Fingers crossed for the Manhunter.

I'm starting to think that Manhunter is going to be the first DLC character revealed

Gameplay of Joker, Green Lantern, or Bane then. Maybe Aquaman? I'm not sure what constitutes "Gameplay from a character we haven't 'seen'", if it's not a reveal other than the three I listed above.

If its another batman character....ive lost hope for this games roster

@alphawolf1715 It's not a character reveal. It's more like pulling the curtain back on what we've been hinting at recently

— Rigo Cortes (@NinjaBoy66) February 2, 2013

That's rational.

7 characters out of 24-26, +5-8 DLC characters...

Yep...there goes all hope...

God forbid someone like Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Clayface, or R'as takes the place of Copperhead, Cheetah, Bizarro, Professor Zoom, Captain Cold, Black Manta, Ares, or Mirror Master.

Yes, yes...I know. Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Black Adam, Huntress, Black Canary, Zatanna, Sinestro...all of which are going to be locks for DLC if they didn't feel they were fitting to the story or main roster.

Just because there happens to be more characters related to Batman(even though almost all of them have their own comic series and aren't just "Batman characters" anymore), than any of the other respective franchises individually, doesn't mean the roster is ruined. It means the roster has recognizable faces, with characters that they required to fit a certain role in the story. Nobody is just thrown in to be thrown in. Not one "Batman character" will be in the game just because they like Batman, they are in to serve a specific purpose in the story, and because people will actually want to use them.

So don't be so hastey to throw all hope away because one franchise is more represented than another. That particular franchise just has more to pick from than others. X-men usually has quite a dominant presence in Marvel games, that's just how it is when you have so many recognizable popular characters. If all franchises were relegated to the same amount of people in the game, this game would have one crappy roster.

Lastly, i'll end with this:

http://youtu.be/PvOe0PUJkbo?t=5m38s

It's right at the part where they ask Ed, why/how they go about choosing who they include in the game. His answers: 1. Recognizability 2. Fitting the story(have relations to the other characters and can play off them in story, if they have no relation to any of the characters then they omit them) 3. Obscure (unexpected, won't see coming). Reason why they wouldn't choose someone, because there's already someone that fills that role or plays the same. So no Professor Zoom because there's already Flash etc.

N/A

Damn dude, it sucks to see you lose hope like this, as your posts about MM has been one of the more refreshing things around this forum. I, for one, hope you're wrong and MM is in day one and motherfucking god tier at that.

You're the man sir. Keep hope alive.

Thanks man. I try to keep everything I do here mature. Keep that level head. I'm not looking to be the person who expects to get everything. I just try to be the voice behind the minds who keep the dream alive. I just had to release it tonight. My apologies for anyone who may feel this is directed towards. I kept it hidden away for so long, but as I now know where this outcome will lead. I felt it best to speak my mind openly and let you all know what I try to do best and keep hidden has its time and purpose and must be addressed.

As I've said, to any and all who feel this was addressed to them. My apologies.

As a Smoke/Havik fan, I certainly understand the frustration. The amount of secrecy NRS insists on isn't helping things either. I'm sure it would make the situation a lot easier if you just had a solid yes or no.

YOU HERE THAT BOON?!

You should have stuck with your original response, instead of taking this rude approach. Not cool.

You've gotten to the point where you are going from sympathetic(man I hope he's in so MINION is content and happy) to just plain bitter. Lashing out like that at other forum members who support you and respect you, and want the same character you want, yet I try and be rational and positive rather than complain...Instead of saying things like "man, how can _____ NOT be in this game?!" or "I don't want to wait/pay for _____, I
SHOULDN'T have to!!", I try and reason with the thought process of why one might not be included. It's just a more positive outlook.

But hey, at least you get your feelings out there. Wouldn't want you start holding back now...

