Best MK Characters Worst MK characters

Noob Saibot Movado
Shinnok Hsu Hso
Shang Tsung Blaze
Shao Kahn Mokap
Onaga Meat
Ermac Darrius
Smoke Bo rai Cho
Chameleon Rain (a ninja too far?)
Quan Chi Tanya
Liu Kang Jade
Kung Lao Sheeva
Scorpion
Sub Zero
Baraka

mkflegend: Scorpion's character was definitely about revenge in MKDA. In MKD, he actually had a different and worthwhile story. But then in MKA, it went back to revenge, with his ending leading up to MORE revenge.

About the honor thing, please quote something from what I've said to clear things up for me.

You're still not telling me what qualities would make Scorpion worthy of being the new leader. And besides, he would have to get the Menkyo Kaiden (tradition license) from his leader, otherwise, he'd be an illegitimate leader.

I don't see why his family and clan should even be bothered with. They should be left in his past, kind of like with Dairou's story. If Scorpion can't move on and actually grow as a character, how can his story be taken seriously?

Again, you fail to understand that Scorpion is a raging imbecile as he is blinded by anger, hatred, and vengeance, which is especially displayed when fighting, hence often losing. And again, Scorpion's MKA ending is a bad idea as the resurrection of his family and clan is sugarcoated and a cop-out. It's weak storytelling. And then for Quan Chi to kindnap Scorpion's son sets for revenge again. Shit like that is forced an a bad excuse to get Scorpion's story to continuousy be just about revenge. Yes, it makes sense for Scorpion being mad at Quan Chi and for wanting his son back. But you have to understand that type of story direction is the problem. It should be avoided in the first place.

I would rather go with Scorpion killing Quan Chi during Armageddon and moving on. I don't mean as leader of the Shirai Ryu either as that is redundant and is a title that he is simply not worthy of, due to being a fighter who is blinded by anger, hatred, and vengeance. If he's going to become leader of the Shirai Ryu, it has to be later and his story has to be built up in a way so that he is worthy of it, not being forced down our throats like in MKA.

As for not knowing who and what he's dealing with not mattering because he's undead, that's a pretty stupid and lousy excuse. He's not invincible nor is he the most powerful.

At the end of the day, I know you'll still disagree with me as I know you still won't understand.

I understand you completely, I just disagree about the character I'm not sure if you seem to understand my point of view on that as it seems you can't get past your point of view which honestly, will give you a tough time seeing anyone elses.

I'm sure you can, I've seen you understand everyones opinions in the Smallville thread this is no different.

Scorpion's story wasn't 100% about revenge in MK:DA, yes he was going after Quan-Chi however but there were bigger things for him. In MK:D as you said it wasn't about revenge, his story took a different turn because the elder gods forced him to do their bidding. We all know how that turned out.

In MKA, I see nothing more then reward and Quan-Chi taking part of it enraging Scorpion who at that point forgot about Quan-Chi and revenge and just wanted to be happy with his family, Quan- Chi's actions give Scorpion good reason to want him dead, I don't see 100% revenge factor here, I see his passion and love for saving his son. Afterall, he already lost his family once I don't blame him one bit honestly.

This thread has lost it's flavor, only our debate has kept it bumped pretty much

Best
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Sektor
Sareena
Ermac
Havik
Sub Zero
Reptile
Noob
Kitana
Mileena
Sonya
Shang Tsung
Raiden
Baraka
Cyrax
Kabal


Worst
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Scorpion
Chameleon
Kobra
Dairou
Mavado
Hsu Hao
Kira
Liu Kang
Moloch
Kai
Darrius

I'm not sure what bigger things you're talking about, but his story in MKDA seemed pretty clear and simple to me. He was after Quan Chi. That's pretty much it. Yes, he had obstacles in the form of Drahmin and Moloch, but his story is basically about going after Quan Chi. That's it. I don't see what else was in that story of his.

