New Injustice Screenshot Reveals Killer Croc Among Us
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02/07/2013 04:43 PM EST
This looks like something from Story Mode because IGN confirmed that the first chapter of Story Mode you'll be playing as Batman, so it looks like The Riddler, Killer Croc and Penguin are at least cameos in the game.

Hopefully Killer Croc ends up as DLC because that would be awesome! grin
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02/07/2013 04:48 PM EST
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Lol, well Batman character inclusions are getting enough hate as it is, I didn't want you blowing up the number more than what it should be lol.

Ivy would make a great inclusion purely based on how awesome her specials would be. Same with Scarecrow and Clayface. I don't think there's another character like any of those 3 in the game, nor was there ever one in any MK game. They have a chance to be something completely different and new.

Ra's is along the same vein, but a little harder to do. Would be the best hand to hand guy out of most of the Bat-villains...but his specials are harder to come up with.


Well then fine.

I shall construct a non-Batman hopefuls list!


1. Cheetah


That's about it. I don't know anything about DC Comics, except for maybe Wonder Woman. Why do you think it's been so hard for me composing character themes for this game?

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If this was a Marvel-based game, I'd be all over it, at least with X-Men.

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02/07/2013 04:49 PM EST
Maybe this is just an Alternate Outfit. Classic outfits are a great possibility.
If I can't play as most of these characters in basic comic-book attire, I may not play.
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02/07/2013 05:17 PM EST
legoslayer10 Wrote:
Maybe this is just an Alternate Outfit. Classic outfits are a great possibility.
If I can't play as most of these characters in basic comic-book attire, I may not play.


I think that they confirmed that way back
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02/07/2013 05:27 PM EST
No matter what their play status is, I really don't like the fact that they're more or less cut and pasted from arkham city.

I get it, but the art style(in contrast to this game) sticks out like a sore thumb.

You work with what you got...not what you hope for.

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02/07/2013 05:31 PM EST
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That makes 9 Batman characters so far. And not a single one is Poison Ivy.


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02/07/2013 06:24 PM EST
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Deathstroke sucks! furious And so does Lex Luthor!

Lex is a boss. I love him.
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02/07/2013 06:32 PM EST
Happy to see killer croc but a bit disappointed, no mm or captain cold sadly but I will say this screenshot looks like something from the story mode possibly
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02/07/2013 06:34 PM EST
The fact that none of the three are wearing armor-plated suits with random lines on them leads me to believe what virtually everyone else has concluded, which is they're not playable.

But to the guys saying that it wouldn't be a big deal if they WERE playable, get out of here with that shit, lol. You would not be singing the same tune if the Aquaman series had NINE villains in Injustice, and don't even give me that "but Batman has the best villains" stuff. Killer Croc ain't exactly Shakespeare material, and the Riddler and Penguin (although cool) are not the best DC has to offer in terms of villains (even as far as Batman goes).
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With there being 24-26 characters on the roster, plus an additional 6-8 DLC characters, it's OK if there's 6-8 "Batman characters". Sheesh. Do people complain in Marvel games that there's too many X-men characters? Too many Avengers? Seriously...

But if you look at the roster numbers, it's not a fair comparison. MvC2 and MvC3 had over 50 characters. Injustice will probably land somewhere around 25.
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02/07/2013 06:36 PM EST
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Happy to see killer croc but a bit disappointed, no mm or captain cold sadly but I will say this screenshot looks like something from the story mode possibly

Yea at this point. I'd just love to see what Manhunters design is. Even if it's story based only. Just to know how f'n cool NRS designed him. The Whole DLC thing I can wait for. Just bring on the design.
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02/07/2013 06:40 PM EST
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themasterab Wrote:
Happy to see killer croc but a bit disappointed, no mm or captain cold sadly but I will say this screenshot looks like something from the story mode possibly

Yea at this point. I'd just love to see what Manhunters design is. Even if it's story based only. Just to know how f'n cool NRS designed him. The Whole DLC thing I can wait for. Just bring on the design.