You say "all you got your favorite in" which is obviously directed at me, because I can name 3 others on this board alone who haven't gotten their favorites (Grodd, Beetle, Black Adam) as well as some others on other boards who have been hoping for Killer Croc and Robin (Oh, but theyre just Batman characters, who cares if they are someone else's favorites right?). To which I have to say...You think I honestly care if Batman makes it? If he wasn't in so what? I'll play Superman, Flash, Catwoman, Green Arrow...point being, I enjoy more than just one character. I don't put all my hopes, dreams and happiness into one character. Heck, I would love fior Doctor Fate to be included, but I know that's just not going to happen. At the very best, he'll be DLC. That's a stretch as it is. How about Swamp Thing? Been asking for him since the game was announced, yet I always knew it was a long shot. How about Watchmen fans? Good luck. You want mainstream JLA members? Hawkman...Ed just dismisses him and makes it seem like he's a joke.

Fact is, everyone has their favorites. You aren't the only one to not get who you want. As an adult, we learn to accept that without making a big deal about it. Lashing out and insulting fellow forum members that has been friendly to you but merely explains why a character might be left out for the sake of giving an alternative perspective, is not going to win or hold onto any respect.

That's just not cool. I wouldn't go about disrespecting you or any other person on the forum just because a favorite fictional character of mine, that I support, doesn't get picked for a video game. That, imo, is just taking it too far. There's passion, and then there's just being plain disrespectful.

Good point man. Well spoken.

I remember you telling me not to give up hope for Gorilla Grodd and I'm telling you the same thing that you told me....don't give up hope bro, he's going to be in the game I still believe that Grodd is going to make the roster even if he's DLC, just don't give up hope because MM has to be the most requested character on this forum and all over twitter. I mean there have been more hints at MM then there have been for Grodd because let's face it, there hasn't been jack sh*t said about Grodd being in this game lol but I'm still hoping and believing that he's going to be in the game.

I also think that NRS knows that if they make Manhunter the first DLC character then there are going to be ALOT of people who will pay just for him, although I don't agree with that it's a good business plan for NRS.

I mean if the DLC characters turn out to be this:

1. Martian Manhunter
2. Power Girl
3. Gorilla Grodd
4. Zatanna
5. Blue Beetle
6. Lobo
7. Poison Ivy
8. Swamp Thing
9. Black Canary
10. Killer Croc

Then NRS is going to be rolling around in extra money because most of these characters have been requested on Twitter, Facebook, Game FAQ and at Comic Book Movies and plus don't forget about the character skins that are Pre-Order bonuses.

Trust me when I say that Martian Manhunter WILL be in the game even if he's DLC

***WARNING! Long Post Incoming!***




Well man. I have tried to avoid this. I knew it would come with consequence. I've been patient about things, until just recently. I have kept a balanced mindset. And hey, I know you told me not to expect a whole lot out of the character. But bro with all due respect. You and I are different. You like Batman, Joker and even more characters I'm assuming. This isn't new from me to you. You know very well I supported underrated characters since I came to MKO. Take and hold anything I've said up until this point and hold it against me. But in all honesty after MK9 how much bigger of an Impact did Stryker make in the community's and amongst fans. I know I wasn't the only one, but being that I am vocal and chewed away at the seems of getting people to respect someone who now plays a bigger role in MK then ever before. It feels rewarding and made everything up until that point 100% worth it. You can't admit that even if it wasn't me that did all the work, the people who did and kept supporting him made him transition from a second rate character to someone people now love. Can you not say that?

I can't help that I spoke my mind. And even if he doesn't fit the story of this game. Why have every JL member apart of this game and leave him for later? Is what's gonna come of him being left out really gonna impact this games story? We all know that characters like Skarlet who were nothing but a mere glitch had brought some hype to MK9 in her inclusion, am I wrong?

You may not like what I posted, and by no means was what I said an attack. But you also gotta remember man, most of the people in this game are characters you like. Sure I have other characters I like in this game. But to me it's not so much a broken mindset. It's a will of trying to believe in a cause of something that I know when it comes around will leave a lasting impact.

