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Why people should respect this game. [MKvsDC]
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posted12/04/2011 02:37 AM (UTC)by
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jbthrash
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MKvsDC seems to be the scape goat as to why the series fell out of popularity. It is also looked at as a piece of crap mess of game, that didn't help anything at all.

Well I want to clear up the bad rep this game is getting. First let me start by saying that this isn't the best MK out of the main series and it has its problems. I would also like to say that I would prefer an M rated MK over a T rated one any day. However, I don't think people realize that this game isn't that bad of a game or that bad of an idea.

What is comes down to is that this game should be looked at as an experiment to gauge what consumers and fans want in a MK game.

Lets look at the gameplay. It was in 3D but it had a strong emphasis on 2D. People liked the pro move system and the return of the uppercut. All of the good aspects of this game are in MK9. By taking a chance with a new gameplay system NRS was able to find what worked and what didn't which helped finalize the gameplay of MK9.

Lets now take a look at the crossover aspect. Overall people didn't like it. Ultimately it boiled down to the fact that there was watered down fatalities. Now WB ad NRS knows to crossover with a license that won't shy away from blood and gore. I think this is a neccessary aspect for the evolution of future crossovers.

Now lets look at the business side of things. WB came to the late Midway wanting to make a MKvsDC. The dying company decided that they needed to make a new innovative move to stay a float. The game went on and sold roughly 1.5-2 million copies. This showed that Mk is still relevant and that this series is still popular. Midway went out of business and luckily WB picked them up. I think this is from the fact that they worked together previously and if they hadn't made MKvsDC then Mortal Kombat could have been left in the dust.

If this game didn't exist then who knows what company would have picked the game up. It also helped fine tune the gameplay of the upcoming MK9. It shows what people want in a crossover and now they know how to make future crossovers better. I think people forgot about that. It's fine if you think the game is bad, but it deserves credit for taking a step in the right direction.

And to all of the trolls, bring it on. Lets see if you can come up with a better argument besides "fuck this game" or "fuck crossovers", and "fuck gimmicks".


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Spider804
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 •03/25/2011 12:55 AM (UTC) •
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Well spoken, I'm glad WB picked them up.
Who knows what we would be doing right now instead of waiting another month for MK9. smile
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Big_Speck
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 •03/25/2011 04:23 AM (UTC) •
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Well said. I fucking loved MK vs DC.
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 •03/25/2011 07:47 AM (UTC) •
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Fantastic post jbthrash. What a lot of the haters fail to realize is that Mortal Kombat would be dead now if it weren't for MK Vs DCU.
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 •03/28/2011 08:37 PM (UTC) •
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Fun game, just wasn't enough content.
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 •03/29/2011 03:03 AM (UTC) •
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J-spit Wrote:
Fun game, just wasn't enough content.


Yeah. I thought that was more of a loss than the blood and gore. After a while the fatalities and the blood get old. Unlocking new shit never gets old.
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 •03/30/2011 11:00 PM (UTC) •
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MKvsDCU has the best gameplay out of the 3D MKs.
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hahaha....
Excellent!

 •04/01/2011 10:56 AM (UTC) •
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GodlyShinnok Wrote:
MKvsDCU has the best gameplay out of the 3D MKs.


This.

Also agreeing with the OP here. MKvsDC was necessary, otherwise MK might have died a slow death by now.
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JohnBoyAdvance
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 •04/02/2011 06:54 AM (UTC) •
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Double the roster and get rid of the 50/50 stages and it would have been awesome.

I am a DC lover though.
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 •04/06/2011 09:15 AM (UTC) •
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i agree i knew that MK vs DC is what saved the MK franchise and also think about it from the MK team if a HUUUUUGE company wanted to do a cross over with YOUR game franchise would you say no?
also it may have sounded like a weird crossover but if you really look at the past MK games most of the MK characters were based or at least influenced by comic book heroes and other old pop culture stuff but mostly comics
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 •04/08/2011 03:29 AM (UTC) •
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this thread is hilarious
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ColdWindBlows
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 •04/12/2011 07:30 PM (UTC) •
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The game sucked... Most of the dc characters used most of mk moves
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(Erik)
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 •04/13/2011 06:38 AM (UTC) •
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Fuck this game. And not because it is a cross over or a gimmick, but because every time that I tried to play online the characters would levitate above the ground and just float across the screen past each other. Piece of shit garbage, unplayable. MK:DA is my favourite of the 3D fighters.
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 •04/13/2011 07:58 PM (UTC) •
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(Erik) Wrote:
Fuck this game. And not because it is a cross over or a gimmick, but because every time that I tried to play online the characters would levitate above the ground and just float across the screen past each other. Piece of shit garbage, unplayable. MK:DA is my favourite of the 3D fighters.


For me it depended who I fought and what kind of day it was. Some days it would be virtually seemless and sometimes it was like I was playing a completely different game.

MKDA is my favorite 3D. But that is partly nostalgia and it was the first MK I really learned how to play.

