Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 06:48 PM EST
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Li Mei was first created with the intention of it to be Mileena, but instead was turned into a new character. Even her name derives from Mileena's.

Source on this, please.


There's no source to that because it's NOT true. Li Mei may had been created/put into MKDA to fill Mileena's spot or whatever, but she was always her own character and Mileena was NEVER intended to be in MKDA.

Whereas Tanya, WAS Kitana early in MK4's development.


Use your sense of logic. Li Mei's alt outfit in MKDA looks like something Mileena would wear. Put a mask on it and voila, you got Mileena. They share a purple colour scheme, both have black hair and both uses sais.

Why make a totally new character that has so much in common with a former character design wise, if not because she was supposed to be Mileena in the first place? If the MK team really made Li Mei from scratch, they did a real bad job in doing so. Her MKDA appearance was less than original... I mean, copying from one of their own designs? I just don't buy it.
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That's strange 'cause I swear I've seen you get defensive and attack someone's character on how stale they were. But I still don't know about this 'fact' that Li Mei was originally going to be Mileena. And even if that was the case, she's clearly nothing like Mileena.

Plus the "Tanya is yellow too" argument is not even close to the same thing. You brought up the part about Li Mei, but Tanya has a similar case. So I was just trying to figure out why it's okay for to shoot down one and accept the other. Heck, even Havik was supposedly going to be Noob Saibot.

Me "attacking" a character because of their staleness has nothing to do with any of the users on this forum. Me stating an opinion about a character is because the character is in focus, not any user.
As for the fact part, I actually questioned it myself after reading through some posts on here, so did some digging and you're right, there's no official confirmation about Li Mei was intended to be Mileena.
My bad. I admit, I was wrong in calling it a fact.
That said, as I stated above, the similarities in design are rather questionable.
I still don't get why you and others think I am shooting down Li Mei for comparing her to Mileena.
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 06:57 PM EST
Voted Li Mei strictly for her mkd ending. Nice swerve.

Damn I enjoyed mkda and mkd's stories. What the hell is with the universe. We had a great story at the time, and a mediocre fighting game. Now we have a great fighting game and a mediocre story. Maybe mkx is where it will all align.

You work with what you got...not what you hope for.

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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 07:40 PM EST
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Ashrah because modesty

That's as good a reason as any, I must say.
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 08:03 PM EST
I liked Li Mei's moveset, but felt Ashrah was a better character.
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 08:06 PM EST
Ashrah was cool, but I can't get over her stupid hat.

I was in love with Li Mei's fighting styles and move set.

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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 08:15 PM EST
Jaded-Raven Wrote:Use your sense of logic. Li Mei's alt outfit in MKDA looks like something Mileena would wear. Put a mask on it and voila, you got Mileena. They share a purple colour scheme, both have black hair and both uses sais.

Why make a totally new character that has so much in common with a former character design wise, if not because she was supposed to be Mileena in the first place? If the MK team really made Li Mei from scratch, they did a real bad job in doing so. Her MKDA appearance was less than original... I mean, copying from one of their own designs? I just don't buy it.


Except Li Mei's alt costume was the single most revealing outfit in the series at the time, and Mileena/Kitana/Jade had wore nothing but leotards up to that date, so this "her costumes screamed Mileena" argument is BS. If anything, Mileena's skimpy style was inspired by Li Mei.

Hell, even Kitana was wearing purple in her alt costume, and was a leotard. Was Kitana originally intended to be Mileena in DA too?
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 08:32 PM EST
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Use your sense of logic. Li Mei's alt outfit in MKDA looks like something Mileena would wear. Put a mask on it and voila, you got Mileena. They share a purple colour scheme, both have black hair and both uses sais.

And they have nothing in common when it comes to special moves. Usually, when fighting game introduces clone character, they at least have something in common, with original. In case of Li Mei it's her weapon and color scheme. And nothing else.
Besides, argument about color scheme could be easily refuted. Li Mei was created more as a generic asian fighter, with asian theme going on. Hence the colours. Her name is "plum", so it is possible, that her outfit was inspired by colour of the berry.

Bottom line: I need an official source, saying that Li Mei was restyled Mileena. Until then it is nothing, but specualtion. And nothing else, no matter what kind of logic you apply.

Have a nice day.wink
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 08:53 PM EST
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Lei Mei for sure and yes I voted for her on the poll.
Lei Mei can and would take out all other MK females except for Sindel. Why? Because Sindel is the best-ever female in MK History!

I don't know about Lei Mei but I think Li Mei has a shot to beast Sindel.
This one was close one for me, but I chose Li Mei. But I do believe Ashrah should be in the sequel (if it is indeed a sequel) over Li Mei.


One scream from Sindel and Lei Mei or anyone for that fact would be finished, wouldn't you think?

As for Ashrah making it in before Lei Mei, is slim. Lei Mei was in Deadly Alliance and Deception as Ashy only debuted in MKD.
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/07/2014 10:16 PM EST
Jaded-Raven Wrote:

I still don't get why you and others think I am shooting down Li Mei for comparing her to Mileena.