I spoke my mind in full because it was a bag of mixed emotions based on the cause and effect of this point. Call it what you want. But with all the teasing and the reply's to my tweets with ed saying stuff like:

Ed Boon ‏@noobde

RT ‏@MK_MINION @noobde Can't wait for Martian Manhunters Appearance. #Excited#EveryDayWaiting EB: Uh oh. #Nervous #Dontholdyourbreath

Do you realize joking or not. How insulting that is? Especially when I'm more then willing to support the games. Despite how you look at it, and even if This is completely one sided. It's still not as funny as others may think. Yes I'm glad Ed responded. It's rewarding to any of us to be acknowledged by him. I love the lore of that I do, don't get me wrong. It's just crushing to say the least, depending on the answer.

I don't feel that my cause to support something is anywhere near Immature. It's not, it's believing in a cause. Am I not allowed to do this? Am I suppose to hide this? I don't have to but I have. Cut me a break man. You even admit "fictional characters" inclusions don't really bother you. And that's fine. But I'm hardcore into this lifestyle. You think I buy comics, figures, and posters to look cool? No, It's a lifestyle I take very seriously. And If I'm wrong for it. Then I guess people like Stan Lee are too.

Maybe to you bro, and with all due respect Cy. Maybe to you it's a hobby. But to me it's a lifestyle. Sorry again, but the way I think and you Interpret my reaction is polar opposite man.

And maybe you're right, I should have kept my original post the same. But after all is said and done, would you of respected me any more for not coming out and being honest?

And for everyone who's had my back and supported me from day one. I got nothing! NOTHING! but graciousness and respect for them. I blame no one but myself. Maybe I didn't push hard enough or maybe what I thought I had I could make work and didn't. I take any and all responsibility for what's been decided. So if you think I'm ungrateful of whats been done here by people who have given me this respect. You're wrong man, so wrong. The other members here are just as prone to their hopes as I am. These people, their hopes of something sparking it's their same drive that keeps me going and coming back here everyday. Seeing the post and hype surrounding this game from them is what keeps this section alive. I may seem ungrateful for speaking my mind. But I swear to god, I take away nothing from any of you. You are all valuable assets to this project. And you are all what keep me going and sharing everything I think and feel and hope for in this game. Not Bullshit, I got mad love for the MKO Community. A lot of what I said above was 3rd party. Meaning anyone who feels that I'm wrongly approaching my honesty. Should think about stuff they wanted so bad at one time and reflect upon that.

All's I'm saying to you Black is you tell me I shouldn't go around feeling mad because I feel like he got shafted. But coming from someone like you who you make great valid points. Coming from someone like you man who I feel is happy with this games roster and is providing you with alternatives to your prioritys. That people like myself and many others here and elsewhere can't swallow that pill of reality as easily. I'm just saying man, respect that it's a hard pill to swallow and some of us cope better speaking freely then not at all.

I don't want to lose you as a friend over this, but look at it from my point of view man.

All that was really meant by me quoting what you said and using it as reference was it's not always easy for people to accept facts. We all believe and hope and aim towards things that sometimes benefit us, or are disregarded entirely. People that have something to look forward and are rewarded with what they get tend to value that more so then those who are not as fortunate. That's all I meant bro. Really sorry I took it out of context. Was harsh and could of been worded better from the start. I take full responsibility for that and am man enough to man up and apologize to you. I'm sorry bro.

With that said. I admit my frustration won me over. Not something I'm proud of but it happened and you all witnessed it. I apologize to any and all of you who are close to me in friendship and see this as an act of immaturity. I really did try to hold back and I couldn't. I hope my brethren can forgive me. I love you all. And ask that you please continue to support mine, yours, our causes. Our voices shall one day be heard.

I have no doubt that Martian Manhunter will be in. He has been in almost every incarnation of the JLA to my knowledge, and has some great abilities that Netherrealm has some familiarity with (telekinesis, shape-shifting, etc). Plus, he has solid relationships with many of the other characters already featured in the game. Case closed.
I just wish they could find a way to shoe-horn in Jonah Hex...