Me and you both man, MM should look just as amazing as what has been seen plus I'd just love to see him play a role in the story as well
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02/07/2013 06:43 PM EST
Yeah just like a few others have already said, I also think Croc is full of... I mean he's just a part of story mode.
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02/07/2013 06:43 PM EST
Temp summed it up nicely.
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02/07/2013 06:43 PM EST
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The fact that none of the three are wearing armor-plated suits with random lines on them leads me to believe what virtually everyone else has concluded, which is they're not playable.

But to the guys saying that it wouldn't be a big deal if they WERE playable, get out of here with that shit, lol. You would not be singing the same tune if the Aquaman series had NINE villains in Injustice, and don't even give me that "but Batman has the best villains" stuff. Killer Croc ain't exactly Shakespeare material, and the Riddler and Penguin (although cool) are not the best DC has to offer in terms of villains (even as far as Batman goes).

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With there being 24-26 characters on the roster, plus an additional 6-8 DLC characters, it's OK if there's 6-8 "Batman characters". Sheesh. Do people complain in Marvel games that there's too many X-men characters? Too many Avengers? Seriously...

But if you look at the roster numbers, it's not a fair comparison. MvC2 and MvC3 had over 50 characters. Injustice will probably land somewhere around 25.


Agree about the batman villains lol don't get me wrong batman is my favorite and I love his villains but imagine if somebody like calendar man made the roster...there would be alot of wtfs wink
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02/07/2013 06:55 PM EST
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02/07/2013 06:57 PM EST
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The fact that none of the three are wearing armor-plated suits with random lines on them leads me to believe what virtually everyone else has concluded, which is they're not playable.

But to the guys saying that it wouldn't be a big deal if they WERE playable, get out of here with that shit, lol. You would not be singing the same tune if the Aquaman series had NINE villains in Injustice, and don't even give me that "but Batman has the best villains" stuff. Killer Croc ain't exactly Shakespeare material, and the Riddler and Penguin (although cool) are not the best DC has to offer in terms of villains (even as far as Batman goes).

blackcyborg Wrote:
With there being 24-26 characters on the roster, plus an additional 6-8 DLC characters, it's OK if there's 6-8 "Batman characters". Sheesh. Do people complain in Marvel games that there's too many X-men characters? Too many Avengers? Seriously...

But if you look at the roster numbers, it's not a fair comparison. MvC2 and MvC3 had over 50 characters. Injustice will probably land somewhere around 25.


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02/07/2013 06:57 PM EST
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themasterab Wrote:
Happy to see killer croc but a bit disappointed, no mm or captain cold sadly but I will say this screenshot looks like something from the story mode possibly

Yea at this point. I'd just love to see what Manhunters design is. Even if it's story based only. Just to know how f'n cool NRS designed him. The Whole DLC thing I can wait for. Just bring on the design.


Me and you both man, MM should look just as amazing as what has been seen plus I'd just love to see him play a role in the story as well

Yea, me too. I'm pretty sure the "cinema renders" folder we saw boon tease meant cinematic cut-scenes. Would make sense since most Batman side characters will play a huge Cameo role. Which is great.
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02/07/2013 07:06 PM EST
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But to the guys saying that it wouldn't be a big deal if they WERE playable, get out of here with that shit, lol. You would not be singing the same tune if the Aquaman series had NINE villains in Injustice, and don't even give me that "but Batman has the best villains" stuff. Killer Croc ain't exactly Shakespeare material, and the Riddler and Penguin (although cool) are not the best DC has to offer in terms of villains (even as far as Batman goes).

blackcyborg Wrote:
With there being 24-26 characters on the roster, plus an additional 6-8 DLC characters, it's OK if there's 6-8 "Batman characters". Sheesh. Do people complain in Marvel games that there's too many X-men characters? Too many Avengers? Seriously...

But if you look at the roster numbers, it's not a fair comparison. MvC2 and MvC3 had over 50 characters. Injustice will probably land somewhere around 25.


Well, I don't really care to have Riddler or Penguin playable. I'm not aiming for 9 here. But, to argue my point...