In MKD, the Elder Gods didn't force him to do anything. He made a deal with them, which didn't work out as he didn't do the job properly. He pretty much got what was coming to him, a half-ass resurrection for a half-ass job done. Now, I would've preferred it if the Elder Gods had simply made him have to do more tasks to get his reward, which yes, would seem like making him their puppet. However, the story of him making the deal with the Elder Gods is not him being forced by them.

If Scorpion is to have had reward for his story, it should be in the form of killing Quan Chi and eventually being reunited with his family, not having his family and clan resurrected and then having Quan Chi just appear out of nowhere and kidnap Scorpion's son. I'm not saying that his ending is that of 100% revenge factor, but it certainly leads up to more revenge. And because of how much revenge has been the theme of Scorpion's storyline, for his story to still be about him trying to get revenge shows the lack of growth in his character.

Look at other characters, such as Kenshi and Dairou. Their stories do not drag with the theme of revenge despite having elements of revenge in their overall stories. There are far better directions that could be taken with Scorpion's storyline than the path that his MKA ending would take. Having his family and clan resurrected is like having King Jerrod of the Original Kung Lao brought back to life. It just doesn't work well.

Overall, I still feel that Scorpion has been degraded into nothing more than a cheap gimmick who once had value to him.

As for the thread itself, the problem here lies within some simply choosing who their favorites and least favorites are. It would be nice to see people give at least some brief explanations behind their opinions. If it's just going to be about listing who each person's favorite and least favorite characters are, there won't be all that much life to the thread itself.

He more or less was forced or might as well have been as they hinted because the make it sound like it was a "make a deal with the Elder Gods" or be destroyed, the honest vibe I got. (not that that's possible because he's Scorpion lol) he never dies...

Kenshi and Dairou were also not murdered, torchered in hell or had their family/clan killed either. And he's good also so once he met Ermac, Sub etc he pretty much fell perfectly into the Earths warriors(good guys gig)

Kenshi wanted revenge on Shang for Shang dooping him in MK:DA. Kenshi is also a very new character compared to Scorpion.


Same with Dairou, but he's mainly a neutral dude. Yeah he wanted revenge for a while there but that changed real fast. I liked his MKA ending as he turns good more or less.

Well, the lack of his storyline direction in MKA that's your opinion. In mine it could have been better personally but it's not horrible, there's MUCH worse endings in MKA by far then Scorpion's lol. Look at Smokes, Kenshi's, Quan-Chi's...to name a few off hand.

I do like the irony though in Quan's ending with what Argus/Elder Gods do to him and such lol.

Scorpion I agree in MKA isn't about 100% revenge but has a little bit, I just feel it's for good reason. His son gets kidnapped by Quan-Chi completely out of the blue and for what reason? Again, if I were you my beef would be more with Quan-Chi's reason, not scorpion.

At this point, Scorpion with his clan and family getting resurrected has probably forgot about Quan-Chi all together only for him to go out of his way to kidnap Scorpion's son just to piss off scorpion or get his revenge from what Scorpion did to him in MK4 with the netherrealm.

Scorpion's power doesn't exceed that of the Elder Gods', therefore they can fuck him over.



Actually, with Kenshi, the souls of his ancestors were stolen from Shang Tsung, and he was blinded and left for dead. Dairou's family was killed by an assassin hired by Darrius. Dairou got his revenge by killing the assassin.



And yet Kenshi's story got out of revenge, while Scorpion, after so many games, hasn't, save for his MKD story.



You're confusing his ending for his actual game story. His story in MKA IS about revenge. Sure, the Elder Gods screwed him over, but that's because he didn't do his fucking job. And yet he takes his anger out on Taven and Daegon, who have nothing to do with any of that.

And again, I'm not saying that Scorpion wanting to get his son back is not reasonable. The point I'm making is going in the story direction of his MKA ending, in which his family and clan are resurrected and with Quan Chi kidnapping Scorpion's son is a bad idea, for reasons that I have explained several times.