How much of an impact Stryker made? What are you talking about? You mean to tell me someone started liking Stryker, and it actually impacted their life? They changed who they were because you supported Stryker enough and they caught on? He has made zero impact because he isn't real. Did you constantly mentioning him and hoping for him open up a few more people's eyes into liking him? Sure. Enough exposure to anything can start gaining some interest. Doesn't mean it changes anything of any importance other than someone choosing to play as him in the game, or having his picture in their sig, and writing "he's cool" in a thread. Is that really impact?

Respect Stryker? It's a character. NRS could have Stryker in a bunny outfit crapping his pants eating banana peels if they wanted to. Point being, how can you respect something that has no control over itself, because it's not alive or real...? I love Batman and superheroes in general, I am passionate about them, they aren't just a hobby, but they aren't an obsession either. There's no respect involved, because if I were to respect anybody, it would be the person creating/writing the character, and even then, just because they make something I enjoy, doesn't mean they are a respectable person. They could go home and beat their wife and kids, kill 3 homeless people, and then burn down a church...if they write a character I like or not, there's not going to be any respect for that person after that.



I really don't think Skarlet mattered that much. I played online constantly, and I rarely saw people with DLC in the first place, let alone choosing Skarlet of all people. Even if she brought a little hype, I don't know what that has to do with Martian Manhunter. MM is someone people will want to buy and play as, as you would be the first to admit. So it's only smart on their part, if they don't need him in the story mode, to make some money off of him. It's a business, they aren't going to sell DLC of characters that nobody is dying to play as. You have to have enough of an interest to want to pay for something extra, and MM would at least sell well.

Why is he the only original JLA member left out of the main roster? It's not about what's fair. This is a video game, do you honestly think the creators sit around saying "well, it wouldn't be fair to leave this person out", or "we have ____ in, so we have to put ____ in otherwise that would be unfair". No, because that's ridiculous. They are trying to choose from a library of hundreds of superheroes, and narrow it down to 20-30 characters. Take every DC fan there is, you honestly think everybody is getting their favorite? That there isn't thousands if not hundreds of thousands, of other people who like one of the 100+ characters NOT making it in the game at all, not even as DLC? So do you realize, just how selfish, bitter, and rude you come across when you make statments like "it's not fair", "I shouldn't have to wait/pay", or(and here's my favorite) "you all got your favorites, enjoy playing as them from day 1 while I have to wait". Really? Watchmen has quite the fanbase, yet they'll never be included. Animal Man and Swamp Thing aren't going to be the front of the line anytime soon...What about Temp. and his Blue Beetle, well, it's pretty much DLC or nothing. Gorilla Grodd? Man, the guy on here who wants him has been a saint compared to how you are acting now about MM. And he's realistic and patient about it, knowing full well Grodd likely won't be in, and is just hoping for DLC, which he is ok with. Basically, I could go on and on here. It's not about fair. Everybody has their favorite, and you are not the only person to like/support someone who isn't a gurantee. Most people just don't make a big scene or lash out in rants.

Are you telling me you just are being treated more unfairly than the next guy, or is it that you are just more passionate, that they are different because they accept it instead of fight? I see plenty of people on here mention Manhunter and your name in the same sentence, because they care, but I hardly see you making these rants for the Blue Beetle, Grodd, Black Adam, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, Animal Man, Booster Gold, Zatanna, Hawkman, Black Canary, and anybody else I have seen mentioned here.


Well, it was an attack, in the sense that you blatantly pointed out what I have done on several occasions, even in the prior post, and proceeded to throw around insults and claims "anonymously". Coming from someone who I have considered a friend on here, who I respect, support, and have been cool with up until this point...yeah, if that's not an attack than idk what is.

Most of the people in this game are characters I like? It sure as heck didn't start out that way. I just manage to have an open mind and take the time to learn about them, play as them when available, and eventually they grow on me. Months ago I didn't care for Grundy, Green Arrow, Flash, Wonder Woman etc. But they grew on me. I start to look forawrd to them. And truth is, in MKvsDC, I hardly ever used Batman, I ended up using Shazam most times I chose a superhero to play as. I didn't even care for Captain Marvel, but I give them all a try.