Online aside I found MKvsDC fighting engine to be way better than MKDA-MKA.
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 •04/13/2011 08:03 PM (UTC) •
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ColdWindBlows Wrote:
The game sucked... Most of the dc characters used most of mk moves


Well I'll take the troll bait. The only real character who seemed to steal moves was Superman, but they where all true to the character. Not to mention it's almost impossible to have a roster with 20 or more characters and not have shared moves. As long as there are no clones it''s forgivable.

Also, everyone nut hugs SF but in the new game 8 characters borrow moves. Yah it's okay if a move or two is shared between two characters. Its not a big deal. If your that anal about it, then just go play Blaz Blue and no other fighting series.
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 •04/24/2011 08:42 PM (UTC) •
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TheNinjasRock071394 Wrote:
this thread is hilarious


with the amount of wrong that is in it.
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•06/03/2011 06:56 AM (UTC) •
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I agree with the original post completely. Good stff JB
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 •06/11/2011 01:51 AM (UTC) •
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MK vs DC's biggest downfall was it was so broken.

I actually think if NRS did another MK vs DC using MK9's game engine, it would be a huge success.

I too was one of the millions ... ( and millions ) bitching and complaining that MK vs DC sucked because the lack of fatalities and mature content , but then MK9 came along and it really changed my whole perspective on things.

Sure the fatalities and stage fatalities are awesome, and the M rated story line was great, but after a month or so, all of that shit wares off, and what keeps you coming back is the game play. In fact, one of my biggest peeves online is when you play a series of matches with someone, and they insist on doing fatalities. Its like , really ? I've seen these a million times, I just want to play now.

MK vs DC's had some cool presentation style game play elements, but from a competitive perspective, they don't work. An MK vs DC 2 using the MK9 engine would be awesome though.
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 •07/18/2011 12:22 AM (UTC) •
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Some of the finishing moves were a bit questionable and laughable, but i guess i can overlook that a little bit....the one thing i wish mk vs dc had was some download content, i think it would have been kinda cool to see all the characters with their own ''respectable'' alternate costumes or something to that degree.
(instead of pressing START for a different color WoooooW)

It probably would have given the game ''some life'' if you will. ps--other than that though, i think its a pretty decent fighting game.
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 •07/27/2011 07:15 PM (UTC) •
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Why people WON'T respect this game:

1) Crossover

2) Small roster

3) Weird costumes

4) Dated graphics

5) Heroic Brutality

6) Rated T for Terrible
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•08/12/2011 03:56 PM (UTC) •
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Agree with the OP completely. MK vs. DCU should not be looked upon as the game that ruined MK (That trophy goes to Armageddon). It should be looked upon as a step towards the greatness that is MK9. I had fun with it. It was cool seeing MK and DC comics characters mingle. Like someone else pointed out, not enough content.
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 •08/15/2011 06:36 AM (UTC) •
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Reasons MK vs DC kicked ass:

1. Motherfucking Superman

2. Motherfucking Sub-Zero

3. Motherfucking Superman and Sub-Zero kicking Dark Khan ass together
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 •09/21/2011 04:58 AM (UTC) •
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jpetrunak Wrote:
MK vs DC's biggest downfall was it was so broken.

I actually think if NRS did another MK vs DC using MK9's game engine, it would be a huge success.

I too was one of the millions ... ( and millions ) bitching and complaining that MK vs DC sucked because the lack of fatalities and mature content , but then MK9 came along and it really changed my whole perspective on things.

Sure the fatalities and stage fatalities are awesome, and the M rated story line was great, but after a month or so, all of that shit wares off, and what keeps you coming back is the game play. In fact, one of my biggest peeves online is when you play a series of matches with someone, and they insist on doing fatalities. Its like , really ? I've seen these a million times, I just want to play now.

MK vs DC's had some cool presentation style game play elements, but from a competitive perspective, they don't work. An MK vs DC 2 using the MK9 engine would be awesome though.


I agree with everything. I use to bitch about MkvsDC's fatals but I knew the affect would wear off. With MK9 I just don't care about them anymore. The only ones I do are the Stage ones and even those get old. The vast majority of my opponents will finish me with standing 1 or something else just to get it over with.

I think this franchise needs to start weening it's audience off of fatalities. It's things like this that label MK gimmicky and ultimately fatals don't add much to the experience. Once MK can be known for gameplay, atmosphere, and story it will continue to be a hit that won't need to resort to an outdated gimmick. The gameplay, atmosphere, and story is the reason it is my favorite franchise. The blood and the gore is merely frosting.
I don't really care if it was t raterd mk vs dc was not bad and alot better than mk9 so what if mk went t rater you think dc was gonna go m rated
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 •11/04/2011 03:47 PM (UTC) •
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ColdWindBlows Wrote:
The game sucked... Most of the dc characters used most of mk moves



I agree. You cant go off and cross an awesome game like MK with dudes wearing tights!!!!
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