Scorpion needs to put his family behind him and move on just like Dairou has. For part of Scorpion's MKA ending to become canon does not show good progression at all. Yes, yes, I know that in the ending, it makes sense that he wants his son back. But do we really need another revenge story? Is that what you want with Scorpion, for his stories to just be about revenge and for him to never grow as a character? Are you just satisfied as him being a 1-dimensional gimmicky character?

I'm certainly not. I'm someone who wants Scorpion to wisen up and take a much better direction in his story so that he becomes a character worth caring about. Yeah, you say you know where I'm coming from yet you still want Scorpion's story to be taken in a direction that involves more revenge, regardless if that story direction also involves him trying to get his son back. I mean, why the hell would we need his family to come back? That's like the Original Kung Lao or King Jerrod to return. It's not needed and doesn't do anything positive for the story.

Like I said, Scorpion needs to move on and be revamped in several aspects to at least be decent.

Scorpion shouldn't move on but I agree he needs another storyline. Before MKDA, Sub-Zero was kinda hunted down by his past but it's eventually behind him now. The same should happen with Scorpion. I hope he gets the upper hand against Quan Chi in MKA. Thanks to that, his past won't torment him anymore and he'll get a brand new storyline.

BEST:
Baraka
Scorpion (every one knows)
liu kang (DUH)
kung lao
reptile
sub zero
jade
kitana
mileena
kabal
sonya
jax worst:bo rai cho (fat retard)
darrius(whats the point of him REALLY) kira,kobra
kai (NO POINT OF HIM!)

Best:

Smoke -The most awesome character evah-
Ermac -He's just friggin awesome-
Sub-Zero -The most classic character-

Worst:

Hsu Hao -he's da worst-
Stryker -Meh, cheesy-
Mokap -Should he even be a character? srsly-

I'm not confusing his storyline with his character ending in MKA, it's apart of his storyline therefore it's obviously apart if Scorpion's character lol. The question is will MKA be canon?

MKA ending isn't about revenge, I don't see it. It's about rescuing his son from Quan-Chi. Again man, he wanted no part of Quan-Chi at his MKD ending and MKA storyline. It was quan-chi who hunted him down, he's the one who wanted revenge.

BTW, I never said Scorpion's powers surpass the Elder Gods, I just said he never dies despite what happens to him lol. Then again he's undead so that would make perfect sense since he's afterall...dead already

Scorpion is not Dairou, as I said earlier Dairou wasn't in hell and didn't go thru nearly the same things Scorpion went thru. I'm not saying Dairou's past was a joy, but it's nothing compared to scorpion's. I don't want Scorpion to be like Dairou, afterall the both of them are more neutral none the less until MKA(should MKA Dairou's story be canon he's more good now)

The konquest was a small run about, it means nothing. They added a lot of other side fights also like Quan-Chi sending his undead bitches after Taven etc, etc. There's a lot of characters that engaged Taven, Daegon so you get the point.

Sub -Zero attacks Taven also, he threatens him initially friend or foe? Yet Taven did nothing to threaten Sub? Only reason why he wasn't as aggressive as Scorpion was because he's a "good" guy...still it wasn't exactly a warm welcome for Taven.

Kenshi's storyline yes that's correct, that's what I said man lol. I just didn't feel like going into detail with the souls, shang stung's powers and that whole ordeal blinding kenshi. Still, none the less Kenshi was pissed and wanted his own revenge on Shang for doing so. That's what I'm saying man.

Scorpion proves his honor, love and has a heart because of his family. The clan thing is a power gig no doubt like the others Sektor, Sub, Raiden etc whoever else has a group to back them up. It gives them power regardless of which side they're for.

Scorpion's story can easily go a different route, he can concentrate on his wife & clan while his clan takes care of Quan-Chi. Perhaps he'll create an alliance with the good guys which IMO would be interesting.

There's no point for Scorpion to go all evil with his new resurrected clan.


Ok, well I've got enough responces good job peeps and it's got a bit off topic so this thread can be closed now. : )

Closed at Author's request.


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