You say it will leave a lasting impact and you are believing in a cause. A cause that leaves a lasting impact imo, is helping sick children, providing food, donating money, or even a simple thing like holding a door for someone. You giving praise to MM in every thread, then ranting and lashing out and saying it's unfair, is not a cause. Especially because, we all like MM. Go look at the initial thread of roster wishlists, MM is on almost all.



1. This is nothing new from Boon
2. Are we really that sensitive these days?

Boon has always done this. From Rain, Stryker, Sektor, Smoke, Cyrax...any of the B list and down, he always loves to joke around and hint. How the hell do you think Hawkman fans feel when he outright says the character sucks and will never be in one of his games? Or the other teases to Penguin, Swamp Thing, Captain Cold etc. It's not as if he singled out you in all his years, and chose to toy with you. You sent him a tweet regarding someone, and he sent back a non-answer. You knew he wouldn;t give you a straight answer, you aren't new to his ways.



Ok, this is where it just got a bit crazy. Buy them to look cool? Who the heck buys comics, figures, posters etc. to look cool? This isn't the cliche of smoking cigarettes 30 years ago, this is comic book fandom. When the heck has that been about looking cool? I don't do it to look cool either, and I own my fair share of each. It's not a hobby, but to call it a lifestyle is a bit out there...It's just a passion, something you love. I don't live the life of Batman, Flash, or Superman(although I wish I could), because that's just impossible. If you mean being a comic book nerd, well then hey, we're not so different as you seem to think. We just have very different levels of what's important. To me, my friends, family, loved ones, health and safety etc. Those are most important. Then comes school and work. Then you can start getting into passions such as games etc. Ultimately, I am not going to be sent into depression or start a strike because Batman was left out of a game. To me, that's called obsession, not love or passion. It's a very unhealthy obsession when you let it effect your physical/mental well being. To which, I have to say, 99% of this forum is in the same boat as I am. Their favorite doesn't make it, they just move on and hope for next time, with maybe a small post about their disappointment. So to say me and the rest of the people that handle it as such just don't love these characters or the game enough, care enough, or aren't as loyal of fans or whatever you wanna label it, well, that's just trying to basically say "I love this more than you, if you loved it as much as I do, you'd be making all these posts in anger and disappointment demanding your character be in the game or else it's unfair etc.", and that, to me, is an immature frame of mind.

Ultimately, I had no problem with what you do. It's the lashing out at me and others out of frustration and anger that your own desires aren't being met, is the problem I have. I'm not what's keeping MM from the game. You aren't the only one to have to accept disappointment. And all I ever tried to do was be realistic and rational so that nobody got to the stage you are now, and that's taking your frustrations out on others that don't deserve it.

But you do what you have to do.

You're obviously missing the point. I'm not gonna go into this all night man. But will say you obviously are taking it in the wrong direction. This is why forums can be a good or bad thing. People sometimes Interpret what you say and twist and bend the truth behind it.

For the record. When I said Impact. I meant he went from being the fat pudgy cop to the Kickass character we got in MK9. I'm sorry Black but maybe you should realize that I come back to edit my post and try to make sense where things seem out of proportion. Sorry you can't understand this by now, of all people that know me. And has been here just as long if not longer.

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Don't see me doing my part in supporting them? Every sig these people wear I offered to make to help their cause. They all deserve everything they at least hope for. God man, you really are someone who looks at me as this evildoer. Everytime I tried to make you a sig to help your cause or out of friendship. You turned me down. That in it's own is disrespect. Do what you want man.

Lol, it takes me a while to write out my response, so obviously I can't keep checking for updates.

I understand what you mean by impact, but I just don't think anything you did, changed anything about how Stryker turned out. He went from being the fat cop to the kickass character because NRS decided to make him better this time around. I've never disliked Stryker, so I didn't understand what the big deal was anyways. Like I said, I tend to like everyone that is offered, that's just my personality. I'm positive and open minded. I try not to focus on whats wrong with something, but rather, what I like about it. So of course i'm going to try and inject some positivity to lessen the negativity that goes on at times on these forums. I'm almost always trying to make the best of things...that's just how I roll.

