay and relies on its story to draw people in, and in my opinion the story has gone downhill big time. I really do feel a monkey with down syndrome could write a better story than Vogel. But everyone has there opinion.


Actually, that's opinion right there. UMK3 has GREAT gameplay, MK:DA has great gameplay, MKA fixed a lot of MKD's problems of 50/50's, wake up and parries...MK 2 is a classic so to say every MK game has poor gameplay is inaccurate. I play them all online, so I know from personal experience not for nothing I'm not the typical "casual" gamer.

Storyline hasn't gone downhill IMO by any means since we have the bios, we're getting the bios to explain things but even so some fans will still be "disappointed" even if midway answers the questions..whatever to each his own.

In a nutshell though, every game has flaws and ups. Especially fighting games.

MK8 I'm looking forward to regardless of crossover or not, I'd prefer not but if it is whatever. It's only a rumor for now anyway.glasses


So you really think DA had great gameplay huh, sure better than Deceptions maybe which isnt really difficult to achieve. And ya MKA did fix some of the problems in Deception but the problem with the fighting engine is regardless of what minor problems they fix, the whole engine is a problem, its outdated, stale, and boring compared to most if not all other 3D fighters and even a majority of 2D fighting. I will agree with you on the classic MK's though, you cant beat those. The problem is, it isnt 1995 anymore, you cant expect 7 or 8 year old games to carry your franchise for ever, eventually Boon and co. are going to have to get it right, or run the series into the ground more-so than they already have. Again i'll agree to disagree.


That's exactly why MK 8 is getting a new engine all together because it needs it and from past experience, every time MK changes with the exception of MK 4 really(which really didn't change that much from the 2D since it is a 2D game in reality with 3D graphics) have done pretty well.

MK:DA sold bigtime when it came out and yes that game is very good balance wise, gameplay wise and in some ways better then MKD and MKA . For example, sidestepping was much smoother and faster in MK:DA it seemed a bit stiffer in the next two. And as far as old and stale I see what you're saying but what is Tekken? lol same game engine for years virtually, no dramatic change but since it's pretty good gameplay wise nobody cares for change because they don't want to mess with it. The 3D Mk's need a change but I've seen a lot worse and MKD was the worst out of all of them as far as glitches, easy BS to win with...speaking from experience here since I lived online for months with these games.

I was just bringing up a point on the classics, in fact UMK3 won the award earlier this year on gamespot for best xbox 360 fighter download and best fighter for them for an oldschool revamped game. It has wayyyy more comp and users playing it then MKD and MKA combined from both PS2 and xbox live...it's still popular in fact I can send you the link to a site just for UMK3 and classics etc.

But like I said initially, there is no such thing as a perfect fighting game ever...every one of them has a flaw, it's not just MK...SF and KI are dead...DOA is fun but all grapples and counter moves, Tekken same old game with just better graphics and new characters, same engine...and bcan be a button masher at times SC=button masher and the last game sucked...so you see no game is perfect but yeah it's just good to agree to disagree.
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10/02/2007 09:14 PM (UTC)
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This idea is unbelievably ridiculous.

The MK Team may f*ck up once in a while on a few things, but they would never sink so low as to make MK: 8 a versus game, much less MK Vs. DC. Just the thought that someone out there went so far as to say "ZOMG ITZ CONFIRMED!11" makes me wanna burst into tears and pray for the fans of the franchise. Anyway, let me stop rambling on about this and get some reasoning behind my post...

There are many reasons why this is a bad and practically 100%-unlikely idea, but let's begin with the most obvious one. TheBitch did a great job of breaking down a fact that everyone here should have realized as soon as they read the first post. There is hardly a fighting game out there similar to Mortal Kombat. You try to smoosh MK into another fighting game and you'll just end up encountering an endless amount of obstacles that either cause you to give up on the idea or make a complete and utter mess. There's the problem with MK's violence that doesn't fit in with anything else. There's also the problemw ith MK being a dark and solemn type of fighting game, which you don't see much of in this style of gaming; even with the colorful presentation and some of the comic relief of past MK games, it still has a dark storyline, mostly dark characters, and just gives off a vibe of "death and danger" that won't mix in with any other game of its type and much less games of comic nature. It would look out of place, unappealing, and to me, downright nauseating.

The second biggest reason why this is just sad is because making MK:8 a crossover like this is a waste of an opportunity to do what Boon is so inclined with doing for next-gen. Seriously, I don't think a lot of people here are grasping what MK:8 has the potential to be! It's not "just another MK game", people. It's a chance to reinvent the series, to fix everything that has been done wrong, to improve on the series like never before and make it a completely new type of Mortal Kombat, not just graphic-wise, but with storyline, characters, gameplay, atmosphere! What kind of moron would throw a chance to do all this away just to make MK Vs. DC with awesome graphics? That is complete and utter BS, and I canNOT bring myself to believe this could ever or will ever be real.

What seems to be making most people like this idea is the match-ups. I'm sorry, and I have nothing against the fans of DC who are impressed with an MK character fighting a DC character, but to me, personally, the very thought of it makes my stomach lurch. Raiden Vs. Superman... just the very idea of it rings "ultimate nerd" to me. Again, I don't mean to bash on the opinions of those who like it, but its trash when it comes to how I see things.