There's a HUGE difference between 9 Batman villains, and 9 Aquaman villains. Case in point, name me 9 Aquaman villains. If you some how managed to do that without looking any up, now how many of them are recognizable to 99% of the general audience? Ok, if somehow, some way, you managed to get this far, lol, now name me which ones actually have story potential by having built in relationships with the characters in the game. Lastly, and most importantly, now name me who actually favors that character, meaning, what's their fanbase?

I have seen at least 2 members on these forums, asking for Croc for months because he's their favorite.

I haven't seen 1 damn person on here, that favors ANY Aquaman villain, over the rest of the characters, as if they were their favorite character. They may like 1 or 2, but I haven't seen "Man, if _____ makes it in(from Aquaman's franchise), I am gonna be super stoked, and buy this game!!!" at all, ever, on any of the forums.

My point being, Batman's villains have just as big of a fanbase individually, as do most any B list hero and down, that you can name from the DCU. Some, such as Joker and Catwoman, beat out even the A listers.

I have seen people asking for Bane, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow, Joker, Catwoman, Red Hood, and Killer Croc....I definitely haven't seen anywhere close to the amount of support for any Flash, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Wonder Woman, or any other villain.

So the comparison is completely inbalanced. Batman just has more to offer. That's why he is being represented more. Plain and simple. If Aquaman, Flash etc. had the character depth of their respective franchises, and they had the fanbase and recognizability, they'd have better chances, thus, less Batman characters. Batman characters are apart of the DCU just as any other character, regardless what franchise is their home, they still should have equal opportunity to be represented.

Lastly, on the MvC2 and 3 roster count. Those games were half Capcom, half Marvel. So while the total roster was 50-56, Marvel only had 25-28 represented. So my X-men comparison is still accurate. Out of 28 spots, X-men dominate the roster. Wolverine, Cyclops, Bone Claws Wolverine, Iceman, Gambit, Psylocke, Magneto, Cable, Colossus, Juggernaut, Rogue, Sabretooth, Sentinel, Storm. That's 14 out of 28 of Marvel's 28 characters. Because X-men has a lot more beloved characters, with their own fanbase that wants their inclusion, and their own recognizability etc.
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02/07/2013 07:16 PM EST
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Deathstroke sucks! furious And so does Lex Luthor!


Deathstroke is one of the best villians in DC Universe. Well, Lex too, but I prefer him behind the scenes than in armor-war.
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02/07/2013 07:23 PM EST
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But if you look at the roster numbers, it's not a fair comparison. MvC2 and MvC3 had over 50 characters. Injustice will probably land somewhere around 25.


To touch upon what was said already in my last post.

Marvel vs Capcom 2 had 56 characters, so half were Marvel characters. 28. Of the 28, 14 were X-men. That's half their roster.

Marvel vs Capcom 3, had 36 characters(not counting DLC or the Ultimate expansion), 18 being Marvel. Of that 18, 7 were X-men. That's slightly over 1/3 of the roster.

So in both these examples you wanted to use to say that the Batman to X-men comparison isn't fair, you were definitely not correct. In fact, Batman actually is featured less than the X-men, with those numbers.

Then add on Marvel Ultimate Alliance, 33 playable characters, and 9 were X-men. That's over 1/4.

Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 had 34 characters, 11 were X-men. Just under 1/3.

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02/07/2013 07:33 PM EST
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Well, I don't really care to have Riddler or Penguin playable. I'm not aiming for 9 here. But, to argue my point...

There's a HUGE difference between 9 Batman villains, and 9 Aquaman villains. Case in point, name me 9 Aquaman villains. If you some how managed to do that without looking any up, now how many of them are recognizable to 99% of the general audience? Ok, if somehow, some way, you managed to get this far, lol, now name me which ones actually have story potential by having built in relationships with the characters in the game. Lastly, and most importantly, now name me who actually favors that character, meaning, what's their fanbase?