It came across that way 'cause you stated you didn't get how people like Li Mei before you posted that part about Mileena. I get now that you don't like her because she's too similar to Mileena to you, but heck, Mortal Kombat started with rainbow ninjas and female 'ninjas'. The only thing that felt familiar with her and Mileena were her sais, other than that she's like a whole different character.


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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 12:00 AM EST
This was the toughest one for me yet because I love both and want to see the, in MKX! Went for Li Mei in the end.
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 12:59 AM EST
Wow this really is a close match
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 01:34 AM EST
I picked Ashrah
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 01:43 AM EST

Tanya - daughter to an Edenian ambassador. Traitor to her people. In another time and place, she handed the keys to her realm to the greatest evil it had ever known. Dairou - soldier turned mercenary. A former Seidan Guardsman. In another time and place, he surrendered to rage and betrayed the order of his realm. Two warriors whose lives were changed in an instant. Two warriors who must compete to determine one ultimate survivor. Choose their destiny!... FIGHT!


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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 02:10 AM EST
Tanya because she has more potential than Dairou. Also I want to see her in MKX :B
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 02:12 AM EST
This one's a close one for me.


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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 02:16 AM EST
This one is an easy one for me. I choose Tanya. I look forward to her likely MKX appearance.

I just feel like Dairou doesn't seem to fit that well into the MK universe.

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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 02:17 AM EST
Tanya all the way.

Never liked Dairou.
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06/08/2014 02:37 AM EST
I want Frost in this game soooooooooooooo bad!!! it's been years since she's been in a MK game she's only been in two of them(Deadly Alliance and Armageddon) she deserves a chance to be in this game! MY VOTE GOES TO FROST!! ^___^smile
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 03:28 AM EST
I vote tanya, Liked her gameplay in MK4 and MKD,

I just hope she doesn't go "Can I take your order?!?" in MKX

No need for lazy fatalities :P

as for Dairou, never tried him at all, doesn't seem that interesting to me.
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 03:55 AM EST
Tanya. Awesome gameplay in MK4 and hilarious screams when her bones would get broken, especially in the PC version of the game.

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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 04:32 AM EST
Tanya gets my vote
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 04:47 AM EST
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I want Frost in this game soooooooooooooo bad!!! it's been years since she's been in a MK game she's only been in two of them(Deadly Alliance and Armageddon) she deserves a chance to be in this game! MY VOTE GOES TO FROST!! ^___^smile


but she lost to Havik, not very happy at all.
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 04:49 AM EST
Dairou,


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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 04:50 AM EST
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Jaded-Raven Wrote:Use your sense of logic. Li Mei's alt outfit in MKDA looks like something Mileena would wear. Put a mask on it and voila, you got Mileena. They share a purple colour scheme, both have black hair and both uses sais.

Why make a totally new character that has so much in common with a former character design wise, if not because she was supposed to be Mileena in the first place? If the MK team really made Li Mei from scratch, they did a real bad job in doing so. Her MKDA appearance was less than original... I mean, copying from one of their own designs? I just don't buy it.


Except Li Mei's alt costume was the single most revealing outfit in the series at the time, and Mileena/Kitana/Jade had wore nothing but leotards up to that date, so this "her costumes screamed Mileena" argument is BS. If anything, Mileena's skimpy style was inspired by Li Mei.

Hell, even Kitana was wearing purple in her alt costume, and was a leotard. Was Kitana originally intended to be Mileena in DA too?



I believe that when they made Li Mei's alt outfit, it was supposed to be Mileena's main outfit at the time they created it. This is just theorycrafting though.

As for Kitana's purple outfit, no, I don't believe she was supposed to be Mileena, but more a way to make Kitana have a more regal look. That outfit is still my favourite for Kitana to date.

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Use your sense of logic. Li Mei's alt outfit in MKDA looks like something Mileena would wear. Put a mask on it and voila, you got Mileena. They share a purple colour scheme, both have black hair and both uses sais.

And they have nothing in common when it comes to special moves. Usually, when fighting game introduces clone character, they at least have something in common, with original. In case of Li Mei it's her weapon and color scheme. And nothing else.
Besides, argument about color scheme could be easily refuted. Li Mei was created more as a generic asian fighter, with asian theme going on. Hence the colours. Her name is "plum", so it is possible, that her outfit was inspired by colour of the berry.

Bottom line: I need an official source, saying that Li Mei was restyled Mileena. Until then it is nothing, but specualtion. And nothing else, no matter what kind of logic you apply.

Have a nice day.wink


Tanya doesn't have any moves that Kitana has, yet she was indeed intended to be Kitana at first in MK4, so that arguement is refuted.
As for Li Mei's name meaning "plum" to fit her colour scheme, that sounds more like something that was tagged on her character AFTER they decided to make her into a new character instead of Mileena.

fijikungfu Wrote:
I get now that you don't like her because she's too similar to Mileena to you


That's not why I don't like her. I never said that. I did say that she obviously looks like she was supposed to be Mileena, but I never said that's why I don't like her.

No, I don't like her, because she is a generic character. Another stereotype thrown into the mix, the Asian kung fu girl. I don't like her story or endings either.

...

Now that THAT's out of the way, I vote for Tanya, obviously! ^^
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RE: Whos Next? Supreme Mortal Kombat Champion Tournament 2014!
06/08/2014 07:00 AM EST
Tanya, no contest.