All in all, I don't see this happening, much less with the gem that MK:8 has the potential to be. Boon and the MK Team are not stupid enough to even try this and throw away all they could and want to accomplish.
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scorpionspupil
10/03/2007 07:25 PM (UTC)
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LeoBrZ81 Wrote:
This idea is unbelievably ridiculous.

The MK Team may f*ck up once in a while on a few things, but they would never sink so low as to make MK: 8 a versus game, much less MK Vs. DC. Just the thought that someone out there went so far as to say "ZOMG ITZ CONFIRMED!11" makes me wanna burst into tears and pray for the fans of the franchise. Anyway, let me stop rambling on about this and get some reasoning behind my post...

There are many reasons why this is a bad and practically 100%-unlikely idea, but let's begin with the most obvious one. TheBitch did a great job of breaking down a fact that everyone here should have realized as soon as they read the first post. There is hardly a fighting game out there similar to Mortal Kombat. You try to smoosh MK into another fighting game and you'll just end up encountering an endless amount of obstacles that either cause you to give up on the idea or make a complete and utter mess. There's the problem with MK's violence that doesn't fit in with anything else. There's also the problemw ith MK being a dark and solemn type of fighting game, which you don't see much of in this style of gaming; even with the colorful presentation and some of the comic relief of past MK games, it still has a dark storyline, mostly dark characters, and just gives off a vibe of "death and danger" that won't mix in with any other game of its type and much less games of comic nature. It would look out of place, unappealing, and to me, downright nauseating.

The second biggest reason why this is just sad is because making MK:8 a crossover like this is a waste of an opportunity to do what Boon is so inclined with doing for next-gen. Seriously, I don't think a lot of people here are grasping what MK:8 has the potential to be! It's not "just another MK game", people. It's a chance to reinvent the series, to fix everything that has been done wrong, to improve on the series like never before and make it a completely new type of Mortal Kombat, not just graphic-wise, but with storyline, characters, gameplay, atmosphere! What kind of moron would throw a chance to do all this away just to make MK Vs. DC with awesome graphics? That is complete and utter BS, and I canNOT bring myself to believe this could ever or will ever be real.

What seems to be making most people like this idea is the match-ups. I'm sorry, and I have nothing against the fans of DC who are impressed with an MK character fighting a DC character, but to me, personally, the very thought of it makes my stomach lurch. Raiden Vs. Superman... just the very idea of it rings "ultimate nerd" to me. Again, I don't mean to bash on the opinions of those who like it, but its trash when it comes to how I see things.

All in all, I don't see this happening, much less with the gem that MK:8 has the potential to be. Boon and the MK Team are not stupid enough to even try this and throw away all they could and want to accomplish.
can i be your friend?

this is exactly what everyone means when they are disgusted by this idea, but it's well thought out and worded correctly.
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mkflegend
10/03/2007 07:32 PM (UTC)
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LeoBrZ81 Wrote:
This idea is unbelievably ridiculous.

The MK Team may f*ck up once in a while on a few things, but they would never sink so low as to make MK: 8 a versus game, much less MK Vs. DC. Just the thought that someone out there went so far as to say "ZOMG ITZ CONFIRMED!11" makes me wanna burst into tears and pray for the fans of the franchise. Anyway, let me stop rambling on about this and get some reasoning behind my post...

There are many reasons why this is a bad and practically 100%-unlikely idea, but let's begin with the most obvious one. TheBitch did a great job of breaking down a fact that everyone here should have realized as soon as they read the first post. There is hardly a fighting game out there similar to Mortal Kombat. You try to smoosh MK into another fighting game and you'll just end up encountering an endless amount of obstacles that either cause you to give up on the idea or make a complete and utter mess. There's the problem with MK's violence that doesn't fit in with anything else. There's also the problemw ith MK being a dark and solemn type of fighting game, which you don't see much of in this style of gaming; even with the colorful presentation and some of the comic relief of past MK games, it still has a dark storyline, mostly dark characters, and just gives off a vibe of "death and danger" that won't mix in with any other game of its type and much less games of comic nature. It would look out of place, unappealing, and to me, downright nauseating.

The second biggest reason why this is just sad is because making MK:8 a crossover like this is a waste of an opportunity to do what Boon is so inclined with doing for next-gen. Seriously, I don't think a lot of people here are grasping what MK:8 has the potential to be! It's not "just another MK game", people. It's a chance to reinvent the series, to fix everything that has been done wrong, to improve on the series like never before and make it a completely new type of Mortal Kombat, not just graphic-wise, but with storyline, characters, gameplay, atmosphere! What kind of moron would throw a chance to do all this away just to make MK Vs. DC with awesome graphics? That is complete and utter BS, and I canNOT bring myself to believe this could ever or will ever be real.

What seems to be making most people like this idea is the match-ups. I'm sorry, and I have nothing against the fans of DC who are impressed with an MK character fighting a DC character, but to me, personally, the very thought of it makes my stomach lurch. Raiden Vs. Superman... just the very idea of it rings "ultimate nerd" to me. Again, I don't mean to bash on the opinions of those who like it, but its trash when it comes to how I see things.

All in all, I don't see this happening, much less with the gem that MK:8 has the potential to be. Boon and the MK Team are not stupid enough to even try this and throw away all they could and want to accomplish.



It's only a rumor dude, don't have an ulcer man lol. Besides, Raiden vs. Superman is a better match up then Ken vs. The Hulk....because we all know that's a really fair match up ....glasses LOL
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