Like with Grundy, Grodd, Black Adam etc. Characetrs I never cared about. But just seeing someone mention them, I added them to my Heroscape game I wrote about in another thread, and I had fun using them. I also enjoyed seeing them in JLU. So I start to like the character. So I end up liking just about everyone, because I allow myself to. If i only focused on one person, and that's all I cared about or put effort into...then yes, I wouldn't be a very happy person. Same with anything in life. Maybe you should try doing the same? If it's looking like MM is going to be DLC, maybe give some others a try, look up their info, find out more about them, watch animated series episodes with them...start supporting them and you'll have another person to be happy about. When I say if Batman wasn't included, that i'd be fine, it's the truth.l It's not because I don't want him in, it's because instead of harping on something I have no control over, I may as well just enjoy one of the other 20+ characters they offer, all of which are put in because they are going to be fun.

Like I said MIN, I have no problem with what you do. It's not until you lashed out on me, for being positive and trying to offer realistic reasons for why these characters might not be included, and that you aren't alone in having to deal with things, did you rub me the wrong way. I'm a peaceful person. I'm hardly ever to be the one to cast the first stone so to speak.

And ultimately, you know I want MM in the game. He's my number one hopeful along with Doctor Fate and Swamp Thing. You want to know what...? MM actually has a shot at making it in, Doctor Fate...not so much, and Swamp Thing may get a DLC spot if they are feeling generous. I also like Watchmen, but they won't ever make it. Is it disappointing? Of course. I just choose not to let it bother me, because I can get as mad and frustrated as I want, it's not going to hault production and make them any more likely to add them in.

In the end, they are well aware of MM's fanbase. It's their call. They are the ones putting in the work, and they are the ones who have to choose between Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, Blue Beetle, Black Adam, Hawkman, Robin, Gorilla Grodd, Swamp Thing, Doctor Fate, Killer Croc, Clayface, Scarecrow, Cheetah, Zatanna, Black Canary, Sinestro etc. etc. etc.

No matter what, people will be disappointed. They can merely choose best case scenario, but also have to make the story good, and sell DLC people want.

But yeah, between you and I, i'm over this little argument. I don't hold any ill will towards you. Because as I said, i stay positive. We're two different peas, just in the same pod. Both fanatics, just different ways of expressing it. Don't undermine me or call what I do into question, and don't go lashing out at me, and it's not gonna be done to you. It's as simple as that. Just don't be angry when I keep trying to lighten spirits and speak with positivity in mind, it's not meant to tell you you can't feel how you feel, it's meant to keep emotions from blowing up like before. :P

And I don't know how long you've been here, but i've been here since 2001. Way too long. lol

NRS are good at trolling people. Remember just a couple weeks ago Ed replied to a tweet asking if Hawkman will be in. He totally ruled it out, not even a "I can't say right now", but something along the lines of noway in hell or something along those lines. But we got Hawkgirl... Not sure if she's playable or not, but it looks like so much work and effort went to making her model, it'd be silly not to have her playable.

There's still a good key 5 characters left to be revealed, more or less right? Martian Manhunter most likely has a sick ass moveset. Come on, you don't have to try hard to imagine how his specials would work in a game like this. He'd be top tier as he's one of the most powerful characters, most intellect and he's a fucking alien for Christ's sake! It'd be a big kick in our nuts not to have him. I just don't see it not happening. Imo, he's GOT TO BE IN!

Even if he ends up DLC, unfortunately not being a initial roster character would be an insult, but look at how great the DLC's turned out in MK9. Kenshi is one of my favorite characters.

I was actually just thinking about what MM would have as specials...and I couldn't come up with anything beyond something with his phasing. Maybe im just having a hard time thinking of what he could do...but if anyone else can list 6 unique specials for him, please do. Because im stumped. Maybe that's a reason he could be left out, they couldn't find a practical moveset for him based on his telepathy, phasing, and shapeshifting abilities. Those are pretty tough to make useful specials out of...at least off the top of my head I got nothing beyond a dodge using his phasing.