In regards to the Aqua villains, I'll admit it. Ya got me. I know Ocean Master and the Manta guy (I don't even know his full name, lol). The problem for me is that in Batman's case, Iconicness is being treated as the main factor for admittance when it should be treated as one of many factors. Batman's villain are more iconic, yes. That's why I would put 4 of his associated characters in and give Aquaman maybe 1 (Green Lantern has two if Sinestro's in; Flash has zero so far). But nine! Come on, man. That's crazy!

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I haven't seen 1 damn person on here, that favors ANY Aquaman villain, over the rest of the characters, as if they were their favorite character. They may like 1 or 2, but I haven't seen "Man, if _____ makes it in(from Aquaman's franchise), I am gonna be super stoked, and buy this game!!!" at all, ever, on any of the forums.

Who was rallying for Grundy, though? Does he not deserve to be in? Obscure characters are the spice of fighting games. You can make the opposite error like Marvel 3 did and put in a few too many, but there needs to be a balance.

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My point being, Batman's villains have just as big of a fanbase individually, as do most any B list hero and down, that you can name from the DCU. Some, such as Joker and Catwoman, beat out even the A listers.

I have seen people asking for Bane, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow, Joker, Catwoman, Red Hood, and Killer Croc....I definitely haven't seen anywhere close to the amount of support for any Flash, Aquaman, Green Arrow, Wonder Woman, or any other villain.

But again, it's one of many criteria. The reason for a lot of this fandom comes from the films and Arkham games. I don't know anyone who knew who killer croc was prior to Asylum. And with Bane, Grundy, and possibly Doomsday, the amount of heavy-hitters are starting to get ridiculous.

But even if popularity was the final word, I still think nine characters is crazy. There are people screaming for the Teen Titans right now, and it's starting to look like Beastboy and Starfire missed the boat.

And for the record, there is a huge backlash on Shoryuken and EventHubs concerning the over-saturation of Batman characters (and those sites, unfortunately, get a lot more traffic than this one; hopefully that'll change one day). Even the casual-goers think this shit is ridiculous.

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Lastly, on the MvC2 and 3 roster count. Those games were half Capcom, half Marvel. So while the total roster was 50-56, Marvel only had 25-28 represented. So my X-men comparison is still accurate. Out of 25 spots, X-men dominate the roster. Wolverine, Cyclops, Bone Claws Wolverine, Iceman, Gambit, Psylocke, Magneto, Cable, Colossus, Juggernaut, Rogue, Sabretooth, Sentinel, Storm. That's 14 out of 28 of Marvel's 28 characters. Because X-men has a lot more beloved characters, with their own fanbase that wants their inclusion, and their own recognizability etc.

Point taken about the roster being only half-Marvel, but the comparison is weak for another reason. MvC2 characters were predominately imported sprites due to time/money restraints, and given that there was a Capcom game called "X-Men: Children of the Atom", it makes sense that there's gonna be a lot of x-men characters (many of which never saw the light of day once MvC3 came out).

And most of the Avengers were autonomous characters with their own series to begin with.
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Marvel vs Capcom 3, had 36 characters(not counting DLC or the Ultimate expansion), 18 being Marvel. Of that 18, 7 were X-men. That's slightly over 1/3 of the roster.

Wait, where are you getting 7 x-men? I'm not counting anywhere near that number.
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02/07/2013 07:36 PM EST
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02/07/2013 07:40 PM EST
even worse, you can kinda see Two-Face behind flash
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02/07/2013 07:40 PM EST
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Yeah, not sure where all this Batman hate is stemming from.


I think it has to do with the fact that the roster seems to becoming very polarized towards either Batman or Superman characters (more towards Batman at the moment). I personally don't mind the heavy inclusion of batman characters, but i can see why people might be getting tired of it. NRS did say they where aiming for a bigger roster and more DLC that MK9, so I'm not entirely worried.

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02/07/2013 07:43 PM EST
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even worse, you can kinda see Two-Face behind flash

Holy shit you're right.

Well, since these guys are most likely NPCs, I have this to say to everyone complaining about Batman characters.

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