But you made it seem like he's a no brainer, that he's got a bunch of specials that are practical that are easy to come up with. So please share, im curious.

Taken from wiki:

The Martian Manhunter possesses a wide variety of superhuman powers— including telepathy, shape-shifting, projecting energy, x-ray vision, phasing, invisibility, flight, and super strength—

Telepathy: could work if someone shoots a fireball, much like Kenshi's, Nightwolf's projectile reverse move.

Shape-shifting: hello? Shang Tsung! if they've improved their tech, MM should be able to morph into any character in the roster.

Projecting energy: hadouken! (no not exactly, but another energy wave like Sonya's rings)

X-ray vision: can't imagine this as a special, since these characters are not modeled from the inside out like MK9 characters, so maybe it could be incorporated into his super move somehow

Phasing: could be used as a stun move ala Sindel's scream

Invisibility: I don't need to explain this one. Think Reptile, Smoke.

Flight: countless numbers of specials can be made just on that ability. It could be an alternative fighting style as well.

Super Strength: there could be a split second delay and emerge with an extremely powerful punch or grab


So there you have it.

Other than the shape shifting, which I doubt they'd be able to do if they couldn't for shang in mk, all the others listed were pretty much what I listed for doctor fate in my other thread. Point being, none of them are really that unique to him.

I want him in, but I don't think those specials would make him stand out.

Also, the phasing is where he can go through walls, people, and objects, so im not sure how it would work like sindels scream...would he have to touch them or go through them and they get stunned? I wasn't aware that's how it would work. Thought people have gone through him on several occasions and not get stunned.

The energy blast seems like a generic projectile.

The reflect an attack isn't really how telepathy works. Telepathy is the ability to read minds, telekinisis is where you can control objects, such as what kenshi and ermac use.

So yeah...I don't think those would cut it, and as I said, I made a thread for Doctor Fate not too far down, and I listed similar things for him. Only pointing that out because it just doesn't seem like that's enough.

I still stand by he's a great character, but his powers are hard to translate into specials used in a fighter, that are unique to him and fun to use. Im sure someone will think of some...

Don't forget that his specials don't have to be so 'power oriented', if you get my meaning.

1. Intangibility - Could be similar to Smokes defensive teleport.

2. Intangibility II - Makes his arm intangible as he reaches into his opponents mind (great stun capabilities).

3. Telepathy - Mental stun (similar to Sindels scream). Enhanced Telepathy could have reversal of face or directional buttons.

4. Psionic wave - Thrusts a wave of mental energy [pop-up attack].

5. Invisibility - No explanation needed.

6. Morphing - Could be worked to grow to the size of some ferocious beast (imagine Liu Kangs Dragon Fatality, but as a special).

7. Morphing II - Creative transformation that allows his arms to extend jump distance for a grab special. Maybe cycle between 3 or 4 morph animations for either or both specials so it looks like more of a morph variety than it is.

8. Power Vision - Red eye beams, aesthetically similar to Superman's heat vision, except instead of causing damage, they take very small chunks of special meter.

9. Flight - A flying rush down (similar to Raidens B-F-3).

10. Intangible Teleport - Essentially Rains teleport, minus the water effects.

11. Gimmick Button - Mental field that results in opponent doing half the amount of damage as they normally would, for a short period of time.

I don't know if im 100% sold on it, but that's definitely much more interesting. Thanks. Just trying to get a visual of what he could do. Was having a hard time thinking of things that would work. I think the phasing would be the coolest thing to toy around with, as no other character has shown that as of yet, so its a neat idea.

Let's just hope he makes it in because im curious to see what they would come up with.

Yeah, when I was 10 I wrote down an extensive character lists for a Marvel vs. DC Game, and Martian Manhunter and the Thing were my first 'specials' lists I did. I have put quite a bit amount of thought into how MM would work in a fighting game, lol.